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Old 07-14-2011, 12:07 PM   #15
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First off, I do hope your GF is OK. Her bites don't look too deep, but as others have said. Clean them out, wrap them up and be sure to check that your GF is up to date on her tetanus shots and such, as well as your pups being up to date on their shots as well.

So stupid question here, if you have the remote training collars why didn't your GF use them? I can understand if it was just her being in the moment and not thinking about it, heck I know I've done that a few times. Not with dogs, but tunnel vision is something everyone can fall victim to.
She takes them off the dogs at night to recharge them and hadnt put them back on yet. Everyone is up to date on shots and I can wrap a good bandage and clean wounds pretty well. thanks for the concern.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:09 PM   #16
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Seriously think about what if it would have been worse? They are pit bulls and that breed have killed people, they have the strength. I won't go on about that breed it will just start a fire storm, but you should really think about this.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:16 PM   #17
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Seriously think about what if it would have been worse? They are pit bulls and that breed have killed people, they have the strength. I won't go on about that breed it will just start a fire storm, but you should really think about this.
Did you even read my post? The dogs did not go after her, she put her hand in the middle of them while they were fighting? I also said not to post uninformed opinions... and NO, I had a friend who or I heard that... doesnt count as being informed
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:21 PM   #18
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Well first rule is you never try and break up a dog fight with your bare hands, you get a stick, use the hose, toss a chair... never use any part of your body as your are now part of the fight.

Its like jumping into save a drowning person, they will just drag you under.


she hopfuly will be ok and learned a good lesson, be careful if you tell a doc it was done by a dog espically a pit. most places require large insurance policys on those types of dogs. And or have a put down law if they ever bite anyone.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:23 PM   #19
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I am not sure about the LAWS in your state, BUT I had my own dog nip me and broke the skin because he had been injured ( Golden Retreiver) Anyway when I took him to the Vet for his injuries the VEt nticed the bite and told me I had 2 Option. NEITHER I liked at all. 1 was to put the dog down and have him tested for rabies, if you are a dog person you know their is only 1 way to check for this.

The other was to quarantine the dog and put ME on shots, again if you know how they give rabies shots it is not a real happy thought.

Unfortunately his injuries would not allow him to be saved ( He was shot) and they just had him tested, EVEN though I had all the shots required by law.

OP I am sorry for the bites and other injuries. Keep a good check on them. Something triggered the dogs to act like this, gotta find out what that was or either get rid of one of them. NEXT time it might not be a hand.

I would definitely look into Professional Dog training, might be expensive but worth it.

I know my homeowners insurance has a clause in it about what they consider viscious dogs. Might want to check that also.

Hope it all gets worked out for you and your girl is ok.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:35 PM   #20
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I am not sure about the LAWS in your state, BUT I had my own dog nip me and broke the skin because he had been injured ( Golden Retreiver) Anyway when I took him to the Vet for his injuries the VEt nticed the bite and told me I had 2 Option. NEITHER I liked at all. 1 was to put the dog down and have him tested for rabies, if you are a dog person you know their is only 1 way to check for this.

The other was to quarantine the dog and put ME on shots, again if you know how they give rabies shots it is not a real happy thought.

Unfortunately his injuries would not allow him to be saved ( He was shot) and they just had him tested, EVEN though I had all the shots required by law.

OP I am sorry for the bites and other injuries. Keep a good check on them. Something triggered the dogs to act like this, gotta find out what that was or either get rid of one of them. NEXT time it might not be a hand.

I would definitely look into Professional Dog training, might be expensive but worth it.

I know my homeowners insurance has a clause in it about what they consider viscious dogs. Might want to check that also.

Hope it all gets worked out for you and your girl is ok.

I definately appreciate the concern. And my gf definately learned her lesson. And the animal control/doctor thing has been taken care of so I dont have to worry about that. I think my gf was more worried about the dogs than herself, even after she had been bitten.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:52 PM   #21
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I definately appreciate the concern. And my gf definately learned her lesson. And the animal control/doctor thing has been taken care of so I dont have to worry about that. I think my gf was more worried about the dogs than herself, even after she had been bitten.
Dog lovers usually are, LOL

It is definitely a frightening experience. ANY dog can turn and bite the hand that feeds them.

I work in Law Enforcement and I am always leary of the Drug/Attack dogs, even though they are highly trained they are still animals and have a brain of their own.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:11 PM   #22
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Dog lovers usually are, LOL

It is definitely a frightening experience. ANY dog can turn and bite the hand that feeds them.

I work in Law Enforcement and I am always leary of the Drug/Attack dogs, even though they are highly trained they are still animals and have a brain of their own.

I hear ya. Im stationed at Lackland right now where they have the nationally known K-9 training prgram. I go by the site and watch the dogs and the training...HOLY CRAP! All I know is, if your running from the police and you hear a dog you better put your head petween your legs and kiss your ass goodbye because they WILL get you and then you can spend the rest of time it takes for the officers to catch up crying/praying for it to end.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:18 PM   #24
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I was like WTF?! and then I LOL'ed.
If anyoneis bored enough to read my post I figure you might as well take a look at this site and see some of the good the pit bulls do. Granted these things arent breed specific and all dogs are capable of these things.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:31 PM   #25
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I have owned and bred pitbulls for 20 years at one point I owned 9 adult pitbulls and bred and sold over 200 pups. I would think I have plenty of real experience in the breed. what you have experienced with your 2 dogs is so typical of the breed. at some point they will challenge each other and once a fight ensues it is on like donkey kong and it will get ugly within a minute. your gf was inexperienced in how to handle this and I would be willing to bet you were not ready either. unfortunately your probably going to now have to seperate the 2 dogs or part with one of them or plan on this happening again. when i sold these dogs i always said (1) pitbull will be the best dog you ever had (2) pitbulls is like playing russian roulette. unless you have one really submissive dog or 2 submissive dogs your going to have a fight. any pitbull owner should have breaking sticks in the house and in a place where they can be accessed when you are in panic mode. breaking sticks typically are made out of axe handles and filed to a wedge shape where you can work it into the back of the dogs molars then turn it to open the mouth up and prevent them from rebiting again. if your 2 dogs are engaged you will want to leash one of them or both and pull them apart then work them open with the sticks and immediately seperate the 2 dogs by means of cages or rooms because they will get together again. you are welcome to PM me and I will even speak with you over the phone if you would like to know more about my experiances with this stuff..... I love the breed and still have one chocolate red nose who is the biggest baby in the world but she did almost kill my min pin about 6 months ago.
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Dog trainer here: When 2 dogs fight your best bet it to figure out who is the "aggressor" and hold that dogs' tail to give the other one a chance to get away. Never try to get between them! In the above scenario, I would have taken a hold of the female's tail to let the male get away. When you hold their rear legs or tail as described, the dog is still focused on the other dog and is less likely to bite you. Hands off procedure, a deck chair between them, not your hands! Or the hose. Or an air horn.
Why were they fighting? Possibly over a toy or chewie, possibly a dog outside the fence got them excited and they took it out on each other? Or, he wouldn't quit bugging her and she took him to task. Will he go there again? He's male. Most likely. If it becomes a regular thing, I'd rehome one or the other. Some dogs just do better as "only dogs".
The dog on top pic looks to be part boxer. Is that the male? They are a more high energy dog than a pit, and they have poor social skills with other dogs quite often.
Shock collars? No wonder they're frustrated! Are those bark collars, UG fence collars or some sort of training collars? Sounds like you need to find a good trainer who uses positive reinforcement training to teach you and your girl how to be better pet parents so you can lose the shock collars.
Dog training isn't always about the dog, it's about the signals we send when dealing with them. Learn how to understand the dog, you'll have a happier relationship all the way around.
If she goes to a hospital, they will require the dog to go into quarantine and it will not go well for the dog because it's a "bully" breed. Clean those wounds well!
I agree a good dog trainer does wonders. We adopted a dog who had...has social issues that we found out about when he was about 6 mos. We have spent lots of $$$ to learn how to handle the dog and people around the dog. He is not a mean dog but he is a fearful dog and reacts...hence the label reactive so it is my job as his mommy to prevent him from reacting. We ran into a few trainers that didn't use the reward training theory and walked away.... It takes time but with the right human training he does well meeting new people that will work with me to make him comfortable and not react and he is their lifelong buddy. He is a dog and knowing his behavior I would never completely trust him around kids...mine are grown ...but he knows two under 8 who he loves to play with but I keep a watchful eye non the less. Dogs are a whole other story and no need stressing him or me out with socializing with other dogs. We attend agility classes with other dogs where there is strutcture and I can control his exposure to the other dogs and I let the other dog owners know he most likely won't want their dog in his face.

We also had two shepherds previously and they were brothers. We did have the same problem with them wanting to prove dominance...that did go away when they were fixed...they were both males though.

Trainers are awesome and i've learned alot about dogs and how they think. Dog whispere and also it's me or the dog on Animal planet are great shows to learn some techniques for sure.
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I agree a good dog trainer does wonders. We adopted a dog who had...has social issues that we found out about when he was about 6 mos. We have spent lots of $$$ to learn how to handle the dog and people around the dog. He is not a mean dog but he is a fearful dog and reacts...hence the label reactive so it is my job as his mommy to prevent him from reacting. We ran into a few trainers that didn't use the reward training theory and walked away.... It takes time but with the right human training he does well meeting new people that will work with me to make him comfortable and not react and he is their lifelong buddy. He is a dog and knowing his behavior I would never completely trust him around kids...mine are grown ...but he knows two under 8 who he loves to play with but I keep a watchful eye non the less. Dogs are a whole other story and no need stressing him or me out with socializing with other dogs. We attend agility classes with other dogs where there is strutcture and I can control his exposure to the other dogs and I let the other dog owners know he most likely won't want their dog in his face.

We also had two shepherds previously and they were brothers. We did have the same problem with them wanting to prove dominance...that did go away when they were fixed...they were both males though.

Trainers are awesome and i've learned alot about dogs and how they think. Dog whispere and also it's me or the dog on Animal planet are great shows to learn some techniques for sure.
The female is definately the dominant one of the two, but Im just guessing enough was enough that day? From what my girlfriend said, it sounds like the female wouldnt stop even after she seperated them, the female kept coming back. The male is significantly larger than the female but is definately dominated... pretty much like any human relationship. The male isnt fixed, but the female is. Im just waiting so I can take some leave and get the male done. Before and after the fight they play together, share food/water, and even sleep on each other all day. Its like the fight never happened. But Im keeping an eye on them because the incident just happened.
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