US Recovery Plan

tjbusa · 02-16-2009, 12:27 PM

If I had anything to do about this 800 billion dollar recovery plan, I would use only half and build a 400 billion manufacturing plant centrally located in the United States. I'd offer any unemployed a job if they could get there. (walk, wagon train, bicycle, however)
Once there, like Ellis Island was for immigrants, find out their trades,skills and offer them financial advances and basic needs. Then put them to work building something the world needs and uses. Like shoes, clothing, electronics, solar power and wind generators, whatever. Just make it, "made in USA" and high Quality at a price that competes with the global economy. I remember a time where "made in USA" meant something and "Made in Japan" was junk.
I just hate to see money not well spent and pissed away, I am afraid that is just what is going to happen with this stimulus package. Time will tell... I'm counting on this North American built Camaro for sure.

Zabo · 02-16-2009, 12:32 PM

That would be called 1930s USA, buddy. Ain't gonna happen.. yet.

PQ · 02-16-2009, 01:24 PM

Right, but in the 30s they were making infrastructure and military items mostly.

To do it now would be a step in the wrong direction. The direction we're allready moving. You would have the Gov. with GREAT control of industry. Undercutting the private businesses. Until the privates took funding and then......well, you know what happens then. Can anyone say Russi................

tjbusa · 02-16-2009, 03:28 PM

Well this was what was on my mind and my point is Airbus. Italy, Germany, and France to name a few got together and build Airbus aircraft. This is a reason we don't have McDonnel Douglas and Rockwell International aircraft anymore. The only major player we have is left is Boeing . I'd just like to see this actual amount of 787 billion go for some rebuilding of whats been lost. Whatever it takes to get americans out of this rut with a good paying job making something the world needs. You might guess my camaro money depends on aviation .

dbotsfordtat · 02-16-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tjbusa

Well this was what was on my mind and my point is Airbus. Italy, Germany, and France to name a few got together and build Airbus aircraft. This is a reason we don't have McDonnel Douglas and Rockwell International aircraft anymore. The only major player we have is left is Boeing . I'd just like to see this actual amount of 787 billion go for some rebuilding of whats been lost. Whatever it takes to get americans out of this rut with a good paying job making something the world needs. You might guess my camaro money depends on aviation .

Yea, but how would Wall Street get their bonuses?

PQ · 02-16-2009, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjbusa

Well this was what was on my mind and my point is Airbus. Italy, Germany, and France to name a few got together and build Airbus aircraft. This is a reason we don't have McDonnel Douglas and Rockwell International aircraft anymore. The only major player we have is left is Boeing . I'd just like to see this actual amount of 787 billion go for some rebuilding of whats been lost. Whatever it takes to get americans out of this rut with a good paying job making something the world needs. You might guess my camaro money depends on aviation .

lol Aviation might actually benefit from this type of idea. Get the number from Blur and make it happen. It's the Feds that regulate most of it allready anyway.

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Originally Posted by dbotsfordtat

Yea, but how would Wall Street get their bonuses?

Wall Street started quaking with the election in November.

Number 3 · 02-16-2009, 07:29 PM

I like your inspiration, but there are fewer and fewer products the world wants or needs at our labor rates. But there are plenty of things we could do just for ourselves. My thought was High Speed Rail. Infrastructure jobs, maintanance, manufacturing of engines, train cars. Many permanent jobs not just jobs that run out when the stimulus package runs dry.

Buy also you mentioned Shoes and that's a hot button with me. You see we Americans find it accpetable for Nike (among others not to just pick on them) to pay their athletes 100's of millions if not billions a year for endorsement deals. Tiger Woods alone I think gets some ridiculous $20 Million a year. Yet the shoes are built somewhere in some cheap labor country that probably pays less than a buck an hour. Let's just take Tiger's money. $20 Million divided by $30,000 ($15 an hour annual labor rate). Well that's 650 or so Americans that could be working. But instead of demanding Nike make shoes here, we applaud Tiger and buy more Nike stuff because of who has the endorsement deal. This is something that we as Americans could just simply not participate in. But we do and will.

By the way, did you know that the electronics sold in Japan are built in Japan, but the same model sold here is made in Thailand, China or Korea? I know a guy that always buys his electronics when he travels to Japan. They protect their home turf. Americans? We just gladdly look for the cheapest thing we can find regardless of where it is made.

So no we don't need a stimulus package to do what you want. We just have to stand up as Americans for Americans. No money needed.

Sorry.....putting soap box away now.

PQ · 02-16-2009, 07:37 PM

Tigers coming to get you.

lol

Infrastructure and Military related.

Number 3 · 02-16-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by irpq11

Tigers coming to get you.

lol

Infrastructure and Military related.

I would be very happy to play a round of Golf with Mr. Woods and discuss the topic.

I'm sure he is still suffering the pain of losing his $8 Million per year from Buick. I could console him with a ride in Number 3

PQ · 02-16-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

I would be very happy to play a round of Golf with Mr. Woods and discuss the topic.

I'm sure he is still suffering the pain of losing his $8 Million per year from Buick. I could console him with a ride in Number 3

Heck at this point I'd give up 8 mil. for a ride in #3

If of course Tiger was paying.

tjbusa · 02-16-2009, 09:53 PM

Well there you have it, if americans buy american and the profits go into the pockets of americans, we will be alright....
This new 787 billion stimulus package needs more cowbell when it comes to permanent jobs. It still blows me away that the toyota camary is the #1 selling car in America.

diddiyo · 02-16-2009, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjbusa

I'm counting on this North American built Camaro for sure.

you mean the "developed in Australia and built in Canada"-Camaro?

Matrix · 02-17-2009, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irpq11

Tigers coming to get you.

lol

Infrastructure and Military related.

Hmmmmm!!! Can you say Martial Law!!! DOH!!!!! I just said it!!!!

dbotsfordtat · 02-17-2009, 10:20 AM

IMO insurmountable corruption in government, nothing is going to get better in America until the whole thing crashes down. :(

02-16-2009, 07:29 PM	#7
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,301 View My Garage	I like your inspiration, but there are fewer and fewer products the world wants or needs at our labor rates. But there are plenty of things we could do just for ourselves. My thought was High Speed Rail. Infrastructure jobs, maintanance, manufacturing of engines, train cars. Many permanent jobs not just jobs that run out when the stimulus package runs dry. Buy also you mentioned Shoes and that's a hot button with me. You see we Americans find it accpetable for Nike (among others not to just pick on them) to pay their athletes 100's of millions if not billions a year for endorsement deals. Tiger Woods alone I think gets some ridiculous $20 Million a year. Yet the shoes are built somewhere in some cheap labor country that probably pays less than a buck an hour. Let's just take Tiger's money. $20 Million divided by $30,000 ($15 an hour annual labor rate). Well that's 650 or so Americans that could be working. But instead of demanding Nike make shoes here, we applaud Tiger and buy more Nike stuff because of who has the endorsement deal. This is something that we as Americans could just simply not participate in. But we do and will. By the way, did you know that the electronics sold in Japan are built in Japan, but the same model sold here is made in Thailand, China or Korea? I know a guy that always buys his electronics when he travels to Japan. They protect their home turf. Americans? We just gladdly look for the cheapest thing we can find regardless of where it is made. So no we don't need a stimulus package to do what you want. We just have to stand up as Americans for Americans. No money needed. Sorry.....putting soap box away now. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

02-16-2009, 07:37 PM	#8
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	Tigers coming to get you. lol Infrastructure and Military related. __________________

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02-16-2009, 12:27 PM	#1
tjbusa Serious Sleeper Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lexington,SC Posts: 3,129	US Recovery Plan If I had anything to do about this 800 billion dollar recovery plan, I would use only half and build a 400 billion manufacturing plant centrally located in the United States. I'd offer any unemployed a job if they could get there. (walk, wagon train, bicycle, however) Once there, like Ellis Island was for immigrants, find out their trades,skills and offer them financial advances and basic needs. Then put them to work building something the world needs and uses. Like shoes, clothing, electronics, solar power and wind generators, whatever. Just make it, "made in USA" and high Quality at a price that competes with the global economy. I remember a time where "made in USA" meant something and "Made in Japan" was junk. I just hate to see money not well spent and pissed away, I am afraid that is just what is going to happen with this stimulus package. Time will tell... I'm counting on this North American built Camaro for sure.

02-16-2009, 12:32 PM	#2
Zabo Gunning for Sixth Drives: '03 ZR2 Blazer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Woodhaven, Michigan Posts: 9,358 View My Garage	That would be called 1930s USA, buddy. Ain't gonna happen.. yet.

02-16-2009, 01:24 PM	#3
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	Right, but in the 30s they were making infrastructure and military items mostly. To do it now would be a step in the wrong direction. The direction we're allready moving. You would have the Gov. with GREAT control of industry. Undercutting the private businesses. Until the privates took funding and then......well, you know what happens then. Can anyone say Russi................ __________________

02-16-2009, 03:28 PM	#4
tjbusa Serious Sleeper Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lexington,SC Posts: 3,129	Well this was what was on my mind and my point is Airbus. Italy, Germany, and France to name a few got together and build Airbus aircraft. This is a reason we don't have McDonnel Douglas and Rockwell International aircraft anymore. The only major player we have is left is Boeing . I'd just like to see this actual amount of 787 billion go for some rebuilding of whats been lost. Whatever it takes to get americans out of this rut with a good paying job making something the world needs. You might guess my camaro money depends on aviation .

02-16-2009, 09:53 PM	#11
tjbusa Serious Sleeper Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lexington,SC Posts: 3,129	Well there you have it, if americans buy american and the profits go into the pockets of americans, we will be alright.... This new 787 billion stimulus package needs more cowbell when it comes to permanent jobs. It still blows me away that the toyota camary is the #1 selling car in America.

02-17-2009, 10:20 AM	#14
dbotsfordtat Drives: 2016 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 499	IMO insurmountable corruption in government, nothing is going to get better in America until the whole thing crashes down. :(