10 things you need to know right now about the CBA situation - Page 5

PoorMansCamaro · 03-09-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

What you mean by number 9?

The decertification strategy, if successful, eventually would force the NFL’s franchises to impose common rules for the draft, free agency, salary cap, and other player acquisition and retention devices. Once the league’s team adopt such measures, the stage would be set for an antitrust action challenging the decision of 32 businesses to apply across-the-board rules.
But what if the league decides to let the 32 separate businesses operate that way? There would be no draft; NFL teams would recruit players like colleges do. Players would sign contracts and become free agents once those contracts expire. With no minimum salaries, owners could pay as much — or as little — as they want for any and all players, limited only by the minimum wage.
The question becomes whether such an approach would screw up the competitive balance of the league. When considering that several franchises hovering well below what would have been the salary floor for 2010 had successful seasons, teams may realize that overspending for a football team carries little or no guarantee of success on the field.
Though the league surely would never do it, a commitment to the same fiscal discipline that was seen in 2010 would prevent a situation in which only a handful of teams have a chance of winning the Super Bowl — and in which a handful of franchises would never be competitive.

PQ · 03-09-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

The decertification strategy, if successful, eventually would force the NFL’s franchises to impose common rules for the draft, free agency, salary cap, and other player acquisition and retention devices. Once the league’s team adopt such measures, the stage would be set for an antitrust action challenging the decision of 32 businesses to apply across-the-board rules.
But what if the league decides to let the 32 separate businesses operate that way? There would be no draft; NFL teams would recruit players like colleges do. Players would sign contracts and become free agents once those contracts expire. With no minimum salaries, owners could pay as much — or as little — as they want for any and all players, limited only by the minimum wage.
The question becomes whether such an approach would screw up the competitive balance of the league. When considering that several franchises hovering well below what would have been the salary floor for 2010 had successful seasons, teams may realize that overspending for a football team carries little or no guarantee of success on the field.
Though the league surely would never do it, a commitment to the same fiscal discipline that was seen in 2010 would prevent a situation in which only a handful of teams have a chance of winning the Super Bowl — and in which a handful of franchises would never be competitive.

I'm all for this. Sink or swim. Be competitive with your team, or lose it.

PoorMansCamaro · 03-09-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

I'm all for this. Sink or swim. Be competitive with your team, or lose it.

guess you'll have to find a new team.

PoorMansCamaro · 03-09-2011, 05:42 PM

would be hilarious to see a team filled with players making minimum wage win the super bowl! hahahaha

PQ · 03-09-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

guess you'll have to find a new team.

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

would be hilarious to see a team filled with players making minimum wage win the super bowl! hahahaha

Can't argue with either. lol

Hell, the Bills wont' even spend it NOW.

3 SS's · 03-10-2011, 05:11 PM

two sides have agreed on a rookie salary cap

...maybe the Pats will keep those first 3 picks in the top 33...any other year, you know Belichicks wheelin & dealin with those.

2ndgenz28 · 03-10-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 3 SS's

two sides have agreed on a rookie salary cap

...maybe the Pats will keep those first 3 picks in the top 33...any other year, you know Belichicks wheelin & dealin with those.

Next owner demand, no saving trades beyond the next trading year

CJ Man · 03-11-2011, 11:14 PM

Hello lock out. Only action we are going to be seeing is in the court room. Wonder if directv will being selling the NFL court tv package this season?

This blows. When billionaires fight millionaires the person who lose the most is us.....the fans.

Oh well......at least the Knicks are relevant again so I have the NBA for now. They will never let this happen to them...................

2ndgenz28 · 03-12-2011, 01:01 AM

Ugliness ensues
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...stension031011

3 SS's · 03-12-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CJ Man

Wonder if directv will being selling the NFL court tv package this season?

This blows. When billionaires fight millionaires the person who lose the most is us.....the fans.

Oh well......at least the Knicks are relevant again so I have the NBA for now. They will never let this happen to them...................

it'll be resolved by then

yep....they still want my season ticket $$$$ money on time though!!!!

as long as they don't have to play defense

2ndgenz28 · 03-12-2011, 09:04 PM

The NFL labor landscape was 15 minutes away from official implosion Friday when union leader DeMaurice Smith emerged from Federal Mediation Conciliation Service headquarters in Washington D.C. and addressed a swarm of reporters.

Standing on the corner of 21st and K Street, the NFL Players Association’s executive director made a brief, forceful statement that delivered one final dare to the league’s owners: Agree to open your books within the quarter hour, or prepare for a battle royale.

Given that Smith surely understood there was almost no chance of the owners accepting those terms, his pronouncement was quickly portrayed as a public relations move designed to cast the union as the side which made the last offer before talks broke down and decertification ensued. And while there may have been an element of truth in that thinking, most observers missed the point.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...tedunion031111

PQ · 03-14-2011, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Ugliness ensues
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...stension031011

I love the way DeMaurice Himmler acts like the owners securement of money for a lockout is just a terrible hanous and illegal thing. It's THEIR money. If they want to put it away for entrenchment for a lockout, so be it. It's THEIR money.

I hope the players end out on their asses.

PQ · 03-14-2011, 05:05 AM

DeMaurice Himmler is a Gangster and Manning, Brady and Breeze are his thugs.

Makes me sick to my stomache.

Cbrenthus · 03-14-2011, 05:49 AM

Simply put, my feelings are that, especially in this economy, I don't want to here a bunch of babies whine that millions a year isn't enough money to play a freaking game. I don't care how much the owners make, the Players make more than enough as it is, so who cares. I don't care if they are sacrifing their bodies, the ones that play that much make enough in a year to retire on comfortably the rest of their life. Besides, no one is holding a gun to their head and forcing them to play; if they don't like it, they can go get a different job.

I love football, but I think I'm done. I have better things to do on a Sunday than watch these spoiled brats throw a ball around. I also think the next few years will be interesting, as I suspect more people are going to feel like me and stop watching altogether, especially if there are any missed games due to a strike. Heck, the bucs were blacked out all last season because they couldn't sell enough tickets. If there's a strike, they may really go down.

Basically, if the played don't quit their whining, this may be the beginning of an end for NFL as we know it, and in a few years the players may be wishing they had their pre '11 salaries back!

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3 SS's Drives: Chevelle SS's Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: outta my mind Posts: 3,034 View My Garage	two sides have agreed on a rookie salary cap ...maybe the Pats will keep those first 3 picks in the top 33...any other year, you know Belichicks wheelin & dealin with those.

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CJ Man Missing my SS :( Drives: 2012 Ford Explorer [ :( ] Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,640	Hello lock out. Only action we are going to be seeing is in the court room. Wonder if directv will being selling the NFL court tv package this season? This blows. When billionaires fight millionaires the person who lose the most is us.....the fans. Oh well......at least the Knicks are relevant again so I have the NBA for now. They will never let this happen to them...................

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2ndgenz28 Thread Killer Drives: All Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NWO Toledo Area Posts: 4,720	Ugliness ensues http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...stension031011

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2ndgenz28 Thread Killer Drives: All Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NWO Toledo Area Posts: 4,720	The NFL labor landscape was 15 minutes away from official implosion Friday when union leader DeMaurice Smith emerged from Federal Mediation Conciliation Service headquarters in Washington D.C. and addressed a swarm of reporters. Standing on the corner of 21st and K Street, the NFL Players Association’s executive director made a brief, forceful statement that delivered one final dare to the league’s owners: Agree to open your books within the quarter hour, or prepare for a battle royale. Given that Smith surely understood there was almost no chance of the owners accepting those terms, his pronouncement was quickly portrayed as a public relations move designed to cast the union as the side which made the last offer before talks broke down and decertification ensued. And while there may have been an element of truth in that thinking, most observers missed the point. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...tedunion031111

03-14-2011, 05:49 AM	#70
Cbrenthus Drives: 2011 VR 1SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: FL Posts: 516	Simply put, my feelings are that, especially in this economy, I don't want to here a bunch of babies whine that millions a year isn't enough money to play a freaking game. I don't care how much the owners make, the Players make more than enough as it is, so who cares. I don't care if they are sacrifing their bodies, the ones that play that much make enough in a year to retire on comfortably the rest of their life. Besides, no one is holding a gun to their head and forcing them to play; if they don't like it, they can go get a different job. I love football, but I think I'm done. I have better things to do on a Sunday than watch these spoiled brats throw a ball around. I also think the next few years will be interesting, as I suspect more people are going to feel like me and stop watching altogether, especially if there are any missed games due to a strike. Heck, the bucs were blacked out all last season because they couldn't sell enough tickets. If there's a strike, they may really go down. Basically, if the played don't quit their whining, this may be the beginning of an end for NFL as we know it, and in a few years the players may be wishing they had their pre '11 salaries back!