GM turns down $3B Loan from Canada - Page 3

t3chfr3ak · 01-25-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kylepo

ok so you are one of those. You do realize when GM cut that about 100 people lost their good paying jobs???

I dont get you. Whats your point! Are you happy 100 people lost their jobs and CEO kept their jets? I dont understand where you stand in all this.

kylepo · 01-25-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by t3chfr3ak

I dont get you. Whats your point! Are you happy 100 people lost their jobs and CEO kept their jets? I dont understand where you stand in all this.

???? they lost their jets because they got blasted by all of our politicians. and then because of this their were 100 people out on their asses. I just find it ironic that all the politicians that blasted them pretty much caused 100 people to lose their jobs.

RT21 · 01-25-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Depending on the situation, it could very well be that the CEO in question knows too much about the company to replace him/her on a whim and expect to survive.
But I'll assume you're not talking about Wagoner...hate to get into that discussion again.

Nope...was talking about the clowns (CEOs) that got the original buy out of $700 billion. Paper pushers that really don't have a job. I'm all for helping out people that have workers that actually work.

Off topic, so will chill now...

*CamaroSpike23* · 01-25-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kylepo

???? they lost their jets because they got blasted by all of our politicians. and then because of this their were 100 people out on their asses. I just find it ironic that all the politicians that blasted them pretty much caused 100 people to lose their jobs.

but no one says a word about the politicians who have their own private jets and get paid how much a year? tho Obama's working on that right now.

I find it funny that our own gov has nearly drowned this country the way it has. the gov should have a fear of its people, not the other way around.

Blizzard · 01-25-2009, 09:29 PM

Ok so i haven't really posted in here for a few months.

Is it so wrong for a person who has worked hard all their life to get to the top to still be making millions of dollars? Do any of you know what kind of stress CEO's go through? The average worker works from 9-5 and goes home, but the life of a CEO is not that way. Every hour of the day and night is spent working, I know some of you will say, "well what about when he takes a vacation or goes out to eat somewhere high price," that man/woman is still working, trying to make his company better.

Now when it comes to Unions, there once was a time when you needed them and in some places you still do, but for the most part many union members need a union just to fight the union they are in. Many unions have just grown to big and now only the higher ups benefit while the low end workers are left suffering when the company starts to go down.

Silver Streak · 01-25-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kylepo

are you people oblivious to what is going on at GM and all the cuts they have made?????????again will the stupid union people give up their paychecks until the company is again profitable?? they pissed and moaned when they lost their jobs bank. And I think scott is probably doing by him self the work of probably 3 or 4 people and he works crazy hours, he said when they were setting up for NAIAS he was getting like 2 hours of sleep. Any union people willing to do that???? didnt think so.

ok excuse me they are working for a dollar each. because they have to be paid something. Lets see if any union worker will even worker for 10 dollars an hour let alone 1 dollar a year.

Just one question? Do you work for $10 an hour and if so, are you surviving?

kylepo · 01-25-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Streak

Just one question? Do you work for $10 an hour and if so, are you surviving?

For one thing when my dad was paying me I got less than minimum wage. I would ask for a commission when I sold a car and he would say I will buy you dinner tonight. But now I don’t take a check when I work. And I’m not a Union member who has been dragging down GM for years, and continue to do so.

kylepo · 01-25-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blizzard

Ok so i haven't really posted in here for a few months.

Is it so wrong for a person who has worked hard all their life to get to the top to still be making millions of dollars? Do any of you know what kind of stress CEO's go through? The average worker works from 9-5 and goes home, but the life of a CEO is not that way. Every hour of the day and night is spent working, I know some of you will say, "well what about when he takes a vacation or goes out to eat somewhere high price," that man/woman is still working, trying to make his company better.

Now when it comes to Unions, there once was a time when you needed them and in some places you still do, but for the most part many union members need a union just to fight the union they are in. Many unions have just grown to big and now only the higher ups benefit while the low end workers are left suffering when the company starts to go down.

you know I dont think I could of said it any better myself.

Kelster · 01-25-2009, 10:51 PM

This thread is Epic

FenwickHockey65 · 01-25-2009, 10:54 PM

The unions USED to be a good thing. Not anymore. When GM fires a guy for a lack of productivity but is forced to rehire him a week later by the union, you know there's a problem.

Believe me guys, my dad has seen it all. The union does protect workers against things like unfair wages, but for the most part, it's become nothing more than a refuge for people who like to complain about the dumbest things.

Example: At Norwood Assembly, the union requested that GM provide some floormats for the assembly line workers. GM agreed, but the floormats were delayed for some reason. The union actually decided to strike over floormats. The lazy guys walked off the line, my dad and the majority of people there laughed and kept working.

kylepo · 01-25-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

The unions USED to be a good thing. Not anymore. When GM fires a guy for a lack of productivity but is forced to rehire him a week later by the union, you know there's a problem.

Believe me guys, my dad has seen it all. The union does protect workers against things like unfair wages, but for the most part, it's become nothing more than a refuge for people who like to complain about the dumbest things.

Example: At Norwood Assembly, the union requested that GM provide some floormats for the assembly line workers. GM agreed, but the floormats were delayed for some reason. The union actually decided to strike over floormats. The lazy guys walked off the line, my dad and the majority of people there laughed and kept working.

t3chfr3ak · 01-25-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kylepo

For one thing when my dad was paying me I got less than minimum wage. I would ask for a commission when I sold a car and he would say I will buy you dinner tonight. But now I don’t take a check when I work. And I’m not a Union member who has been dragging down GM for years, and continue to do so.

Man you are really ignorant. What is your gripe with the unions and your leniency towards CEOs? Who do your think runs GM? Oh wait you are a car salesman. That explaines everything.

kylepo · 01-25-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by t3chfr3ak

Man you are really ignorant. What is your gripe with the unions and your leniency towards CEOs? Who do your think runs GM? Oh wait you are a car salesman. That explaines everything.

ceos are educated. They work to get where they are. The deserve whatever pay they can get them self’s key word get them SELFS. Do you see any CEOs striking when they don’t get what they want??? Nope the ceos get what they want by working hard and moving up the ranks. Not picketing when they don’t get paid to drink beer and watch TV when they are laid off. And I’m not really a car salesman only sold a few cars.

Silver Streak · 01-25-2009, 11:35 PM

Your saying some pretty harsh things about working class people! I am not in the union myself, and I know in every crowd there are bad apples. You seem insistant on that all people in the union are lazy, and don't deserve the wages and benefits they are paid. I think that there are people who are not in the union that fit this category as well. But I also know without a union that there just may not be a middle class. Without the union I would not be paid what I am, and I am not in the union. So yes there are bad apples in every crowd, but please be careful before stereotyping, some of those people are hard working people and have earned every penny they recieve, and that would be an honest days wages, a living.

"ceos are educated. They work to get where they are. The deserve whatever pay they can get them self’s key word get them SELFS. Do you see any CEOs striking when they don’t get what they want??? Nope the ceos get what they want by working hard and moving up the ranks. Not picketing when they don’t get paid to drink beer and watch TV when they are laid off. And I’m not really a car salesman only sold a few cars. "

01-25-2009, 09:29 PM	#33
Blizzard Searching for the truth Drives: 85 K-10, 13 1LE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 636 View My Garage	Ok so i haven't really posted in here for a few months. Is it so wrong for a person who has worked hard all their life to get to the top to still be making millions of dollars? Do any of you know what kind of stress CEO's go through? The average worker works from 9-5 and goes home, but the life of a CEO is not that way. Every hour of the day and night is spent working, I know some of you will say, "well what about when he takes a vacation or goes out to eat somewhere high price," that man/woman is still working, trying to make his company better. Now when it comes to Unions, there once was a time when you needed them and in some places you still do, but for the most part many union members need a union just to fight the union they are in. Many unions have just grown to big and now only the higher ups benefit while the low end workers are left suffering when the company starts to go down. __________________ 2013 1LE 1SS RS TPW 4/29

01-25-2009, 10:51 PM	#37
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01-25-2009, 10:54 PM	#38
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	The unions USED to be a good thing. Not anymore. When GM fires a guy for a lack of productivity but is forced to rehire him a week later by the union, you know there's a problem. Believe me guys, my dad has seen it all. The union does protect workers against things like unfair wages, but for the most part, it's become nothing more than a refuge for people who like to complain about the dumbest things. Example: At Norwood Assembly, the union requested that GM provide some floormats for the assembly line workers. GM agreed, but the floormats were delayed for some reason. The union actually decided to strike over floormats. The lazy guys walked off the line, my dad and the majority of people there laughed and kept working. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)

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Silver Streak Drives: 2008 Cobalt SS/TC Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Smyrna Bch. Florida Posts: 1,449 View My Garage	Your saying some pretty harsh things about working class people! I am not in the union myself, and I know in every crowd there are bad apples. You seem insistant on that all people in the union are lazy, and don't deserve the wages and benefits they are paid. I think that there are people who are not in the union that fit this category as well. But I also know without a union that there just may not be a middle class. Without the union I would not be paid what I am, and I am not in the union. So yes there are bad apples in every crowd, but please be careful before stereotyping, some of those people are hard working people and have earned every penny they recieve, and that would be an honest days wages, a living. "ceos are educated. They work to get where they are. The deserve whatever pay they can get them self’s key word get them SELFS. Do you see any CEOs striking when they don’t get what they want??? Nope the ceos get what they want by working hard and moving up the ranks. Not picketing when they don’t get paid to drink beer and watch TV when they are laid off. And I’m not really a car salesman only sold a few cars. "