The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[BigDan]

I don't think any weight had been removed or else they would of posted it in their mod list below.

Modification List
-Factory Stock Coyote Engine
-Factory Stock 6R80 6-Speed Automatic Transmission
-Circle D Specialties Pro Series Billet Torque Converter
-Ford Racing/Whipple Twin Screw Supercharger @ 12.5lbs of Boost
-75lb Fuel Injectors
-Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump
-L&M Dual 66mm Throttle Body
-123mm Carbon Fiber Cold Air Intake
-JLT Billet Oil Separators
-Evolution Performance, Inc. Custom Dyno Tune
-American Racing 1 7/8 Longtube Headers with 3" Collector and Off-Road X-Pipe
-Borla Catback Exhaust System
-Ford Racing 3.73 Gears
-Ford Racing Lowering Springs
-Evolution Upper Control Arm and Mount
-Evolution Billet Lower Control Arms
-Evolution Adjustable Panhard Bar and Brace
-Black Weld RT-S Wheels with Mickey Thompson ET Street D.O.T. Tires
-109 Octane Unleaded Fuel

[Vega]

LOL, i totally disagree...the GT500 isnt designed exclusivly for quarter mile times yet just happens to pull decent handling out of nowhere. The Boss is not a limited model, the Laguna Boss is but not the base model. And still nobody answered the whole "if the Boss pulls better numbers than the GT500 why buy a GT500?" question. Except for implying "i dont care what numbers a car pulls as long as it has rediculous horsepower"

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by Vega

And still nobody answered the whole "if the Boss pulls better numbers than the GT500 why buy a GT500?

Because its hand built, fully forged, supercharged 5.4L is capable of making ridiculous power with very very little money invested, 3,660lb curb weight and 10 second time slips with only a pulley and DR's, and all the little upgrades that makes a GT500 a GT500.

Well the Boss has not yet beat the GT500's best time's in a straight line and the 2 have never gone head to head on road course. A faster track like VIR will favor the GT500 and close in the gap between the two more-so then on a short and slow track like the Streets of Willow where the Boss can really shine.

They are two different car's. I don't even know why I need to explain this to a car guy on a forum but here I go. The GT500 makes massive amount of low end torque compared to the Boss which is way more prone to wheel spin then the high revving NA 5.0L and it the only reason why it seems the Boss is quicker. Its all in the driver and if you want a new GT500 to hook up all you to need to get the 20" G2's sizzling before you attempt to put down all of its 550hp or get a set of stickies and run low 11's vs the Boss's high 11's.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Vega

LOL, i totally disagree...the GT500 isnt designed exclusivly for quarter mile times yet just happens to pull decent handling out of nowhere. The Boss is not a limited model, the Laguna Boss is but not the base model. And still nobody answered the whole "if the Boss pulls better numbers than the GT500 why buy a GT500?" question. Except for implying "i dont care what numbers a car pulls as long as it has rediculous horsepower"

The regular boss is limited. The laguna seca is SUPER limited, only 750 will be made. The reason some will get a gt500 over the boss is because everyone doesn't run at the track and some want a more comfortable daily driver. On the street, especially at higher speeds, the gt500 is going to feel and BE faster because it is in fact faster in a straight line with solid driving. Up top it will walk away from the boss. The boss is a track fighter while the gt500 is a GT car with a ton of power and some pretty good handling. Both have their place, but in reality the gt500 is going to be a much better all around street car.

[REVENGE]

I don't know what GM planned as far as final HP numbers for the ZL1 but this news will ensure they will not limit the power to the 550 hp range.

[Morepwr]

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

really? i could think of a time when there were a ton of different cars. now its just 'cami, mustang, challenger, ctsv,corvette' thats pretty much it. no chevelle, gto, firebird, Nova, ranchero, javelin,REAL charger, Torino, Galaxie 500, Impala SS, Dart, Marauder, Cutlass, Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Fairlane, GTX, Bonneville, Coronet, Satellite, Skylark, and im sure im missing others but even that list makes todays seem rather limited.

^This!

[Morepwr]

Personally I like all the "us versus them" thoughts no matter what brand is your favorite. Modern day muscle car wars and we as the people who like cars win. The rivalry and giving your friends who have the other brand a hard time is just part of the fun. I am not talking about bashing, but just having fun joking around. I am a GM guy but there is no denying the mustang is a great performing car.

[Sawyer]

http://video.edmunds.com/57837993001...e-111-9998.mp4

[thePill]

GM called Ford's bluff, but Ford wasn't bluffing. Releasing early would have given Ford more time, releasing late would delay Ford's 600+ HP response in which GM would have no time to counter. GM picked the middle to get Ford to release said info... Good news though, this will not be the GT500, although the 500 may still be available in a final MY design (ala 1970). I never seen this coming....

The suspension is new, the rubber will be improved... weight will come down again... Not much a 560hp, 4155lb ZL1 can do...

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by thePill

GM called Ford's bluff, but Ford wasn't bluffing. Releasing early would have given Ford more time, releasing late would delay Ford's 600+ HP response in which GM would have no time to counter. GM picked the middle to get Ford to release said info... Good news though, this will not be the GT500, although the 500 may still be available in a final MY design (ala 1970). I never seen this coming....

The suspension is new, the rubber will be improved... weight will come down again... Not much a 560hp, 4155lb ZL1 can do...

Now you know the curb weight too?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by thePill

The suspension is new, the rubber will be improved... weight will come down again... Not much a 560hp, 4155lb ZL1 can do...

Sometimes...I have to remind myself I'm not reading the script of a WWE show.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

thats pretty cool. They were able to get a faster time with the v6 mustang than they could with a c5 z06! also the boss wednt around quicker than the c6 grand sport

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/wi...of_willow.html

[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by BigDan

Well the Boss has not yet beat the GT500's best time's in a straight line and the 2 have never gone head to head on road course.

It will be tough for the gt 500 to top the boss LS time. God imagine the boss with a blower!

[snakekiller]

IL always has lower numbers.
i would of liked them to bring a professional to see the real difference, between the GT500 and Boss 302LS.