The Truth About Ticket Quotas - Page 2

Lauryn200 · 09-12-2010, 01:05 PM

New York City in 2005 made $578 million in parking ticket revenue and had exspenses of $12 million..........net of $566 million.They issued 9.5 million tickets.

I was not one of them.
They would charge us for "air" if they could.

Xanthos · 09-13-2010, 11:17 AM

I don't remember the exact numbers, but I remember having a discussion with a retired OKC police officer about quotas. He said that OKC has a quota, but its very low. Like, 5 tickets and 10 warnings a week. He said he usually hit his quota on the first day of the week, without really trying.

Personally I have nothing against quotas as long as it doesn't get to such a high level that cops feel pressure to falsify tickets.
- X

usmc8411 · 09-13-2010, 11:52 AM

If the speed limit on a certain highway is 65 mph and the police write xx amount of 75 in a 65...why dont they look at raising the speed limt instead of constanly phucking people over on bullship.

Look at it like this...most cops wont pull you over until you do about 10 over.

So if your in a residential area with a speed limt of 25 mph and you get tagged for 35 (which is not the place to be speeding I might add) you were ticketed for going 10 over...so in court you pay $75...but if you look at it another way you were essentially going 28% over the speed limt.Which is about $2.60 per percentage over the speed limit.

Now guy B is in a 65 mph zone doing 75 and gets pulled over and written for 10 over...goes to court and pays $75...but in reality he was only going 13% over the speed limit. Which comes out to $5.70 per percentage over the speed limt.

How is that fair when its far more dangerous to speed in residential areas?

Also food for thought...a lot of us dont speed because of the fines. The wealthy pay the same fines and it doesnt affect them in any way shape or form unless they get suspended. The wealthy pay more taxes to make things fair...why not pay tickets on percentage of income? A $75 fine might literally take food out of childs mouth for his mom not paying attention to her speed for a few seconds, but Bill Gates could get a ticket for speeding then throw a fist full of hundreds out the window just to add a littering ticket for fun and not care.

Then you have mobile enforcement vans, red light cameras, speed cameras...ect ect...that just send you tickets in the mail. Well how the phuck does sending me a ticket in the mail 2 weeks later make anybody safer? It doesnt. Its not about safety, never has been, never will be. Its about revenue.

Just something to think about.

HeHasReturned · 09-13-2010, 03:34 PM

I don't like the Police anymore than most of you guys. But if you get caught speeding, whatever the policeman's motive, you were speeding. End of story. They may be less likely to let you off, but that's too bad. Don't get caught. No reason to complain unless he gives you a ticket for 5 over on the freeway or something equally ridiculous.

derklug · 09-14-2010, 12:17 AM

From officers I have known, the quotas are more to insure that an officer is actually doing his job, not home watching TV with his patrol car in the garage. With GPS now, I doubt officers can get away with that anymore, but there still has to be some benchmark for an officers job performance.

Mr CLuTcH · 09-14-2010, 01:44 AM

Quote:

The Truth About Ticket Quotas
They do exist. The NYPD has been outed by a recording that became the property of the New York Times.

I am interested to know about the legality of this sort of system.

Discuss.

I've been waiting to see another article about this, because despite what the many people don't want to believe, quotas exist, and they are real, and more districts enforce them than a little. The police, no matter how much evidence or "proof" you ever have, they will never admit to it, because an admittance would mean fraud and and fraud would be a crime. You see, what alot of you fail to realize is this,....the police are not put in place to "protect and serve" you. They are put in place to enforce laws and codes.

Officers who served the people with the Constitution in mind were known as "peacekeepers, now, they are no longer "peace-keeper" but "police"! If you break the code, we are coming for you. The whole idea of "police" is nothing more than a business. This is a fine instance in which they were caught red handed in the cookie jar forcing officers to "find criminals" or face "consequences", such as job loss. I'm telling you, don't take this personal, but it's nothing more than business; they're job is to make money. It's no different than working for any other corporation, criminals equal money. The more we bring in the more money we make. So go out and find criminals, even if they aren't any! Find some, or else!

They're in this to make money, not protect and serve the peace. Don't believe me, you don't have to, just look at the prisons. Consequently, the more they keep you in court, the more money they can squeeze out your wallet. You remember that.

mrray13 · 09-14-2010, 12:50 PM

There are a few departments around that don't have quotas. The one I work for is one. We do not have to write a certain number of tickets a day, a week, a month. There have been times when I haven't written a ticket all week, but instead concentrated on other stuff. I still pulled people over, using whatever pc they gave me, ie;speeding, but was looking for other, items, lol.

Like mentioned above though, all one has to do is not speed, is buckle up, and stay off their phones, etc., to avoid having to deal with us.

Scrappy Doo · 09-14-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

I've been waiting to see another article about this, because despite what the many people don't want to believe, quotas exist, and they are real, and more districts enforce them than a little. The police, no matter how much evidence or "proof" you ever have, they will never admit to it, because an admittance would mean fraud and and fraud would be a crime. You see, what alot of you fail to realize is this,....the police are not put in place to "protect and serve" you. They are put in place to enforce laws and codes.

Officers who served the people with the Constitution in mind were known as "peacekeepers, now, they are no longer "peace-keeper" but "police"! If you break the code, we are coming for you. The whole idea of "police" is nothing more than a business. This is a fine instance in which they were caught red handed in the cookie jar forcing officers to "find criminals" or face "consequences", such as job loss. I'm telling you, don't take this personal, but it's nothing more than business; they're job is to make money. It's no different than working for any other corporation, criminals equal money. The more we bring in the more money we make. So go out and find criminals, even if they aren't any! Find some, or else!

They're in this to make money, not protect and serve the peace. Don't believe me, you don't have to, just look at the prisons. Consequently, the more they keep you in court, the more money they can squeeze out your wallet. You remember that.

I cannot even begin to address all the issues in this post......

How do you figure that if a burglar gets arrested for breaking into your house, that the ploice make money off of that..... let's see there is the investigation by the police (which isn't free), the prosecution of the criminal (not free again), the defense attorney for the criminal, (not free again) The trial, (still not free) and the prison/jail term, (not free yet) not to mention the parole/probation after they get out of prison/jail, (This isn't free either)

After all that money out the door to put someone away, I don't see all the departments getting paid by anybody for doing their job.

LOWDOWN · 09-14-2010, 05:13 PM

Quotas: It's nice to know not all their time is spent at Dunkin Donuts...

j/k...sorta...

usmc8411 · 09-14-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo

I cannot even begin to address all the issues in this post......

How do you figure that if a burglar gets arrested for breaking into your house, that the ploice make money off of that..... let's see there is the investigation by the police (which isn't free), the prosecution of the criminal (not free again), the defense attorney for the criminal, (not free again) The trial, (still not free) and the prison/jail term, (not free yet) not to mention the parole/probation after they get out of prison/jail, (This isn't free either)

After all that money out the door to put someone away, I don't see all the departments getting paid by anybody for doing their job.

Investigations is the job of police.
Prosecution isnt done by police and you pay court fines and phucking fees out the ass even for traffic court.
Defendent pays defense attorney if found guilty in a lot of states.
Trial...again court costs.
Prison...well they pay $20 a day to be locked up down here.

Berean · 09-14-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by usmc8411

Its not about safety, never has been, never will be. Its about revenue.

Exactly correct.

09-12-2010, 01:05 PM	#15
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09-13-2010, 11:17 AM	#16
Xanthos PWA Relapse Drives: Formerly-Stick Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 12,588 View My Garage	I don't remember the exact numbers, but I remember having a discussion with a retired OKC police officer about quotas. He said that OKC has a quota, but its very low. Like, 5 tickets and 10 warnings a week. He said he usually hit his quota on the first day of the week, without really trying. Personally I have nothing against quotas as long as it doesn't get to such a high level that cops feel pressure to falsify tickets. - X __________________ 2017 1LT/RS A8 Hyper Blue Metallic

09-14-2010, 12:17 AM	#19
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	From officers I have known, the quotas are more to insure that an officer is actually doing his job, not home watching TV with his patrol car in the garage. With GPS now, I doubt officers can get away with that anymore, but there still has to be some benchmark for an officers job performance. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

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09-13-2010, 11:52 AM	#17
usmc8411 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 camaro Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: hannibal mo Posts: 207	If the speed limit on a certain highway is 65 mph and the police write xx amount of 75 in a 65...why dont they look at raising the speed limt instead of constanly phucking people over on bullship. Look at it like this...most cops wont pull you over until you do about 10 over. So if your in a residential area with a speed limt of 25 mph and you get tagged for 35 (which is not the place to be speeding I might add) you were ticketed for going 10 over...so in court you pay $75...but if you look at it another way you were essentially going 28% over the speed limt.Which is about $2.60 per percentage over the speed limit. Now guy B is in a 65 mph zone doing 75 and gets pulled over and written for 10 over...goes to court and pays $75...but in reality he was only going 13% over the speed limit. Which comes out to $5.70 per percentage over the speed limt. How is that fair when its far more dangerous to speed in residential areas? Also food for thought...a lot of us dont speed because of the fines. The wealthy pay the same fines and it doesnt affect them in any way shape or form unless they get suspended. The wealthy pay more taxes to make things fair...why not pay tickets on percentage of income? A $75 fine might literally take food out of childs mouth for his mom not paying attention to her speed for a few seconds, but Bill Gates could get a ticket for speeding then throw a fist full of hundreds out the window just to add a littering ticket for fun and not care. Then you have mobile enforcement vans, red light cameras, speed cameras...ect ect...that just send you tickets in the mail. Well how the phuck does sending me a ticket in the mail 2 weeks later make anybody safer? It doesnt. Its not about safety, never has been, never will be. Its about revenue. Just something to think about.

09-13-2010, 03:34 PM	#18
HeHasReturned Drives: GTI Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Don't worry bout it Posts: 328	I don't like the Police anymore than most of you guys. But if you get caught speeding, whatever the policeman's motive, you were speeding. End of story. They may be less likely to let you off, but that's too bad. Don't get caught. No reason to complain unless he gives you a ticket for 5 over on the freeway or something equally ridiculous.

09-14-2010, 12:50 PM	#21
mrray13 Drives: 2010 1LT RS Rally Yellow Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: southern Illinois Posts: 2,973	There are a few departments around that don't have quotas. The one I work for is one. We do not have to write a certain number of tickets a day, a week, a month. There have been times when I haven't written a ticket all week, but instead concentrated on other stuff. I still pulled people over, using whatever pc they gave me, ie;speeding, but was looking for other, items, lol. Like mentioned above though, all one has to do is not speed, is buckle up, and stay off their phones, etc., to avoid having to deal with us.

09-14-2010, 05:13 PM	#23
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	Quotas: It's nice to know not all their time is spent at Dunkin Donuts... j/k...sorta...