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Old 01-23-2009, 09:41 PM   #43
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Until I see a video of a Camaro ripping around a track like that with at least as much tire smoke pouring out, I guess I'll go over to Hyundai... hint hint.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:46 PM   #44
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this looks like a tiburon... its $23K-30K... I wouldn't pay more than 20K for it, it doesn't look that expensive
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Old 01-24-2009, 07:30 PM   #45
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What I REALLY like about this car is the availability of the track package, with real performance upgrades, on both I4 and V6 models. The one thing the Camaro lacks is factory performance stuff to compliment the fantastic V6 offered.
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Old 01-24-2009, 11:45 PM   #46
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What I REALLY like about this car is the availability of the track package, with real performance upgrades, on both I4 and V6 models. The one thing the Camaro lacks is factory performance stuff to compliment the fantastic V6 offered.
What is this track package? I think the Camaro V6 has some things offered standard already that make up for some of the things that's offered for the Genesis, maybe? I don't know much about the Genesis but it's a nice ride but I don't think I'd ever want to own a Hyundai.

Maybe my opinions will change once I see an increase of sales due to reliability and safety.
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Old 01-24-2009, 11:57 PM   #47
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What is this track package? I think the Camaro V6 has some things offered standard already that make up for some of the things that's offered for the Genesis, maybe? I don't know much about the Genesis but it's a nice ride but I don't think I'd ever want to own a Hyundai.

Maybe my opinions will change once I see an increase of sales due to reliability and safety.
Well they came up in that category very well
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:16 AM   #48
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They have in initial quality but haven't heard positive things about quality & dependability.

Initial quality is as follows

http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/relia.../glossary.html

I would buy a Toyota or Honda over a Hyudai even if it did not have that higher horsepower because Toyota and Honda have built a reputation on quality for years and you still see a vast majority of them on the road dating back to the early 80's. I know what's going to happen, pretty soon Hyundai will be up there and you'll see more of them on the road for much longer. They just haven't got me set on buying one yet.
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:29 AM   #49
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The Track Package has a retuned suspension, larger wheels with better tires, Brembo brakes, and a strut tower brace. So an equivalent for the Camaro would be offering the SS's Brembos and FE3 suspension, the RS wheels, and some other small mods. I'd buy that.
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:35 AM   #50
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The Track Package has a retuned suspension, larger wheels with better tires, Brembo brakes, and a strut tower brace. So an equivalent for the Camaro would be offering the SS's Brembos and FE3 suspension, the RS wheels, and some other small mods. I'd buy that.
How does that retuned suspension compare to the stock setup on the Camaro V6?

These specs are also found on the production spec sheet found here:
http://www.5thgen.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7001

Front Suspension:
double-ball-joint, multi-link strut; direct-acting stabilizer bar; progressive-rate coil springs; fully adjustable camber, caster and toe

Rear Suspension:
4.5-link independent; progressive-rate coil springs over shocks; stabilizer bar; fully adjustable camber and toe

Steering Type: variable-ratio rack-and-pinion
Steering Ratio: 16.1:1
Steering Wheel turns, lock to lock: 2.5
Turning Circle: 37.7ft / 11.5m

Brakes

Type: four-wheel disc w/ ABS; ventilated front and rear rotors
V6 Calipers: single-piston front calipers and single-piston alloy rear calipers
V8 Calipers: four-piston fixed Brembo aluminum front and rear calipers

V6 Rotor Dimensions - Diameter x Thickness
Front: 12.64" x 1.18" / 321mm x 30mm
Rear: 12.4" x 0.9" / 315mm x 23mm

V8 Rotor Dimensions - Diameter x Thickness
Front: 14" x 1.26" / 355mm x 32mm
Rear: 14.4" x 1.1" / 365mm x 28mm
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What I REALLY like about this car is the availability of the track package, with real performance upgrades, on both I4 and V6 models. The one thing the Camaro lacks is factory performance stuff to compliment the fantastic V6 offered.
for what it's worth, the V6 has the same suspension setup as the G8 GT...
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Old 01-28-2009, 01:20 PM   #52
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They have in initial quality but haven't heard positive things about quality & dependability.

Initial quality is as follows

http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/relia.../glossary.html

Really? That's interesting because this latest survey says otherwise.





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