Car and Driver's 2011 10 Best - Page 2

Bonanza7 · 11-23-2010, 06:37 PM

Shift--- the Fit, (I happen to own a 2010 Fit Sport as my grocery getter), handles like a go cart, has incredible versatility and gets 36 mpg in town and 40 on the highway. In addition, it is rock solid and reliable. That is why it is on the list. Best is not only about speed.

Fraxum · 11-23-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shift

How could you possibly expect it to make a list like that when its up against such bad ass cars as the Volt, Fit and Golf

Now that is funny!

bluetooth-ss · 11-23-2010, 06:51 PM

We'll be back on top when the Z-28 comes out. Every one needs to take what some of these mags say with a grain of salt and move on.

a_Username · 11-23-2010, 06:55 PM

Volt has this on lock.

Fraxum · 11-23-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza7

Face it, the Mustangs, while not a totally new body, are lighter, faster, handle better and are cheaper. What part of that would not compute in their ratings. That said, Car and Driver is not exactly an impartial judge of much of anything.

Not cheaper. Comparing my 2SS to an equivalent Mustang, the Mustang was over $1K more.

Lighter true, my biggest knock on the SS. But faster and handle better are splitting hairs. Compare an SS to a non-Brembo Mustang 5.0 and the handling superiority becomes less clear.

The 5.0 is a little faster than an SS, but the difference is not the same as the clear difference between the 2010 SS and 2010 Mustang GT.

I looked hard at both 2011s. Both were comparable.

Liked the SS better. Happy.

I like reading C&D. Other than the boring Automobile, it is the best written car magazine. I will continue to subscribe.

Shift · 11-23-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza7

Shift--- the Fit, (I happen to own a 2010 Fit Sport as my grocery getter), handles like a go cart, has incredible versatility and gets 36 mpg in town and 40 on the highway. In addition, it is rock solid and reliable. That is why it is on the list. Best is not only about speed.

I wasn't implying anything was based on speed, I was implying its gay

Fraxum · 11-23-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VonDutch

Car and Driver has become Anti-America
And will always favor the Imports
Thus I will let the Asians and Euros abroad Support their Magazine
I will never ever subscribe to their Mag ever again
Also remember they are an Authority on NOTHING
There is much better mags out there these days
& Their days are numbered at Car and Driver
And I'm Counting

Why the hate? I see a few US cars in the top 10.

ron10 · 11-23-2010, 07:11 PM

my SS will make my list every year.

v6sonoma · 11-23-2010, 07:13 PM

10 best requires something significant be changed. HUD wasn't enough. Mustang had two new engines replace a boat anchor and a older V8 and new transmissions.

motorhead · 11-23-2010, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonDutch

Car and Driver has become Anti-America

And will always favor the Imports

Thus I will let the Asians and Euros abroad Support their Magazine

I will never ever subscribe to their Mag ever again

Also remember they are an Authority on NOTHING

There is much better mags out there these days

& Their days are numbered at Car and Driver

And I'm Counting

Since Car and Driver sucks so bad then I guess the corvette shouldn't have been on the list in 2009 and other years before or the many times that caddy has made the list must be a joke too. If you build a good enough car you'll make the list. The camaro just isn't up to stuff this year. Maybe next year.

Shift · 11-23-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by v6sonoma

10 best requires something significant be changed. HUD wasn't enough. Mustang had two new engines replace a boat anchor and a older V8 and new transmissions.

I dont think thats really the case

Below is the list of Car and Driver's 10Best Cars for 2011:

BMW 3-series/M3
Cadillac CTS-V
Chevrolet Volt
Ford Mustang GT
Honda Accord
Honda Fit
Hyundai Sonata
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Porsche Boxster/Cayman
Volkswagen Golf/GTI

2010 Car and Driver 10Best Cars:

2010 Audi S4
2010 BMW 3 Series / M3
2010 Cadillac CTS / CTS-V
2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid
2010 Honda Accord
2010 Honda Fit
2010 Mazda Miata MX-5
2010 Mazda3 / MazdaSpeed3
2010 Porsche Boxster / Cayman
2010 Volkswagen GTI

Bonanza7 · 11-23-2010, 10:13 PM

Shift...I admit the Fit may look a little wierd to us Yanks, but it is a damn fine car, and they sell every one they can make. Absolutely reliable and bullet proof. Sport mode on the auto, like the Camaro, even though the Camaro calls it M. Real paddle shifters and virtually no depreciation. A whole lot slower than the Camaro, however. (A WHOLE LOT!)

KEEP RT · 11-23-2010, 10:24 PM

at least GM has 2. Ford 1.

Jayson9 · 11-24-2010, 08:26 AM

IMHO, 2 big reasons why the Camaro's did not make the list:
1. All of the known (hopefully early) issues posted all over the web - kinda scary!
2. GM's bail out (Ford did it own its own).

I like my Camaro SS, but I do admit I feel like I am taking a risk with GM, considering the above.

11-23-2010, 07:13 PM	#23
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	10 best requires something significant be changed. HUD wasn't enough. Mustang had two new engines replace a boat anchor and a older V8 and new transmissions. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

11-23-2010, 10:24 PM	#27
KEEP RT Wonderfully Awful Idea Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Battle Ground, WA Posts: 1,456 View My Garage	at least GM has 2. Ford 1. __________________

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11-23-2010, 06:37 PM	#15
Bonanza7 Account Suspended Drives: 2010, Rally Yellow, Black stripes Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,363	Shift--- the Fit, (I happen to own a 2010 Fit Sport as my grocery getter), handles like a go cart, has incredible versatility and gets 36 mpg in town and 40 on the highway. In addition, it is rock solid and reliable. That is why it is on the list. Best is not only about speed.

11-23-2010, 06:51 PM	#17
bluetooth-ss Drives: 2010 ABM 2SS/RS A6 and 2018 2500 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 2,069	We'll be back on top when the Z-28 comes out. Every one needs to take what some of these mags say with a grain of salt and move on.

11-23-2010, 06:55 PM	#18
a_Username Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 3,890 View My Garage	Volt has this on lock.

11-23-2010, 07:11 PM	#22
ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,545	my SS will make my list every year.

11-23-2010, 10:13 PM	#26
Bonanza7 Account Suspended Drives: 2010, Rally Yellow, Black stripes Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,363	Shift...I admit the Fit may look a little wierd to us Yanks, but it is a damn fine car, and they sell every one they can make. Absolutely reliable and bullet proof. Sport mode on the auto, like the Camaro, even though the Camaro calls it M. Real paddle shifters and virtually no depreciation. A whole lot slower than the Camaro, however. (A WHOLE LOT!)

11-24-2010, 08:26 AM	#28
Jayson9 Drives: 2SS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 253	IMHO, 2 big reasons why the Camaro's did not make the list: 1. All of the known (hopefully early) issues posted all over the web - kinda scary! 2. GM's bail out (Ford did it own its own). I like my Camaro SS, but I do admit I feel like I am taking a risk with GM, considering the above.