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Old 12-30-2008, 08:50 AM   #71
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Its not eye candy, just another mustang. I see 10 or more on the road daily.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:00 AM   #72
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Attachment 12100 now it's not that bad looking,is it? I think ford did a good job they got this chevy boy to buy one.
BUT How much of that stuff is Aftermarket or dealer installed?
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:02 AM   #73
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Hey Max! I like that Stang!! It's all good.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:02 AM   #74
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The 5.0 is only a strok out 4.6.It's not the push rod motor everyone is thinking of.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:14 AM   #75
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I can say for a fact it is cheeper to biuld a chevy motor than a ford after market wise.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:21 AM   #76
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Underneath its essentially the same body as 2008 gt with some added weight, The Shelby gt 500 has around an extra 175 hp (given it weighs 400 lbs more) and it's only .5 seconds faster than the 2010 mustang?Those numbers for the stang are pre independent testing and pre production and unveiled for an auto show. The Challenger is rated at almost the same HP as the Camaro its 300 lbs more and its official number are 0-60 4.8. I can see the Camaro with the more modern suspension(compared to the mustang) putting down numbers closer to the Shelby GT 500 at 4.5. I know 4.6 was the official unofficial time but again that is pre independent testing and pre production. Anyhow .4 to .6 seconds would take alot of money to make up especialy when the numbers (times gets closer to 0). It definitely wont be new exhaust, cold air intake, pulleys, and a chip(30 or so hp at the rear wheels)alone . It will be closer but it will still need something more significant than the standard bolt-ons. The 15 hp increase is just to keep up with the weight increase.

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Old 12-30-2008, 09:23 AM   #77
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the Mustangs do weigh less and it will make up the difference there.
Not quite.

2010 Mustang GT, 3500 lbs, 315 hp = 11.11 lbs per hp

2010 Camaro SS, 3900 lbs, 422 hp = 9.24 lbs per hp
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:10 AM   #78
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Most here already know of the 5.0 return is not the pushrod motor. Its not a stroked 4.6 either, its actaully from what I have read destroked 5.4.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:18 AM   #79
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Attachment 12100 now it's not that bad looking,is it? I think ford did a good job they got this chevy boy to buy one.
But how much did it cost you to get those 427 ponies? That is only 5-27 ponies more than the stock Camaro SS. FTW
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:26 AM   #80
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Dont about everyone else on here, but if I had the choice to spend 26k and it was down to a v6 camaro or v8 mustang...i'd definitely pick the v8 mustang.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:32 AM   #81
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I got the 5.0 stroker kit now.Just have'nt pulled the motor down as of yet.plans are 8.5.1
from 9.5.1 and new frrp heads with a boost @16psi should put me in the 600hp range easy with stock cams.i've ordered a new TCI 555r trans w/3000 stall. I making 427 hp with 8 psi now.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:33 AM   #82
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The one highlight that I found after hearing that they were putting only 315hp in the 2010 Mustang (which was sad back in 05... and VERY sad for 2010... only real issue I have with the newer Mustangs) is the Factory offered supercharger setups (not installed at dealer but at Ford so they say) which will offer two levels, 400hp and a 500hp version. That is whats currently being said at least, and I hope this stays true....

I contemplated an 05+ mustang but the 03/04 cobra with 425hp/405tq (390/390 so they say but FYI its underrated) was FAR to good to pass up even if its 3600lbs for the price and mod ability. The 05-09 Saleen's and Roush mustangs are not bad but basically they are GT mustangs with blower stock on them... My 03 has 480hp/460tq at the flywheel and I only have a cat back and a CAI.... and I am just getting started, not topping out as they nearly are off the dealership floor. I did need a supercharger to get there but that really doesn't bother me due to the ease of upping the boost and the fact my motor will take it without any real problems until I start pushing 550-600rwhp.

When they make a newer mustang with real power and not charge 20k adm's I will get one. The new GT500 looks nice but the prices are still to high for what they are (sticker = good ... adm = no thanks)

Hopefully ford will step up in 2011 or 2012 and up the performance. The sad part is they have never needed to in order to stay on top of things in their market segment but I fear if they don't break old habits of not having to try as hard in the performance areas they will end up being over taken by someone else. We shall see.. but for now the GT500 is the only newer Mustang I am currently interested in.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:38 AM   #83
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You ever see a NASCAR race where one of the cars spins out and slides backwards into the wall at 150MPH? That's what seems to have inspired the rear end styling of the new Mustang!

The powder blue is "cute".

...and as far as "bang for the buck" goes, the V6 Camaro will be more fun to drive and evoke more of a feeling of quality than the V8 mustang, and since everyone seems to think that sales of the mustang are so good because of the lower price, it seems likely that a lot of mustang GT sales could be robbed by the lower priced V6 Camaro due to the more recent technology in the design at same or lower price.

In other words, the base Mustang will still sell to whomever it sells to now. If that's where all the sales of the mustang are coming from, you can KEEP those sales... there's no money in stripper models. V6 Camaro should steal higher level V6 and low-mid level V8 mustang sales. 1SS should take away mid to mid-high level Mustang V8 sales, and 2SS should put a hurt on special Mustang models.

The only place the Mustang offers more bang for the buck is in the pleather-seat/manual-crank-window/AMFM-stereo-cassette models, which the Camaro doesn't seem to have a player in. Maybe a Cobalt would be a better entry anyway.

that's grabber blue same color as was on the original mach:




GM is offering a cadillac engine for 25K and a corvette engine for 31K. i bet you they are not making any money on these cars and maybe selling them at a loss until they reach a certain number sold
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:54 AM   #84
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I got the 5.0 stroker kit now.Just have'nt pulled the motor down as of yet.plans are 8.5.1
from 9.5.1 and new frrp heads with a boost @16psi should put me in the 600hp range easy with stock cams.i've ordered a new TCI 555r trans w/3000 stall. I making 427 hp with 8 psi now.
You still didn't answer my question as to much of that is AFTERMARKET and how much it cost we're talking stock numbers
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