Video: Lutz dishes dirt on GM in latest Autoline Detroit

*DGthe3* · 06-19-2011, 04:36 PM

Cars vs Beans

What sounds like a lawsuit working its way through the U.S. court system is in reality the epic struggle that plagued the American auto industry the last four decades.

And Bob Lutz is the auto executive who has seen it all. Over his nearly 50 years on the inside, he ran BMW, Ford, Chrysler and GM. Now that he’s retired and on the outside he’s pointing out problems with the industry. In his latest book – Car Guys Versus Bean Counters – he spotlights those, he believes, who have hurt the industry the most. And you don’t need an MBA to figure out who he means.

This week the man known as “Maximum Bob” joins John McElroy on Autoline along with panelists Csaba Csere and Peter De Lorenzo to discuss his book and the industry he devoted his life to.

You can watch him on autoline afterhours from a few months ago here

TJ91 · 06-21-2011, 01:45 AM

hes such a douche

Sawyer · 06-21-2011, 07:38 AM

"All Chevrolet vehicles were required to have five-spoke aluminum wheels and a chrome band up front, as part of the Bowtie brand's overall image.
Pontiac was required to utilize "see-through" headrests, despite the fact that they cost more to produce while offering no consumer value.
All Buicks required a sweep spear in the exterior design language.
Cadillac considered building a 550-horsepower supercharged Escalade.
Saturn was working on a seven-passenger Vue.
Many of the non-car person GM board members preferred to drive imports.
Proportion and shape didn't matter as long as all the brand-image boxes were checked."

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/20/l.../#aol-comments

CamaroSkooter · 06-21-2011, 08:16 AM

I just wanted an excuse to post that gif

2010SLVRBULIT · 06-21-2011, 08:22 AM

Many of the non-car person GM board members preferred to drive imports.
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8cd03gro · 06-21-2011, 12:01 PM

These guys need to learn how to shut their mouths. . .

Mr Twisty · 06-21-2011, 06:43 PM

You call that dirt?

Zabo · 06-21-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

You call that dirt?

To joe blow who still thinks GM's in bankruptcy?

Yeah.

And I'd bet cash money that there are people out there who do.

coolman · 06-21-2011, 06:55 PM

Hummmm..... wonder why this thread got changed so quickly.

*DGthe3* · 06-21-2011, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TJ91

hes such a douche

Maybe ... but he's also been the driving force behind revamping GM's product line over the last few years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

These guys need to learn how to shut their mouths. . .

'these guys' meaning who, exactly?

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolman

Hummmm..... wonder why this thread got changed so quickly.

Whats been changed? Only thing that has been changed that I know of is the original title, but when you merge threads you can only keep one. And even then, that took a couple days because until today there was no other thread to merge it with.

8cd03gro · 06-22-2011, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

'these guys' meaning who, exactly?

Auto executives, Lutz especially.

*DGthe3* · 06-22-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Auto executives, Lutz especially.

Hmmm ... I found it interesting to hear about the BS that was going on inside GM ~10 years ago, as well as hearing his opinion on things like CAFE. While I may not agree with everything he says, I at least respect the opinion of a man with 40 years of experience among 4 different automakers.

06-19-2011, 04:36 PM	#1
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	Bob Lutz on Autoline Detroit Cars vs Beans What sounds like a lawsuit working its way through the U.S. court system is in reality the epic struggle that plagued the American auto industry the last four decades. And Bob Lutz is the auto executive who has seen it all. Over his nearly 50 years on the inside, he ran BMW, Ford, Chrysler and GM. Now that he’s retired and on the outside he’s pointing out problems with the industry. In his latest book – Car Guys Versus Bean Counters – he spotlights those, he believes, who have hurt the industry the most. And you don’t need an MBA to figure out who he means. This week the man known as “Maximum Bob” joins John McElroy on Autoline along with panelists Csaba Csere and Peter De Lorenzo to discuss his book and the industry he devoted his life to. You can watch him on autoline afterhours from a few months ago here __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

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Sawyer Drives: '13 5.0 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,345 View My Garage	Video: Lutz dishes dirt on GM in latest Autoline Detroit "All Chevrolet vehicles were required to have five-spoke aluminum wheels and a chrome band up front, as part of the Bowtie brand's overall image. Pontiac was required to utilize "see-through" headrests, despite the fact that they cost more to produce while offering no consumer value. All Buicks required a sweep spear in the exterior design language. Cadillac considered building a 550-horsepower supercharged Escalade. Saturn was working on a seven-passenger Vue. Many of the non-car person GM board members preferred to drive imports. Proportion and shape didn't matter as long as all the brand-image boxes were checked." http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/20/l.../#aol-comments

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2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,524 View My Garage	Many of the non-car person GM board members preferred to drive imports. ... http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/20/l.../#aol-comments[/QUOTE]

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8cd03gro Drives: 2005 STi corn fed Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,997	These guys need to learn how to shut their mouths. . .

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coolman Guest Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PA Posts: 4,812	Hummmm..... wonder why this thread got changed so quickly.