Why wont Chevy bring back the Chevelle

scottw · 07-03-2011, 09:05 AM

Let me first start out by saying I love my Camaro. Wouldnt it be awesome if Chevy would bring back the Chevelle with a retro styling like Dodge did with the Challenger? I know it would never happen but wouldnt that be cool?

Apex Paul · 07-03-2011, 09:09 AM

I would like to see it. I don't see how more muscle cars could be a bad thing.

Bad70supreme · 07-03-2011, 09:13 AM

I hope they dont, because if it turned out as good as the camaro... I would be forced to sell it and by a new chevelle! 454 LS engine

fastball · 07-03-2011, 09:13 AM

Due to CAFE, too many muscle cars IS a bad thing. If the current talk in the BHO administration comes true, the CAFE standard for 2036 will be 56 MPG!!!!!! Which will even put the Camaro at risk.

scottw · 07-03-2011, 09:15 AM

Just so they dont bring it back like the Charger (4 Door or front wheel drive, Yuck). Basically a larger version of the camaro but with a retro 1970 design with a big block in it!

Apex Paul · 07-03-2011, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

I hope they dont, because if it turned out as good as the camaro... I would be forced to sell it and by a new chevelle! 454 LS engine

What you need... is a two car garage!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastball

Due to CAFE, too many muscle cars IS a bad thing. If the current talk in the BHO administration comes true, the CAFE standard for 2036 will be 56 MPG!!!!!! Which will even put the Camaro at risk.

That is a valid point. Hopefully the manufacturers are working on technologies that will improve economy across the classes of vehicles as well as continuing to push current technologies that get improved mileage (Volt, for example) so that we can have a few cars that are good for more "spirited" driving.

PETRA · 07-03-2011, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

I hope they dont, because if it turned out as good as the camaro... I would be forced to sell it and by a new chevelle! 454 LS engine

Or moonlight so I could have both!

Only problem then would be trying to decide which one to take for a spin....

heRS · 07-03-2011, 09:32 AM

I would love to see chevelle come back and do the mid-size right - make a 4 door with back doors that open like the RX8, no exterior handles. Then Charger would have competition. I still can't believe they put the wing and hoodscoop on a truck (GAYtona) and 4 doors on the Charger. What Gomer thought that would be cool?

FenwickHockey65 · 07-03-2011, 09:34 AM

Closest thing you'll ever get is a rebadged Commodore. Which you'll have to wait for.

Angelsilhouette · 07-03-2011, 10:00 AM

The reason they don't bring it back is the same reason they made the Charger a 4 door "I wanted a muscle car, but my wife wouldn't let me, so I had to get this."

The economy will not support a single car company releasing multiple types of the same type of car, the car companies do not see it as a winning financial proposition in the USA. Even Volkswagen has declined to sell the much better looking Scirocco alongside their Golf because they are both hot hatchbacks and one would poach sales from the other.

Now this might seem as silly as me opening a lemonade stand and refusing to sell fruit punch because it would steal sales from my lemonade. After all, the money is still going into my pocket, either way. The problem is: if my customer base is my street, and there are only so many people in my street, and I want to ensure that I get the most profit, then I have to halve my supply for both the lemonade and the fruit punch. If I don't, then I'm left with extra supplies for which I've paid after everyone's had their fill.

So what? Well say you have 40k Camaro customers now. Now say you decide to produce the Camaro and the Chevelle and to try to keep the profits even, you halve the production of Camaros to 20k and make 20k Chevelles. If, of those 40k Camaro customers 17k go to Chevelle, you have 3k Camaro customers left in the lurch because too few have been produced. They may buy a Chevelle, but they may also buy a Mustang or Challenger. You also have 3k Chevelles collecting dust, and that's wasted money that will have to be price reduced at some point.

50 years ago, this wasn't a huge deal. A car company would have several of the same vehicle with different bodies and interiors without worrying because the market was good and people were buying.

rarebird · 07-03-2011, 10:17 AM

shortly before the camaro concept it was a thought.. the Chevelle was going to be on the (then new) GTO format..

I had pics of it tucked away years ago but couldnt find them.. done a search and some on this forum..

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=25

StangKiller-SS · 07-03-2011, 10:18 AM

The only place a Chevelle would have is on a platform like the Charger. Mid size rear drive 4-door. I believe the Chevelle name is dead for good, GM would also probably opt for the Monte Carlo name plate first.

OHIOSS · 07-03-2011, 10:23 AM

Never say never, I seen this prototype drawing for a new Chevelle. Looks like someone is thinking about it for sure.

Russ

Kahdir · 07-03-2011, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Closest thing you'll ever get is a rebadged Commodore. Which you'll have to wait for.

http://www.criswellchevrolet.com/New...oryId=40755317

07-03-2011, 09:05 AM	#1
scottw Drives: 2011 SGM Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Blue Knob, PA Posts: 283 View My Garage	Why wont Chevy bring back the Chevelle Let me first start out by saying I love my Camaro. Wouldnt it be awesome if Chevy would bring back the Chevelle with a retro styling like Dodge did with the Challenger? I know it would never happen but wouldnt that be cool? __________________

07-03-2011, 09:13 AM	#3
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	I hope they dont, because if it turned out as good as the camaro... I would be forced to sell it and by a new chevelle! 454 LS engine __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

07-03-2011, 09:15 AM	#5
scottw Drives: 2011 SGM Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Blue Knob, PA Posts: 283 View My Garage	Just so they dont bring it back like the Charger (4 Door or front wheel drive, Yuck). Basically a larger version of the camaro but with a retro 1970 design with a big block in it! __________________

07-03-2011, 09:32 AM	#8
heRS Raised by Wolves Drives: IBM 2010 2LT RS M6 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 5,981 View My Garage	I would love to see chevelle come back and do the mid-size right - make a 4 door with back doors that open like the RX8, no exterior handles. Then Charger would have competition. I still can't believe they put the wing and hoodscoop on a truck (GAYtona) and 4 doors on the Charger. What Gomer thought that would be cool? __________________ Tori click the sig pic to view my build thread

07-03-2011, 09:34 AM	#9
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	Closest thing you'll ever get is a rebadged Commodore. Which you'll have to wait for. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

07-03-2011, 09:09 AM	#2
Apex Paul Drives: Wagon Queen Family Truckster Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 1,476	I would like to see it. I don't see how more muscle cars could be a bad thing.

07-03-2011, 09:13 AM	#4
fastball Banned Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 4,361	Due to CAFE, too many muscle cars IS a bad thing. If the current talk in the BHO administration comes true, the CAFE standard for 2036 will be 56 MPG!!!!!! Which will even put the Camaro at risk.

07-03-2011, 10:00 AM	#10
Angelsilhouette Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT RS, Red Jewel Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: LA (Lower AlaBAMa) Posts: 588 View My Garage	The reason they don't bring it back is the same reason they made the Charger a 4 door "I wanted a muscle car, but my wife wouldn't let me, so I had to get this." The economy will not support a single car company releasing multiple types of the same type of car, the car companies do not see it as a winning financial proposition in the USA. Even Volkswagen has declined to sell the much better looking Scirocco alongside their Golf because they are both hot hatchbacks and one would poach sales from the other. Now this might seem as silly as me opening a lemonade stand and refusing to sell fruit punch because it would steal sales from my lemonade. After all, the money is still going into my pocket, either way. The problem is: if my customer base is my street, and there are only so many people in my street, and I want to ensure that I get the most profit, then I have to halve my supply for both the lemonade and the fruit punch. If I don't, then I'm left with extra supplies for which I've paid after everyone's had their fill. So what? Well say you have 40k Camaro customers now. Now say you decide to produce the Camaro and the Chevelle and to try to keep the profits even, you halve the production of Camaros to 20k and make 20k Chevelles. If, of those 40k Camaro customers 17k go to Chevelle, you have 3k Camaro customers left in the lurch because too few have been produced. They may buy a Chevelle, but they may also buy a Mustang or Challenger. You also have 3k Chevelles collecting dust, and that's wasted money that will have to be price reduced at some point. 50 years ago, this wasn't a huge deal. A car company would have several of the same vehicle with different bodies and interiors without worrying because the market was good and people were buying. __________________ Still not quite done.

07-03-2011, 10:17 AM	#11
rarebird Drives: 2010 Join Date: May 2010 Location: nc Posts: 154 View My Garage	shortly before the camaro concept it was a thought.. the Chevelle was going to be on the (then new) GTO format.. I had pics of it tucked away years ago but couldnt find them.. done a search and some on this forum.. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=25

07-03-2011, 10:18 AM	#12
StangKiller-SS Drives: GM products Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,621	The only place a Chevelle would have is on a platform like the Charger. Mid size rear drive 4-door. I believe the Chevelle name is dead for good, GM would also probably opt for the Monte Carlo name plate first.

07-03-2011, 10:23 AM	#13
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	Never say never, I seen this prototype drawing for a new Chevelle. Looks like someone is thinking about it for sure. Russ Attached Images

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