370Z vs Cayman S vs 911 vs 135i vs S2000

[Camaro_Corvette]

Oh very good! Competition is good

[4thGenRocks]

Originally Posted by lil_chef

i think im just jealous that an american car company hasn't offered a car as great and awesome handling as the 370z. im crossing my fingers that in every single way shape and form the camaro SS murders it straight line and in the turns but for now i guess ill have to the 370z and admire it as a worthy competitor

It will be a very good race between 370Z and Camaro SS. In the road race, 370Z will be really agile in the twisties. SS may catch up with it in the straights with it's almighty LS engine but I really can't predict the outcome. In drag racing, SS hands down, NO DOUBT.

I don't know how excited you guys are, I am super thrilled. The Z and the camaro -- MY TWO MOST favorite cars. I am very satisfied with the 370Z performance so far and I can't wait to see the new Camaro on the road.

[Design1stCode2nd]

The 370Z has a very real chance of being my next car except I don’t know how I’d feel about my “sports car” being slower than my DD. Of course that’s 4 or more years away and that’s a lifetime when it comes to cars.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by lil_chef

i think im just jealous that an american car company hasn't offered a car as great and awesome handling as the 370z.

What do you call the Corvette? The Nissan is just smaller, and less powerful. fwiw; I never accepted the comparisons with the Camaro...completely different cars, imo with only a pricepoint to share. 2 seater v 4 seater, V6 v. V8....The list goes on...

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by Design1stCode2nd

The 370Z has a very real chance of being my next car except I don’t know how I’d feel about my “sports car” being slower than my DD. Of course that’s 4 or more years away and that’s a lifetime when it comes to cars.

What would your DD be?

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

What do you call the Corvette? The Nissan is just smaller, and less powerful. fwiw; I never accepted the comparisons with the Camaro...completely different cars, imo with only a pricepoint to share. 2 seater v 4 seater, V6 v. V8....The list goes on...

Well you have to concider the prices here. The Corvette is a good comparison for PERFORMANCE as far as grip and handling... but then you have to factor in the GTR.



The Z fits into a spot that GM doesnt have much for. They dont have a sports car that can compete with the Z for the 29k-37k price bracket...



As great as the Corvette is... its doesnt even START till 50k, a good 20k more than the Z.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

Well you have to concider the prices here. The Corvette is a good comparison for PERFORMANCE as far as grip and handling... but then you have to factor in the GTR.

The Z fits into a spot that GM doesnt have much for. They dont have a sports car that can compete with the Z for the 29k-37k price bracket...

As great as the Corvette is... its doesnt even START till 50k, a good 20k more than the Z.

No, you're right, and I realize all that...I guess my point got befuddled in everything else I said: People may cross-shop the 370z and Camaro SS...but they are NOT even remotely similar vehicles, and that needs to be understood, imo.

Keeping that in mind (), I think all of this discussion proves that the Camaro is the better vehicle. Of course I'm biased -- but the Camaro has to deal with almost 30% more heft, 2 extra seats, a larger engine, and a larger body in general. Even if it only manages to stay on the Nissan's tail -- that's exceptional. And makes it by far the better buy in terms of practicality v. performance. (again, imo) Fwiw; I expect it to be an outright driver's race.

[GatorBlue371]

I hear you...I think the ss should be faster but I think the body roll will kill it in the end. All things concidered the ss is the better buy but the Z does offer a driving expirience that is on par with Porsche.

[nester7929]

The Z is nice, but it's just not very practical. A good weekend car, but I need something that can double as a DD, hence why I am looking at Camaros and Challengers.

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by nester7929

The Z is nice, but it's just not very practical. A good weekend car, but I need something that can double as a DD, hence why I am looking at Camaros and Challengers.

As much as i'd like to agree with you, i have a Z as a DD right now and i love it.

Nothing like carving up the traffic before work

[lil_chef]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

What do you call the Corvette? The Nissan is just smaller, and less powerful. fwiw; I never accepted the comparisons with the Camaro...completely different cars, imo with only a pricepoint to share. 2 seater v 4 seater, V6 v. V8....The list goes on...

The corvette is in a class of its own....actually in a class with the 100k sports cars. the Z doesnt even compare to it. but your right, the vette is relatively affordable against what it competes with. i just dont see myself being able to afford one anytime soon.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

I hear you...I think the ss should be faster but I think the body roll will kill it in the end. All things concidered the ss is the better buy but the Z does offer a driving expirience that is on par with Porsche.

Yup...that's a concern.

*lightbulb*

Have you seen the video where the engineer IVER driver threw a prototype SS around Milford? I've never seen someone drive quite like that...anyways, he was tossing that car into TIGHT 360s, and turns....unless my eyes deceive me...very little (if any) body roll. I feel like whoever started that rumor/impression was overstating the fact by a sizable margin.

Still...suppose you're right and it handles like a Challenger - that's nothing $1000 worth of Pedder's merchandise can't fix.

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Yup...that's a concern.

*lightbulb*

Have you seen the video where the engineer IVER driver threw a prototype SS around Milford? I've never seen someone drive quite like that...anyways, he was tossing that car into TIGHT 360s, and turns....unless my eyes deceive me...very little (if any) body roll. I feel like whoever started that rumor/impression was overstating the fact by a sizable margin.

Still...suppose you're right and it handles like a Challenger - that's nothing $1000 worth of Pedder's merchandise can't fix.

Oh it will be better than the chally, but the source of MY concerns are a combination of Dale Jr. commenting specifically on the presance of body roll and the comparison of the G8 GXP and the Charger SRT where they made it known the G8 suffered from body roll.

[COPO_Chevy]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

Oh it will be better than the chally, but the source of MY concerns are a combination of Dale Jr. commenting specifically on the presance of body roll and the comparison of the G8 GXP and the Charger SRT where they made it known the G8 suffered from body roll.

Correct me if i am wrong, but i believe he test drove a car that was still in its youngish start in testing. Who knows, they may have(and imo probebly have) fixed the issue. Im not to overly worried about it. For what it is, the 370z is an ok car, ill give it credit here were its deserved. Still love my camaro though.

[GatorBlue371]

Originally Posted by COPO_Chevy

Correct me if i am wrong, but i believe he test drove a car that was still in its youngish start in testing. Who knows, they may have(and imo probebly have) fixed the issue. Im not to overly worried about it. For what it is, the 370z is an ok car, ill give it credit here were its deserved. Still love my camaro though.

The 370z is a GREAT car.




Why would they have Dale Jr. test drive a car that didn't accurately represent an accumulation of their efforts? Think about it, he's only gonna be there a hand full of times tops... So you mind as well give him a car that might have X wrong with it, which he can help with instead of a car with X, Y and Z wrong with it where there is too much for him to focus his efforts.


Plus i find it to be more than a coincidence that the G8 GXP (which rides on the same platform) suffers from body roll enough to make it a problem. I am anxiously waiting on the test from the SS, and really this is all speculation. But it would shock me to not find 'body roll' written in the test article somewhere.