Car and Driver's 2011 10 Best - Page 4

Bonanza7 · 11-25-2010, 08:13 AM

dragoneye...maybe a Volt is what the tech junkies want, but I will stick to a good old gas burner.

Bonanza7 · 11-25-2010, 08:15 AM

King Sun...A few years ago, C& D raved about the Solstice, then a year or so later trashed it as a useless car that should never have been built. The folks at C&D are bi-polar.

greenrail · 11-25-2010, 10:10 AM

Sorry, I have to disagree. The VOLT is a game changer. Today's Chicago Tribune is reporting that the Volt will have an EPA Rating of 60 MPG overall, which is higher than the Prius. The Nissan Leaf is rated at 73 MPG equivalent overall.

Not too shabby GM! Time to kick some competition butt!

What I feel we need to understand is that this is a glimpse into our motoring future. Like I have said before, this change is inevitable. Even Porsche and Audi are cracking into the High Performancee Hybrid game. It will be a matter of time, before we, whether we like it or not, will be looking inthis direction. That's why Porsche ran their new ALMS Hybrid car at Road Atlanta this fall.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am tickled to death with my Camaro. I like high performance automobiles. That's why I have a 300C for a daily driver. But the future is going to be significantly different than today.

Actually, think about it a bit. Having a hot car that gets 50-60 MPG and can do a quarter mile in less than 13 seconds, isn't all that much of an unpleasant idea to ponder.

I really hope that GM, will push the technology envelop. We as a Nation, have to we can't continue to think that we will need to rely on foreign energy sources forever.

Enjoy today's cars for what they are. The future will be radically different in many ways.

Sc0rPs · 11-25-2010, 06:16 PM

Well I seldom let anyone else decide what is good or bad (safety issues aside of course), I got my Camaro because it is the best.

ViperTomcat · 11-25-2010, 08:52 PM

Just wait until the Z/28 or whatever its going to be called comes out and C&D raves about it..suddenly it'll be a fine automotive journal and deserving of praise.

motorhead · 11-25-2010, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenrail

Sorry, I have to disagree. The VOLT is a game changer. Today's Chicago Tribune is reporting that the Volt will have an EPA Rating of 60 MPG overall, which is higher than the Prius. The Nissan Leaf is rated at 73 MPG equivalent overall.

Not too shabby GM! Time to kick some competition butt!

What I feel we need to understand is that this is a glimpse into our motoring future. Like I have said before, this change is inevitable. Even Porsche and Audi are cracking into the High Performancee Hybrid game. It will be a matter of time, before we, whether we like it or not, will be looking inthis direction. That's why Porsche ran their new ALMS Hybrid car at Road Atlanta this fall.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am tickled to death with my Camaro. I like high performance automobiles. That's why I have a 300C for a daily driver. But the future is going to be significantly different than today.

Actually, think about it a bit. Having a hot car that gets 50-60 MPG and can do a quarter mile in less than 13 seconds, isn't all that much of an unpleasant idea to ponder.

I really hope that GM, will push the technology envelop. We as a Nation, have to we can't continue to think that we will need to rely on foreign energy sources forever.

Enjoy today's cars for what they are. The future will be radically different in many ways.

I hate to tell you ,but the volt still relies on foreign energy. Those batteries need materials that are not found in the us. I don't see a battery powered car as being the wave of the future. It's just a different country that we will depend on for our energy. Plus to pay 40 grand for a car that's get 60mpg vs buying a 20grand car that get almost 40mpg just doesn't add up. You can buy a lot of gas for 20grand.

ViperTomcat · 11-25-2010, 08:56 PM

I'm unsure how much of a game changer the Volt is going to be at 40,000 bucks.

khabboub · 11-25-2010, 09:25 PM

lets be honest guys, thats a nice ass picture though.

ObseSSed · 11-25-2010, 10:11 PM

It may not be Car and Drivers top 10 (they always favored Mustang). But Camaro continues to be the crowd pleaser. I get admiring comments all the time. The Mustang 5.0 is a head turner for those who are looking.

2010 Bumblebee · 11-25-2010, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeSS

idk why you would get disappoint, the mustang is the new king... plain and simple.. we were last year

We will get the crown back in 2012 !

11-25-2010, 10:10 AM	#45
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,392	Sorry, I have to disagree. The VOLT is a game changer. Today's Chicago Tribune is reporting that the Volt will have an EPA Rating of 60 MPG overall, which is higher than the Prius. The Nissan Leaf is rated at 73 MPG equivalent overall. Not too shabby GM! Time to kick some competition butt! What I feel we need to understand is that this is a glimpse into our motoring future. Like I have said before, this change is inevitable. Even Porsche and Audi are cracking into the High Performancee Hybrid game. It will be a matter of time, before we, whether we like it or not, will be looking inthis direction. That's why Porsche ran their new ALMS Hybrid car at Road Atlanta this fall. Now, don't get me wrong, I am tickled to death with my Camaro. I like high performance automobiles. That's why I have a 300C for a daily driver. But the future is going to be significantly different than today. Actually, think about it a bit. Having a hot car that gets 50-60 MPG and can do a quarter mile in less than 13 seconds, isn't all that much of an unpleasant idea to ponder. I really hope that GM, will push the technology envelop. We as a Nation, have to we can't continue to think that we will need to rely on foreign energy sources forever. Enjoy today's cars for what they are. The future will be radically different in many ways. __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

11-25-2010, 10:11 PM	#51
ObseSSed Drives: 2SS/RS M6 RJT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 195	It may not be Car and Drivers top 10 (they always favored Mustang). But Camaro continues to be the crowd pleaser. I get admiring comments all the time. The Mustang 5.0 is a head turner for those who are looking. __________________ [SIZE=1]2SS/RS/MN6/RJT/Beige/Sun Roof

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11-25-2010, 08:13 AM	#43
Bonanza7 Account Suspended Drives: 2010, Rally Yellow, Black stripes Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,363	dragoneye...maybe a Volt is what the tech junkies want, but I will stick to a good old gas burner.

11-25-2010, 08:15 AM	#44
Bonanza7 Account Suspended Drives: 2010, Rally Yellow, Black stripes Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,363	King Sun...A few years ago, C& D raved about the Solstice, then a year or so later trashed it as a useless car that should never have been built. The folks at C&D are bi-polar.

11-25-2010, 06:16 PM	#46
Sc0rPs Drives: 2010 2LT / RS - 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Vancouver Posts: 519	Well I seldom let anyone else decide what is good or bad (safety issues aside of course), I got my Camaro because it is the best.

11-25-2010, 08:52 PM	#47
ViperTomcat Banned Drives: 2011 Avenger Heat Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,697	Just wait until the Z/28 or whatever its going to be called comes out and C&D raves about it..suddenly it'll be a fine automotive journal and deserving of praise.

11-25-2010, 08:56 PM	#49
ViperTomcat Banned Drives: 2011 Avenger Heat Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,697	I'm unsure how much of a game changer the Volt is going to be at 40,000 bucks.

11-25-2010, 09:25 PM	#50
khabboub Tampa Gulf Coast Family Drives: Sold c7, in the market! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,250	lets be honest guys, thats a nice ass picture though.