American or Foriegn?

[xBlackout_Camaro]

a great question for a bunch of American car enthusiasts hahaha

[chops]

Perhaps my thoughts on global economics are limited, but by buying American aren't you still supporting American companies?

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by chops

Perhaps my thoughts on global economics are limited, but by buying American aren't you still supporting American companies?

It's not that simple..

Yes, buying "American" you can be supporting American -- but, what about American companies that outsource almost all of their manufacturing, call centers, etc overseas because it's cheap labor and then only employ minimally here? You could very well be better off supporting a Foreign brand that employs all manner of Americans here.

[UT-Engineer]

Originally Posted by chops

Perhaps my thoughts on global economics are limited, but by buying American aren't you still supporting American companies?

Yea the companies make billions but is that money pumped back into the US...not really. If the labor, material, and manufacturing plants are out-sourced... than thats not very much support to the US now is it. American Tax payers bailed out GM.. then GM creates plants where its more affordable for them to operate... then the cars are imported back to the US.

[tonyfred]

Car companies are all multinational corporations now. Dont be tricked into thinking you are more patriotic if you buy a Chevy instead of a Toyota. The closest thing to a totally American made car now is the Camry. The world has changed.
I remember Zenith tvs were made here in the USA. When they moved the plant to Mexico, the boxes were still marked "Made In America". Which was true. Mexico and Canada are both part of America.
So our Camaros are assembled in America. Oshawa is in America. No telling where all the parts come from though.
I traded a Mitsubishi Galant GTS in for my Camaro. I NEVER did one thing to that car other than install brake pads and change the oil. It was a great car.

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by tonyfred

...the boxes were still marked "Made In America". Which was true. Mexico and Canada are both part of America.

I'm glad someone else points that out...

America is a very, very large set of land masses

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas

I understand the assertion is that American = USA... But, Americans are all manner of people and saying "Made in America" can refer to all manner of countries.

[MillerTime]

Originally Posted by HumanWiki

It's not BS. The terminology being used doesn't make sense anymore... Domestic/Import, American/Foreign. Almost all cars have parts from other countries in them. Anyone that owns a Camaro owns an Import. Same with anyone owning a GTO.

Certain Honda cars are Domestic..

So, the argument itself is meaningless and it usually leads in to things like "Support US workers" -- which is also meaningless because while the Camaro is assembled and built by Canadians, GM/Chevy employ all manner of US workers -- So, we boycott a brand or a model? -- Same with Honda.. Let's not buy from an evil Foreign car maker and support US -- So, don't buy Honda, even though they employ a great many people in the states.

If this one doesn't go that way, I'd be surprised.. but, most of the "What type do you buy" threads go in to the debate of support local workers and just devolve in to flames.

Plus the statement in the OP's message is conflicting.. I don't buy Foreign (listing Honda) -- Well, that's domestically made... But, I buy American like Chevy/Dodge ... well, some of those are made out of Country..

My point is that you KNOW what he's asking and you still want to bring up some argument that nobody ever wins.

To the OP... I have only bought GM products and I intend to continue to do so.

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by MillerTime

My point is that you KNOW what he's asking and you still want to bring up some argument that nobody ever wins.

To the OP... I have only bought GM products and I intend to continue to do so.

I don't know what the OP is asking.. Like I said.. The very explanations and statements used are incorrect.

Camaro isn't a USA made car
Honda isn't a non-USA made set of cars

The examples are self contradictory, so there's nothing from which to really talk about other than what's being explained above.

It would be like saying, I hate listening to Foreign music like Country/Western

[MillerTime]

Originally Posted by HumanWiki

I don't know what the OP is asking.. Like I said.. The very explanations and statements used are incorrect.

Camaro isn't a USA made car
Honda isn't a non-USA made set of cars

The examples are self contradictory, so there's nothing from which to really talk about other than what's being explained above.

It would be like saying, I hate listening to Foreign music like Country/Western

The reference to music isn't even relevant and doesn't make sense..

The CAMARO is an AMERICAN car designed in AMERICA..
The HONDA is a JAPANESE car designed in JAPAN and is therefore an IMPORT...

all of this shit aside, honda's toyota's etc will always be considered POS imports.

[Sidd218]

Originally Posted by upflying

You do know the gen 5 Camaro is Canadian made?
You do know a lot of "foreign" cars are American made?
You do know many Dodge vehicles are Mexican made?

Yea I know but they are American Companies and Designed in america

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by MillerTime

The reference to music isn't even relevant and doesn't make sense..

The CAMARO is an AMERICAN car designed in AMERICA..
The HONDA is a JAPANESE car designed in JAPAN and is therefore an IMPORT...

all of this shit aside, honda's toyota's etc will always be considered POS imports.

Um.. There are plenty Honda's made here in the USA by Americans, supporting American Economny, providing jobs, etc.

How does the music reference not make sense? It's exactly the same thing, in terms of music Genre, that the OP stated about cars.

So.. something being designed in a certain country is what makes it that country's?
Well, I guess you can make BBQ Foreign food, because we didn't design it.

[BAD DAB]

American cars and guitars. Here is my list.
1-1964 Dodge van
2-1973 Plymouth Duster
3-1979 Chevy van
4-1982 GMC van (The Vans were the thing around this time)
5-1983 Chevy truck
6-1992 GMC Sportside Pickup truck
7-2004 GMC Extended Cab Pickup truck
8-2010 Chevy Camaro 2SS/RS
All American

[heRS]

I have 2 mazda pickups, they've been good vehicles. Had an old beater Subaru that I most definitely got my $900.00 worth over the course of 5 years. Most of my other rigs have been American manufacturers, and I'm partial to the GM product line.

[FenwickHockey65]

Bottom line:

General Motors is based in Detroit, Michigan
Ford Motor Company is based in Dearborn, Michigan
Chrysler is based in Auburn Hills, Michigan

Toyota is based in Toyota City, Japan
Honda is based in Minato, Japan
Nissan is based in Yokohama, Japan.

When one of those last three automakers decides to move to the US, then they'll be considered an American automaker. Until then, they're foreign, end of story, no matter how much Toyota's propaganda department tries to spin it.