Would you rather have a ZR1 or blown Z06?

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

a modded zo6 because getting a zr1 is like "hey man check out my zr1" yea i know man its sweet my boss has one too. but the modded zo6 would be like hey man check out my zo6 with this and this and this.... yea try findin 2 zo6 from 2 totally different ppl and see if they have the exact same mods.

A ZR1 is unique as is and who says you can't mode a ZR1? If one has the money to buy a ZR1, $ for modding it is not an issue.

[lil_red_v6]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

A ZR1 is unique as is and who says you can't mode a ZR1? If one has the money to buy a ZR1, $ for modding it is not an issue.

true but when the zr1 came out didnt they say it was going to be almost impossible to mod it. whats left to do nitrous and a more aggressive cam? how think are the cylinder walls on the zr1 already?

you could get a new performance block and start from the ground up but who with a zr1 wants to do that. i understand on the zo6.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

true but when the zr1 came out didnt they say it was going to be almost impossible to mod it. whats left to do nitrous and a more aggressive cam? how think are the cylinder walls on the zr1 already?

you could get a new performance block and start from the ground up but who with a zr1 wants to do that. i understand on the zo6.

Fundamentally, the LS9 is a supercharged LS3. There are a number of other differences, but conceptually thats what it is. And yes, you can go with a different cam, up the boost, bigger blower, etc. But ultimately, the LS9 has more potential than the LS7 does.

[v6sonoma]

ZR1 with a smaller pulley!

[BigDan]

Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

true but when the zr1 came out didnt they say it was going to be almost impossible to mod it. ? where did you hear that? whats left to do nitrous and a more aggressive cam? how think are the cylinder walls on the zr1 already? The LS9 is a fully forged wonder of building block just made for big power. Change the $100 supercharger pulley and you have a 90 extra hp, change to a larger twin screw supercharger $5k and with enough fuel you would be at 800-1,000whp without even pulling the valve cover's

you could get a new performance block and start from the ground up but who with a zr1 wants to do that. i understand on the zo6.I dont see too many people blowing up LS9 block's in the future or unless 1000whp isnt enough.

I would sell my current ride for a LS9/ bad ass 6 speed auto in a factory Camaro with a factory warranty. Just call it the ZL1 and give it tons of tranny options like the Super Cobra Jet, but keep the price in the CTS-V range, so I could still afford to slap a big twin screw Whipple 4.0L on top of it w/ methanol injection.

Correct me if im wrong but cant the LS9 handle more boost and flow better numbers then the LSA even if they both have say the same 2.9L Whipple at 17 psi? I thought the internals were better? and imaging what GM could do with a ZR1/LS9'ish performance tuned auto trans with maybe a trans brake and high stall.

[lil_red_v6]

Originally Posted by BigDan

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Originally Posted by lil_red_v6
true but when the zr1 came out didnt they say it was going to be almost impossible to mod it. ? where did you hear that? whats left to do nitrous and a more aggressive cam? how think are the cylinder walls on the zr1 already? The LS9 is a fully forged wonder of building block just made for big power. Change the $100 supercharger pulley and you have a 90 extra hp, change to a larger twin screw supercharger $5k and with enough fuel you would be at 800-1,000whp without even pulling the valve cover's

you could get a new performance block and start from the ground up but who with a zr1 wants to do that. i understand on the zo6.I dont see too many people blowing up LS9 block's in the future or unless 1000whp isnt enough.


I would sell my current ride for a LS9/ bad ass 6 speed auto in a factory Camaro with a factory warranty. Just call it the ZL1 and give it tons of tranny options like the Super Cobra Jet, but keep the price in the CTS-V range, so I could still afford to slap a big twin screw Whipple 4.0L on top of it w/ methanol injection.

Correct me if im wrong but cant the LS9 handle more boost and flow better numbers then the LSA even if they both have say the same 2.9L Whipple at 17 psi? I thought the internals were better? and imaging what GM could do with a ZR1/LS9'ish performance tuned auto trans with maybe a trans brake and high stall.

was a big talk going on a some local dealerships in my area and som other car guys at some meets talkin about it when it was still pre production. thats where i heard it from. but hell if u can do more and it be indestructible then awesome, im glad to know that. always down to hear new or accurate information.

[Txmxracer]

After reading the title of the thread, I thought the OP was saying that the Z06's engine was blown as in blown up and needed rebuilding.
Anyways, I would rather have the ZR1.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by BigDan

I would sell my current ride for a LS9/ bad ass 6 speed auto in a factory Camaro with a factory warranty. Just call it the ZL1 and give it tons of tranny options like the Super Cobra Jet, but keep the price in the CTS-V range, so I could still afford to slap a big twin screw Whipple 4.0L on top of it w/ methanol injection.

Correct me if im wrong but cant the LS9 handle more boost and flow better numbers then the LSA even if they both have say the same 2.9L Whipple at 17 psi? I thought the internals were better? and imaging what GM could do with a ZR1/LS9'ish performance tuned auto trans with maybe a trans brake and high stall.

I'd hate to imagine the price if GM offered some ZL1 like that lol.

[lil_red_v6]

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[v6sonoma]

Originally Posted by BigDan

I would sell my current ride for a LS9/ bad ass 6 speed auto in a factory Camaro with a factory warranty. Just call it the ZL1 and give it tons of tranny options like the Super Cobra Jet, but keep the price in the CTS-V range, so I could still afford to slap a big twin screw Whipple 4.0L on top of it w/ methanol injection.

Correct me if im wrong but cant the LS9 handle more boost and flow better numbers then the LSA even if they both have say the same 2.9L Whipple at 17 psi? I thought the internals were better? and imaging what GM could do with a ZR1/LS9'ish performance tuned auto trans with maybe a trans brake and high stall.

I thought the LSA used a 1.9L and the LS9 had a 2.3L? hmmm.

[Rockhead]

Z06. I don't like ths cheesy hood on the ZR1.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by v6sonoma

I thought the LSA used a 1.9L and the LS9 had a 2.3L? hmmm.

Yes, he's saying replace the factory blower with a bigger aftermarket unit producing much more boost than either stock blower

[Nine Ball]

My '09 Z06 has only one performance mod done to it, a Maggie TVS2300. Still has the stock exhaust system, stock sparkplugs, everything still stock but the Maggie on top. At only 5 psi boost, it surpasses the output of a stock ZR1. The 427ci LS7 also winds out to 7000 rpm, whereas the LS9/ZR1 only winds out to 6500 rpm. My racing powerband is broader, and when I shift at 7K the rpm drop into the next gear is still above an LS9. You guys should hear what 7K rpm with a 7.0L supercharged engine sounds like, it is dreamy

Here is my dyno graph, comparing the supercharged Z06 vs a stock ZR1. ZR1 at 10 psi boost, Z06 at 5 psi.



And, I think my Z06 looks better than a stock ZR1 too.





I bought the car brand new for $64K. The Maggie kit costs about $7K. For $71K total, you could duplicate the performance of a $110K ZR1. Only thing the ZR1 has on the Z06 is the carbon brakes, but brakes are a simple upgrade too.

Tony

[LostInMoscow]

If I had to pick my favorite thing about 'vettes in general over other high performance 2 seaters is the magnetic select ride control. The ZR1 has it, and the Z06 does not. Plus, the Z06 suspension makes the car feel like it's on rails - steel wheels on steel rails with no give! The ZR1 is much more pleasant to be in for that reason alone - good ride and great handling together. And lastly, I just about crapped myself when I drove a ZR1! It's fast enough for me, and I'm a speed freak!