Make retreads illegal !!!! - Page 8

CamaroSkooter · 07-14-2011, 04:22 PM

I bet more truckers than that check their tire pressures at regular intervals. With gas prices up, truckers look for every way possible to reduce their gas bill. Properly inflated tires are the best way to make your vehicle more fuel efficient.

formare · 07-16-2011, 08:17 PM

I drove 135 miles one way on i65 earlier today. My passenger took a video of one section of road that had no less than 6 full sized retreads in and on the highway. I'm guessing the video is less than 2 minutes; so just over 2 miles. I'll post it up as soon as I figure out how to get it from her phone.

I don't think any visible length of the roadside was free from debris ( granted small chunks of rubber) and full size retreads could be seen on a regular basis. Fortunately, only one of these was actually in the road - I managed to drive around it.

I can't be the only one seeing these ?

CamaroSkooter · 07-16-2011, 09:28 PM

Yes, given the sheer volume of truck traffic that travels on the highways in this country, I am not surprised that there is a substantial amount of debris due to tire failures.

But your entire argument hinges on how deadly retread failures are. Did you see any cars on the side of the road with decapitated drivers in them during your trip?

formare · 07-16-2011, 09:33 PM

Nope - not this trip. But if you want blood and guts in a story read a few posts up....

My entire argument should be read to rest on making the highways safe once more. I find it hard to believe a viable counterpoint can rest on the fact that we should just drive around these hazards and suck it up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

Yes, given the sheer volume of truck traffic that travels on the highways in this country, I am not surprised that there is a substantial amount of debris due to tire failures.

But your entire argument hinges on how deadly retread failures are. Did you see any cars on the side of the road with decapitated drivers in them during your trip?

CamaroSkooter · 07-16-2011, 09:49 PM

If your end goal is for the highways to be free of debris forever, then banning retreads is hardly the answer.

More research to design a better tire compound would be a good place to start

formare · 07-16-2011, 09:51 PM

Actually that's not a bad idea. Hmmmmmmm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroSkooter

If your end goal is for the highways to be free of debris forever, then banning retreads is hardly the answer.

More research to design a better tire compound would be a good place to start

Mr Twisty · 07-16-2011, 10:05 PM

When outside temps are high you see more gators on the roadway... most likely what you saw was one retread with a debris field over a large area. The other pieces very well could have been there for a while, states don't go out on a daily basis and pick up debris.

Once fall comes around, watch them all but disappear.

formare · 07-16-2011, 10:14 PM

Could be - it would have been a very very lrge diameter tire though. These things were easily 5 feet long if anything....

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

When outside temps are high you see more gators on the roadway... most likely what you saw was one retread with a debris field over a large area. The other pieces very well could have been there for a while, states don't go out on a daily basis and pick up debris.

Once fall comes around, watch them all but disappear.

Mr Twisty · 07-16-2011, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by formare

Could be - it would have been a very very lrge diameter tire though. These things were easily 5 feet long if anything....

Truck tread probably is 10 ft long or better, it's also hard to judge size while moving... Example: how long would you say the center divider stripes are on an interstate? 4 feet? 6 feet? 8 FEET?

formare · 07-16-2011, 10:27 PM

excellent point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Truck tread probably is 10 ft long or better, it's also hard to judge size while moving... Example: how long would you say the center divider stripes are on an interstate? 4 feet? 6 feet? 8 FEET?

The Stig · 07-16-2011, 10:54 PM

Circumference of a circle is 2*pi*r. So with our tires (and I'm rounding pi to 3.00) we've got 60" circumference. That's 5 feet. I've seen trunk tires that had to be at least 36-40" so 8-10 feet of retread isn't asking that much.

Mr Twisty · 07-17-2011, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stieger

Circumference of a circle is 2*pi*r. So with our tires (and I'm rounding pi to 3.00) we've got 60" circumference. That's 5 feet. I've seen trunk tires that had to be at least 36-40" so 8-10 feet of retread isn't asking that much.

275 75 22.5 is ~36" so you're pretty close.

trooper182 · 07-17-2011, 09:06 PM

Anybody ever see the police dash cam of that state trooper that was doing a traffic stop and a retread blows? Trooper is walking up to the drivers side just as a semi is passing and the trailer blows a tire. Tire flys and hits the trooper breaking his collar bone and some other bones. What are the odds a tire would blow at that exact moment.

The Stig · 07-17-2011, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trooper182

Anybody ever see the police dash cam of that state trooper that was doing a traffic stop and a retread blows? Trooper is walking up to the drivers side just as a semi is passing and the trailer blows a tire. Tire flys and hits the trooper breaking his collar bone and some other bones. What are the odds a tire would blow at that exact moment.

The all important question though: did it decapitate him?

07-14-2011, 04:22 PM	#99
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	I bet more truckers than that check their tire pressures at regular intervals. With gas prices up, truckers look for every way possible to reduce their gas bill. Properly inflated tires are the best way to make your vehicle more fuel efficient. __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

07-16-2011, 08:17 PM	#100
formare The Milano Drives: 2017 Firefly ShipWorks Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicagoland (Crown Point, IN) Posts: 1,877 View My Garage	I drove 135 miles one way on i65 earlier today. My passenger took a video of one section of road that had no less than 6 full sized retreads in and on the highway. I'm guessing the video is less than 2 minutes; so just over 2 miles. I'll post it up as soon as I figure out how to get it from her phone. I don't think any visible length of the roadside was free from debris ( granted small chunks of rubber) and full size retreads could be seen on a regular basis. Fortunately, only one of these was actually in the road - I managed to drive around it. I can't be the only one seeing these ? __________________ My first Love. She was called "Miss Carriage" (still cry when I think about her) 383, Muncie 4 speed, custom linkage mated to hurst short throw shifter.

07-16-2011, 09:28 PM	#101
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	Yes, given the sheer volume of truck traffic that travels on the highways in this country, I am not surprised that there is a substantial amount of debris due to tire failures. But your entire argument hinges on how deadly retread failures are. Did you see any cars on the side of the road with decapitated drivers in them during your trip? __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

07-16-2011, 09:49 PM	#103
CamaroSkooter Retarded One-Legged Owl Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 9,745	If your end goal is for the highways to be free of debris forever, then banning retreads is hardly the answer. More research to design a better tire compound would be a good place to start __________________ My VIN = 2G1FK1EJ9A9105017 Build Date: 04-23-2009 according to: http://www.compnine.com/vid.php

07-16-2011, 10:05 PM	#105
Mr Twisty Drives: the 2nd amendment home Join Date: May 2008 Location: OK Posts: 14,763	When outside temps are high you see more gators on the roadway... most likely what you saw was one retread with a debris field over a large area. The other pieces very well could have been there for a while, states don't go out on a daily basis and pick up debris. Once fall comes around, watch them all but disappear. __________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin lib·er·ty /ˈlibərdē/ noun 1. the state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions imposed by authority on one's way of life, behavior, or political views

07-16-2011, 10:54 PM	#109
The Stig knows 2 facts about ducks Drives: ...and they're both wrong Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The HMS Invincible Posts: 25,072 View My Garage	Circumference of a circle is 2pir. So with our tires (and I'm rounding pi to 3.00) we've got 60" circumference. That's 5 feet. I've seen trunk tires that had to be at least 36-40" so 8-10 feet of retread isn't asking that much. __________________

07-17-2011, 09:06 PM	#111
trooper182 Drives: 2011 Camaro 1LT yellow non RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Louisiana Posts: 691	Anybody ever see the police dash cam of that state trooper that was doing a traffic stop and a retread blows? Trooper is walking up to the drivers side just as a semi is passing and the trailer blows a tire. Tire flys and hits the trooper breaking his collar bone and some other bones. What are the odds a tire would blow at that exact moment. __________________ Staff Sergeant U.S. Army 13B Gun Bunny. 2011 Camaro 1LT A6 Mods: Pypes bomb V8 exhaust, Magnaflow x-pipe, resonator delete, Roto-Fab cold air intake, Vmax Black Ice-olator, Elite Engineering catch can, painted engine cover and fuse box cover, 3dCarbon Front Fender Vents, Street Scene Front Splitter, ZL1 Side Rockers, Anvil Notch Rear Spoiler, interior/engine bay LED lights, two JL Audio W3's 10" and 1000w kenwood amp

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