NEW YEARS RESOLUTION WEIGHT LOSS THREAD

[CFD]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

okay, I feel like splitting a few hairs here. and definitely keeping this light and forward.

I was focusing on his "working out on an empty stomach' burns for more him he should continue this. Not only this, but he should wait at least an hour after his cardio before eating, this will keep his metabolism burning this excess fat/energy. Once he eats the first bite of food or has a PWO, his body is going to actually "click" into burning that just consumed food for energy. Goal here is to get rid of fat, and get healthy. With this goal in mind, I would continue what works for him. Now.. if we get to a point he can NOT do cardio in the morning due to low fuel/energy, then yes, time to prime the pump and hit the gym. But you can not do both, putting food into your system and hitting the gym will burn that food you just ate, not that fat tire around your waist..... not as fast. ...this is the splitting hair.

i totally agrre, if you read all the info I gave him cardio on an empty stomach taps into fat reserves for fuel, replacing what you just burned off is foolish, post workout drinks as I stated are for post workout (weight lifting) two entirely different things. A good dose of protein is always desireable within 20 min of weight lifting that's why they have post workout drinks alwys high in protein and fast acting simple carbs. I always distinguish between "cardio for fat loss" and "weight lifting" they both require different nutrition and timing. Usually (ask any body builder) and you can probabbly testify to this as well if you restrict carbs too long your workouts will normally suffer. Most bodybuilders,wrestlers boxers etc. get very efficient at burning fat for fuel that's why the seem to be able to bulk and cut instantely but normally increase cardio, reduce lifting and carbs simoutaneously, when they start lifting again up goes the carb intake and reduction in cardio. the average body cannot do this. Reducing fat with diet and especially carb restriction is fairly easy but you cannot build muscle like that so by using combined strategies you Can do both but you need to start with basics and taylor from there.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

That's exactly it right there.



I had to make major dietary changes to get mine down along with the red yeast rice. I cut out eggs and went to egg beaters, stuff like that. At my last physical I ran out of red yeast rice about 3 weeks before. I decided to wait and see what my chol was before getting more to see if maybe it was just something else. Nope, my chol shot back up to 238.

I'll go another year with the RYR and see where it's at my next phys. If it's still high I'll have to look in to the statins although I don't like meds at all.

Something a lot of people are misled on is that dietary colesterol such as found in eggs has not been proven to greatly affect the bodies colesterol levels, two fifferent animals.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by CFD

i totally agrre, if you read all the info I gave him cardio on an empty stomach taps into fat reserves for fuel, replacing what you just burned off is foolish, post workout drinks as I stated are for post workout (weight lifting) two entirely different things. A good dose of protein is always desireable within 20 min of weight lifting that's why they have post workout drinks alwys high in protein and fast acting simple carbs. I always distinguish between "cardio for fat loss" and "weight lifting" they both require different nutrition and timing. Usually (ask any body builder) and you can probabbly testify to this as well if you restrict carbs too long your workouts will normally suffer. Most bodybuilders,wrestlers boxers etc. get very efficient at burning fat for fuel that's why the seem to be able to bulk and cut instantely but normally increase cardio, reduce lifting and carbs simoutaneously, when they start lifting again up goes the carb intake and reduction in cardio. the average body cannot do this. Reducing fat with diet and especially carb restriction is fairly easy but you cannot build muscle like that so by using combined strategies you Can do both but you need to start with basics and taylor from there.

great, I was probably reading more into it and wasn't as clear as I needed, my fault.. Thanks CFD!! Just wanted to make sure we all had the same understanding. We all good... nothing to see here, everyone move along!


And speedy, I was on RYR for 3 months and it didn't do a thang for me.. it was frustrating to be on a restricted, clean diet for 6 months and it didn't make a difference. Now if it had made a difference, the 6 months of healthy eating would have felt like a win!

[Bonnie]

Originally Posted by PQ

My diet............

2 bone plain chicken tacos. (chicken, lettuce, tamato, corn soft tortilla) At lunchtime.

Popcorn at night.

Coffee, Coffee, Coffee................................. And a coke in there.


Pretty simple.

Originally Posted by hrpiii

That's my diet, but I do mt. dew and not coke.. and no diet mt dew either, I want the sugar and all the glory taste that comes with it. Matter of fact, I just had taco bell for lunch

You do realize thats not just one meal for Randy.......thats the whole day! Thats all he eats!

[Speedy1975]

There's this huge guy that comes in to the gym I go to. Nice guy and he's like 6'5 and he's gotta be 300lbs. First time I saw him I thought dang I bet he was a body builder at one time. You know big forearms but a gut.

Well, about 12 weeks later I see this guy in the locker room and he is shredded with nice round full muscle definition. He won 1st place in August show around here last year. I think he told me he dropped like 40lbs for the show. INSANE. So yeah I guess they do get used to it and their bodies adjust to it over the years.

I'm lucky in that I can lose weight pretty easy it seems. I just have to be careful not to let it go too fast. Last time I did the keto full on for 12 weeks and I dropped to like 7.8% BF but I didn't like the way I looked. Too much like a runner rather than beefy.

I figure I'll go with what I'm doing for now, then hit the keto diet at the very end if needed to get that last little bit. We'll see. I'm not going to compete or anything, this is just for fun.

I haven't felt too bad on the diet. I am a bit more tired later in the day but that's to be expected dropping calories. At the gym I do fine, but I was a Marine and just mentally turn off any distractions from the goal. Muscles aren't cramping or doing anything weird like that so I figure I'm good. If I start to get muscle cramps or have issues I'll adjust as needed.

The BB guy at the gym said he like OxyELite and Diamon X7 for cutting. You guys tried any of that kind of stuff? I've never needed anything like that but wanted to have something in mind just in case.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

great, I was probably reading more into it and wasn't as clear as I needed, my fault.. Thanks CFD!! Just wanted to make sure we all had the same understanding. We all good... nothing to see here, everyone move along!


And speedy, I was on RYR for 3 months and it didn't do a thang for me.. it was frustrating to be on a restricted, clean diet for 6 months and it didn't make a difference. Now if it had made a difference, the 6 months of healthy eating would have felt like a win!

The above op is a difficult one to make recomendations to and this is why I say this, he is trying to achieve two different goals at once, he is looking to loose body fat and trying to gain muscle at the same time yet is 5'10" and weighs 163 lbs. if his body fat level readings are correct he is what they call fat skinny people, the hardest to deal with.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

There's this huge guy that comes in to the gym I go to. Nice guy and he's like 6'5 and he's gotta be 300lbs. First time I saw him I thought dang I bet he was a body builder at one time. You know big forearms but a gut.

Well, about 12 weeks later I see this guy in the locker room and he is shredded with nice round full muscle definition. He won 1st place in August show around here last year. I think he told me he dropped like 40lbs for the show. INSANE. So yeah I guess they do get used to it and their bodies adjust to it over the years.

I'm lucky in that I can lose weight pretty easy it seems. I just have to be careful not to let it go too fast. Last time I did the keto full on for 12 weeks and I dropped to like 7.8% BF but I didn't like the way I looked. Too much like a runner rather than beefy.

I figure I'll go with what I'm doing for now, then hit the keto diet at the very end if needed to get that last little bit. We'll see. I'm not going to compete or anything, this is just for fun.

I haven't felt too bad on the diet. I am a bit more tired later in the day but that's to be expected dropping calories. At the gym I do fine, but I was a Marine and just mentally turn off any distractions from the goal. Muscles aren't cramping or doing anything weird like that so I figure I'm good. If I start to get muscle cramps or have issues I'll adjust as needed.

The BB guy at the gym said he like OxyELite and Diamon X7 for cutting. You guys tried any of that kind of stuff? I've never needed anything like that but wanted to have something in mind just in case.

I am not big on most suplements, I honestly think if you eat clean balanced meals and time them properly, find what maintains your current weight levels and adjust using the 500min. - 1000max. cal defificit rule you can cut and bulk properly. In most scientific studies the only proven supplements for cutting was a product which everyone is familliar with (there WERE others by different names) was hydroxicut. Now, the hydroxicut on the market is not the same, it was banned along with others years ago by th FDA. The original formula's were bassically effedrine and caffein, If I remeber right the most effective doses were 20mg effedrine to 200mg caffein. It was proven effective and is still used, you can no longer buy effedrine but you can buy decongestions that contain it. Some of the reasons for it's ban were risks because of it raising blood pressure and related type issues as well as the fact it can be used for manufacturing meth.

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by CFD

The above op is a difficult one to make recomendations to and this is why I say this, he is trying to achieve two different goals at once, he is looking to loose body fat and trying to gain muscle at the same time yet is 5'10" and weighs 163 lbs. if his body fat level readings are correct he is what they call fat skinny people, the hardest to deal with.

To clarify, I don't expect to gain muscle during cutting. I just want to prevent as much loss as possible. I focus on gaining as much muscle as I can in the fall/winter when I eat like a horse.

I use an Omron BF monitor to check my BF % once a week on Monday. The place I get my physicals turned me on to it. They said it was within .1% accurate of their body scan machine that cost thousands based on the patients they'd compared it on. Even if it's not exact as long as it's moving in the right direction I don't sweat it too bad. I set it to my height and weight and to "athlete" since I'm not typical couch potato.

[Speedy1975]

Yeah they always seem to ban the good stuff. I found a product back in 2006 that rocked. I gained 12 - 15 lbs of pure muscle over a 6 week period and dropped body fat at the same time. No fatigue at the gym what so ever and strength went through the roof. Not so coincidentally that is when I started having joint problems. I got all excited with the extra strength and pushed it too far, but the stuff flat worked. I just should have taken it a bit easier on the weight.

The only side effect I had was some muscle cramps and back pumps in my sleep. Bananas solved both problems and I upped my water intake. I did have to take some add'l supplements after I finished it though to level things out as it were.

Of course, it too is now banned.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

To clarify, I don't expect to gain muscle during cutting. I just want to prevent as much loss as possible. I focus on gaining as much muscle as I can in the fall/winter when I eat like a horse.

I use an Omron BF monitor to check my BF % once a week on Monday. The place I get my physicals turned me on to it. They said it was within .1% accurate of their body scan machine that cost thousands based on the patients they'd compared it on. Even if it's not exact as long as it's moving in the right direction I don't sweat it too bad. I set it to my height and weight and to "athlete" since I'm not typical couch potato.

This is exactly the problem, in the winter you try to bulk by eating like a horse and I am quite sure your food choices are not ideal so you put on fat then go to the other extreme when trying to cut as you are now, I'm am still confident that if you eat balanced meals and adjust cal intake accordingly you will bulk gainning more muscle less fat, and cut retaining more muscle and loosing more fat. Things like the keto diet you keep mentioning are not for normal cutting, they are almost exclusively used by body builders and onle for 3-4 weeks running pre contest.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by Bonnie

You do realize thats not just one meal for Randy.......thats the whole day! Thats all he eats!

yeah, I figured that...lol. Tonight will be steak and sweet potato for me after a hard leg workout.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Bonnie

You do realize thats not just one meal for Randy.......thats the whole day! Thats all he eats!

Eeeeeyyyup. And it works.

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by CFD

This is exactly the problem, in the winter you try to bulk by eating like a horse and I am quite sure your food choices are not ideal so you put on fat then go to the other extreme when trying to cut as you are now, I'm am still confident that if you eat balanced meals and adjust cal intake accordingly you will bulk gainning more muscle less fat, and cut retaining more muscle and loosing more fat. Things like the keto diet you keep mentioning are not for normal cutting, they are almost exclusively used by body builders and onle for 3-4 weeks running pre contest.

Well, I only ever max out at 12.9 ish BF% on that little doo dad. My bulking diet has a lot of meat in it like 6oz of flank steak just about everyday for lunch, almonds, oats, lots more ON Whey, etc. I do cheat more in winter, but like I said my BF never goes up a whole lot. Just is what it is I guess. Most I've ever been able to weigh was 178 but I was so sick of eating.

[CFD]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

yeah, I figured that...lol. Tonight will be steak and sweet potato for me after a hard leg workout.

Same result different foods, here's why, steak high quality protein with plenty of amino's, baked potato high GI carb, very typical for body builders and weight lifters

ON Whey protein high quality protein, maltidextrose or other simple carb high GI same result but less calories if bulking. I myself always use a post workout shake followed by a solid mealf protein and carbs.