Tired of people ragging on pit bulls...

[Capthowdy]

it's because that breed is chosen by Trailer park trash and thugs that like to fight them or people who only care about how tough or cool a dog looks and then the pit gets mistreated and abused then lashes out and hurts someone...

[2ndgenz28]

The answer is less pitbulls as the problem is 95% of those who want one, do it for the wrong reasons.

There for, way to many are being breed for dumb people.


Slash the breed down on population so that even a pitbull mix is 5grand and not $20 on every street corner and then only people who will do right with the dog, will be willing to buy them.


problem solved, less of that breed is the solution.

I know your still upset ok

so how about mandiatory fixing to have one in the inner city where for some reason most of the dumb owners live??? With stiff 1000s of dollars fine for not registering and fixing the dog.

[BlissStreet]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

pit bulls are just evil evil dogs sent to Earth by Sating himself!

save the face palm for when you know how to spell Satan. He is, after all, only the Antichrist.

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

No one takes the time to actually think for themselves, do some research, and see that statistically german shepherds and chow chows are more likely to bite than a pit bull is. But no one wants to ban THOSE breeds...

I think you need to do more research. American Pitbull Terriers were originally bred to bait bulls and bears. They are a cross of a Bulldog, which was bred to be pain insensitive to allow bull baiting; and the Terriers, which were bred for fearlessness, tenacity and energy. The cross led to a naturally aggressive, fearless dog that was pain insensitive and easily set off by motion.

I agree that a dog is the product of it's owners, to a degree. But to suggest that centuries of breeding have no impact on a dog is naive to the extreme. They were bred to fight, first bears and bulls, later hordes of rats, and lastly each other. They have no working dog background, they aren't from a herding background like a Rottweiler or German Shepard; they aren't game dogs like most of the Terriers or Retrievers. Look up the history of why they are called "Pit" dogs. And compare that to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, which shares a similar breeding background.

[GbrilliantQ]

Originally Posted by BlissStreet

save the face palm for when you know how to spell Satan. He is, after all, only the Antichrist.



I think you need to do more research. American Pitbull Terriers were originally bred to bait bulls and bears. They are a cross of a Bulldog, which was bred to be pain insensitive to allow bull baiting; and the Terriers, which were bred for fearlessness, tenacity and energy. The cross led to a naturally aggressive, fearless dog that was pain insensitive and easily set off by motion.

I agree that a dog is the product of it's owners, to a degree. But to suggest that centuries of breeding have no impact on a dog is naive to the extreme. They were bred to fight, first bears and bulls, later hordes of rats, and lastly each other. They have no working dog background, they aren't from a herding background like a Rottweiler or German Shepard; they aren't game dogs like most of the Terriers or Retrievers. Look up the history of why they are called "Pit" dogs. And compare that to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, which shares a similar breeding background.

and yet, in a loving home, they sleep with kids on top of them together. Let them play horse back and grow old with the elderly and have never shown aggression.

[BlissStreet]

Originally Posted by GbrilliantQ

and yet, in a loving home, they sleep with kids on top of them together. Let them play horse back and grow old with the elderly and have never shown aggression.

I totally agree. But taken as a breed, an owner should understand the basic breed characteristics. The how and why the breed came about says a lot about how to handle them and the care they need. In a high energy household with lots of play and love, I have no doubt they thrive. That environment feeds the energy of the terrier and the melds well with the instinctive protectiveness. They see a lot of motion and have lots of social interaction.

Much like a Ridgeback, this isn't a breed to take lightly nor one which is suited to everyone. My personal interaction with Pittbulls has never been a good one. Like SScattergunSS, I see un neutered males more likely to attack other dogs and very easily set off by quick motion. And with a Terrier and a Dachshund of my own, both of which don't (by breed) understand how to back down, it's my hand or body that has to get in there. So, when confronted with the breed - especially off the lead - I take my dogs elsewhere to avoid the inevitable.

[Brokinarrow]

BlissStreet: I agree, the breed was bread for their aggressiveness and definitely not everyone is cut out to raise a pit bull. Which is why I went on to explain that if someone takes the time to properly raise the dog, it will be fine.

Secondly, indeed I am human, and I do make typos now and then. Does that make my points less valid? Again, don't be a lemming...

[SScattergunSS]

Originally Posted by BlissStreet

I totally agree. But taken as a breed, an owner should understand the basic breed characteristics. The how and why the breed came about says a lot about how to handle them and the care they need. In a high energy household with lots of play and love, I have no doubt they thrive. That environment feeds the energy of the terrier and the melds well with the instinctive protectiveness. They see a lot of motion and have lots of social interaction.

Much like a Ridgeback, this isn't a breed to take lightly nor one which is suited to everyone. My personal interaction with Pittbulls has never been a good one. Like SScattergunSS, I see un neutered males more likely to attack other dogs and very easily set off by quick motion. And with a Terrier and a Dachshund of my own, both of which don't (by breed) understand how to back down, it's my hand or body that has to get in there. So, when confronted with the breed - especially off the lead - I take my dogs elsewhere to avoid the inevitable.

Sir, indeed you do seem to have a very good understanding overall about 'mans best friend'! While you did mention this already, I would like add emphasis to the notion of knowing what different breeds were bred to do. As an example, should a person have the opportunity to observe a well bred pointing gun dog out in the field...even a young untrained one, you will likely marvel at how years of breeding will show forth in it's 'instincts'! They were bred for it, and it's a thing of beauty to behold them doing what comes naturally!

[fielderLS3]

Originally Posted by GbrilliantQ

and yet, in a loving home, they sleep with kids on top of them together. Let them play horse back and grow old with the elderly and have never shown aggression.

Ticking time bomb.

[BlissStreet]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

Secondly, indeed I am human, and I do make typos now and then. Does that make my points less valid? Again, don't be a lemming...

That part was in jest. I meant, if you have to misspell a word...then perhaps that one isn't the one you want to. But then, dark humor never translates well on the internet.

Originally Posted by SScattergunSS

They were bred for it, and it's a thing of beauty to behold them doing what comes naturally!

True. Unless it's 6am Saturday morning, you're in your pajamas, and your Dachshund found a fresh mole hill. Then, it's just a mess! Man can they dig. In minutes it's just hind legs and butt.

[GbrilliantQ]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

Ticking time bomb.

My Mothers first one Damien, the one I talked about and you quoted, lived to 14 years and never had a problem. He died 3 years ago and now she has another Brindle Pit Bull named Maggie. No problems.

No ticking time bomb.


edit: I would own one too, but I'm not a dog person really and my wife has 3 stupid cats already.

[SScattergunSS]

Originally Posted by BlissStreet

True. Unless it's 6am Saturday morning, you're in your pajamas, and your Dachshund found a fresh mole hill. Then, it's just a mess! Man can they dig. In minutes it's just hind legs and butt.

But that is exactly what makes all the different breeds of dogs so much fun! And I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't trade that pup of yours for anything in the world, huh?!


On a side note, I just finished admiring your photographs in the provided link. Sincererely, you really are a quite talented artist!

[Milk 1027]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Although I agree, if you treat your pitbull with love and take really good care of them, they will turn out great. But why is it that when there is news about a dog attack, 9/10 times it's from a pitbull? I'm sure people neglect more then just pitbulls. I think it's part of their nature to be overly aggressive.

That's because the media selects what they report on.

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

That's because they, as well as Rottweilers, are statistically the highest breeds that attack people...

Yes they are statistically the highest. That's because people get the dogs without understanding the breed simply because they are "cool". If you don't understand that certain dogs have certaing needs, you will always have problems with them. If the owner knows how to treat the dog and understand that it can become aggressive if not trained properly, there won't be a problem. Dogs aren't naturally aggressive towards people, uneducated and unprepared people make the dogs aggressive.

[BlissStreet]

Originally Posted by SScattergunSS

And I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't trade that pup of yours for anything in the world, huh?!

Nope, not a chance. We are a tad worried when our next move comes, since GM will only pay to move one animal. It cost us $5,000 to get the 2 cats from Dubai to Johannesburg, and this coming move will be 4 animals. Here's to hoping that we get a volume discount on the next move.

Originally Posted by SScattergunSS

On a side note, I just finished admiring your photographs in the provided link. Sincererely, you really are a quite talented artist!

Thank you. Which link did you click? The top one is my website with my portfolio and bio. There is "image info" roll over in the upper right that provides some insight to the images. The lower one is my Flickr account, which is really for my family to see what I'm up to.

[SScattergunSS]

Originally Posted by BlissStreet

Nope, not a chance. We are a tad worried when our next move comes, since GM will only pay to move one animal. It cost us $5,000 to get the 2 cats from Dubai to Johannesburg, and this coming move will be 4 animals. Here's to hoping that we get a volume discount on the next move.

Thank you. Which link did you click? The top one is my website with my portfolio and bio. There is "image info" roll over in the upper right that provides some insight to the images. The lower one is my Flickr account, which is really for my family to see what I'm up to.

Ouch, that is liable to be an expensive move!

As far as which link....I looked through both of them. I'm sorry if I entered an area I wasn't supposed to. I mean, there isn't anything inappropriate or that, but if it was meant to be private, I do apologize...please forgive me. Having said that, I love photography! You've photographed so much from so many unique locations, I thoroughly enjoyed the time I spent in there!