Oregon Reintroduces Bill to Limit Suspension/Tire Alterations

SEMA Action Network · 03-01-2011, 04:17 PM

http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62919

A bill (H.B. 3147) has been introduced in the Oregon legislature that would severely limit vehicle suspension, body lift and wheel/tire alterations. Specifically, H.B. 3147 would ban vehicles whose bumpers are elevated more than 3 inches over the original manufactured bumper clearance. Identical legislation was last introduced in Oregon in 2001.

We Urge You to Contact Members of the Oregon House Committee on Transportation and Economic Development (List Attached Below) Immediately to Request Their Opposition to H.B. 3147

• H.B. 3147 would ban reasonably altered vehicles due to overstated concerns with bumper mismatch.

• H.B. 3147 discriminates against hobbyists and aftermarket parts makers by leaving it solely to the vehicle manufacturers to choose bumper heights.

• H.B. 3147 would force owners of modified vehicles to spend large sums of money to reinstall original components.

• H.B. 3147 would ban useful alterations that provide adequate clearance for on/off road capability and accommodate heavy loads, larger tires, improved suspension and water-fording capability.

• H.B. 3147 would impose a fine of up to $360 per offense for vehicles that exceed the 3 inch clearance requirement.

DON’T DELAY! This bill tramples on the rights of 4x4 vehicle enthusiasts in Oregon. Please contact members of the House Committee on Transportation and Economic Development immediately by phone or e-mail to request their opposition to H.B. 3417.

Please e-mail a copy of your letter to Steve McDonald at stevem@sema.org. Also, please forward this Alert to your fellow car enthusiasts. Urge them to join the SAN and help defend the hobby! Thank you for your assistance.

Oregon House Committee on Transportation and Economic Development

Representative Cliff Bentz - Co-Chair
Phone: 503/986-1460
Email: rep.cliffbentz@state.or.us

Representative Tobias Read - Co-Chair
Phone: 503/986-1427
Email: rep.tobiasread@state.or.us

Representative E. Terry Beyer - Co-Vice Chair
Phone: 503/986-1412
Email: rep.terrybeyer@state.or.us

Representative Patrick Sheehan - Co-Vice Chair
Phone: 503/986-1451
Email: rep.patricksheehan@state.or.us

Representative Shawn Lindsay
Phone: 503/986-1430
Email: rep.shawnlindsay@state.or.us

Representative Nancy Nathanson
Phone: 503/986-1413
Email: rep.nancynathanson@state.or.us

Representative Jefferson Smith
Phone: 503/986-1447
Email: rep.jeffersonsmith@state.or.us

Representative Jim Weidner
Phone: 503/986-1424
Email: rep.jimweidner@state.or.us

SEMA Action Network · 03-01-2011, 04:18 PM

Slightly off topic for Camaro5 but it shows what can/will be done if we don't unite and act.

Zabo · 03-01-2011, 04:26 PM

Death of Donks? I'm down with it.

GrinderSS · 03-01-2011, 05:07 PM

That's what you get with liberals...Oregon is second only to California in the number of kook liberals it has. Once they get their way, we'll all be riding bicycles, much like like they do in communist China and socialist Europe.

Hell, thanks to them we already have toilets that can barely handle bird droppings, dumb curly light bulbs that take 5 minutes to fully light, and ugly hybrid cars people wouldn't buy without a tax credit.

Big government statists, I can't stand them!

SleepWarz · 03-01-2011, 05:15 PM

http://www.streetfire.net/video/vw-g...ts_2205629.htm

No bikes for me

THE EVIL TW1N · 03-01-2011, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrinderSS

That's what you get with liberals...Oregon is second only to California in the number of kook liberals it has....

smog laws suck but they help keep the air clean.

Number 3 · 03-01-2011, 06:30 PM

Wait................what? 4x4 owners have rights? 28th amendmant. LOL

And just so everyone understands, bumper mismatches are HUGE in a car to car crash. But if you know you will never be in a crash then they are right, it's overstated. Not knowing the history of the bill or it's 2001 introduction, seems like this is the real reason for the bill. Someone was probably killed or injured by a jacked up 4x4 and this is the response.

Not buying or selling, just amused by the language used in fighting off this bill.

BigMatt · 03-01-2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrinderSS

That's what you get with liberals...Oregon is second only to California in the number of kook liberals it has. Once they get their way, we'll all be riding bicycles, much like like they do in communist China and socialist Europe.

Hell, thanks to them we already have toilets that can barely handle bird droppings, dumb curly light bulbs that take 5 minutes to fully light, and ugly hybrid cars people wouldn't buy without a tax credit.

Big government statists, I can't stand them!

Amen brother!!

THE EVIL TW1N · 03-01-2011, 09:13 PM

this legislation wouldn't be too bad. Lifted vehicles on the roadway alter the height in which cars on the roadway are tested against, making it unsafe for other vehicles in which were not tested against the lifted car. I'm ok with lifted vehicles, as long as it's off-road (as in, off of the roadway ONLY).

SEMA Action Network · 03-02-2011, 09:13 AM

Some of you are looking at the extreme, say an Excursion or a Jeep that's practically on stilts, say 2' raised. This bill wouldn't allow a vehicle to exceed simply 3" above the OE bumper height. It would also be fiscally costly to this community of enthusiasts who must now pay/work to reinstall OE equipment to conform to the law.

If the shoe were on the other foot, how would you feel if it was about lowering cars? It has been tried before. We can't give ground on these attacks, even if they're part of another hobby subset. The NIMBY excuse can't exist in the battle to protect our rights.

THE EVIL TW1N · 03-02-2011, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEMA Action Network

Some of you are looking at the extreme, say an Excursion or a Jeep that's practically on stilts, say 2' raised. This bill wouldn't allow a vehicle to exceed simply 3" above the OE bumper height. It would also be fiscally costly to this community of enthusiasts who must now pay/work to reinstall OE equipment to conform to the law.

If the shoe were on the other foot, how would you feel if it was about lowering cars? It has been tried before. We can't give ground on these attacks, even if they're part of another hobby subset. The NIMBY excuse can't exist in the battle to protect our rights.

maybe sema can do some crash testing and present evidence for how high a truck can safely be lifted without providing an added danger to others on the road.
the legislation doesnt say you cant lift the vehicle. You could, you just cant have the bumpers way up in the air. So they wouldnt have to spend a lot of money lowering the car, they just have to find a way to make their bumpers low enough to be safe for the people they might kill. By having a monster truck, those people endanger everybody around them. a lowered car doesnt present the same added danger. With that said, a car that is way too low can also be dangerous.

motorhead · 03-02-2011, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrinderSS

That's what you get with liberals...Oregon is second only to California in the number of kook liberals it has. Once they get their way, we'll all be riding bicycles, much like like they do in communist China and socialist Europe.

Hell, thanks to them we already have toilets that can barely handle bird droppings, dumb curly light bulbs that take 5 minutes to fully light, and ugly hybrid cars people wouldn't buy without a tax credit.

Big government statists, I can't stand them!

CamaroMiami · 03-02-2011, 11:03 AM

I don't think it has to do with the liberals as much as it has to do with safety.

What seems to have happened is someone(s) innocent (non-liberal ) got F@#% up by a (non-liberal's ) not in compliance with the proposed H.B. 3147 and they are trying to prevent another occurrence and provide safety to all in a legal way.

SEMA Action Network · 03-02-2011, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

maybe sema can do some crash testing and present evidence for how high a truck can safely be lifted without providing an added danger to others on the road.
the legislation doesnt say you cant lift the vehicle. You could, you just cant have the bumpers way up in the air. So they wouldnt have to spend a lot of money lowering the car, they just have to find a way to make their bumpers low enough to be safe for the people they might kill. By having a monster truck, those people endanger everybody around them. a lowered car doesnt present the same added danger. With that said, a car that is way too low can also be dangerous.

Once you raise the vehicle with leaving the OE bumper height, you negate the purpose of raising it in the first place.

03-01-2011, 04:17 PM	#1
SEMA Action Network Drives: Camaro Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 118	Oregon Reintroduces Bill to Limit Suspension/Tire Alterations http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62919 A bill (H.B. 3147) has been introduced in the Oregon legislature that would severely limit vehicle suspension, body lift and wheel/tire alterations. Specifically, H.B. 3147 would ban vehicles whose bumpers are elevated more than 3 inches over the original manufactured bumper clearance. Identical legislation was last introduced in Oregon in 2001. We Urge You to Contact Members of the Oregon House Committee on Transportation and Economic Development (List Attached Below) Immediately to Request Their Opposition to H.B. 3147 • H.B. 3147 would ban reasonably altered vehicles due to overstated concerns with bumper mismatch. • H.B. 3147 discriminates against hobbyists and aftermarket parts makers by leaving it solely to the vehicle manufacturers to choose bumper heights. • H.B. 3147 would force owners of modified vehicles to spend large sums of money to reinstall original components. • H.B. 3147 would ban useful alterations that provide adequate clearance for on/off road capability and accommodate heavy loads, larger tires, improved suspension and water-fording capability. • H.B. 3147 would impose a fine of up to $360 per offense for vehicles that exceed the 3 inch clearance requirement. DON’T DELAY! This bill tramples on the rights of 4x4 vehicle enthusiasts in Oregon. Please contact members of the House Committee on Transportation and Economic Development immediately by phone or e-mail to request their opposition to H.B. 3417. Please e-mail a copy of your letter to Steve McDonald at stevem@sema.org. Also, please forward this Alert to your fellow car enthusiasts. Urge them to join the SAN and help defend the hobby! Thank you for your assistance. Oregon House Committee on Transportation and Economic Development Representative Cliff Bentz - Co-Chair Phone: 503/986-1460 Email: rep.cliffbentz@state.or.us Representative Tobias Read - Co-Chair Phone: 503/986-1427 Email: rep.tobiasread@state.or.us Representative E. Terry Beyer - Co-Vice Chair Phone: 503/986-1412 Email: rep.terrybeyer@state.or.us Representative Patrick Sheehan - Co-Vice Chair Phone: 503/986-1451 Email: rep.patricksheehan@state.or.us Representative Shawn Lindsay Phone: 503/986-1430 Email: rep.shawnlindsay@state.or.us Representative Nancy Nathanson Phone: 503/986-1413 Email: rep.nancynathanson@state.or.us Representative Jefferson Smith Phone: 503/986-1447 Email: rep.jeffersonsmith@state.or.us Representative Jim Weidner Phone: 503/986-1424 Email: rep.jimweidner@state.or.us

03-01-2011, 06:30 PM	#7
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,301 View My Garage	Wait................what? 4x4 owners have rights? 28th amendmant. LOL And just so everyone understands, bumper mismatches are HUGE in a car to car crash. But if you know you will never be in a crash then they are right, it's overstated. Not knowing the history of the bill or it's 2001 introduction, seems like this is the real reason for the bill. Someone was probably killed or injured by a jacked up 4x4 and this is the response. Not buying or selling, just amused by the language used in fighting off this bill. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

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