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Old 08-25-2010, 03:45 PM   #9087
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FYI I drive all of our development cars constantly as daily drivers. We just took both the Camaro and Mustang across the state for the Woodward Cruise. I can't say I drive them everyday, because I alternate vehicles, but I do drive them a lot. The Mustang has about 9K and the Camaro 15K. These are testing miles, take the kids to school miles, drag strip 1/4 miles.... I took my daughters to church camp in the Mustang, about a 7 hour drive. The year before we took the Camaro.

It is one thing to drive a car on a track or for a day. It is another to live with it. I like to live with the cars as I believe it breeds better end results suspension parts.

Both cars have been warranty work free. Think about that two American Muscle Cars driven really hard are WARRANTY FREE!!!!
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Old 08-25-2010, 03:53 PM   #9088
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So there is absolutely nothing you would like to see improved for the next model year for the Camaro's interior? It's 100% perfect for you? If it is, then I am very happy you got a Camaro that exhibit's none of the problems I mentioned. Is there a hole that has been drilled thru the C pillar so that you can see thru it now? Or are you wearing x-ray goggles? I'm just messing with ya.. Take care man and don't let my criticism get you all upset. Remember that the "I" in my post has been echoed by many in this forum and many reviewers as well.
Just remember, there is no I in team

Am I saying the Camaro is perfect? HELL NO!

Am I happy with the product as delievered? HELL YES!

After owning 6 other Camaros spread out across 4 gens, I can tell you hands down this is the best built Camaro to date.

No car is without flaws....you accept what they are and learn to live with them. You want the bitchin low roof, you learn how to drive with it.Mustang has them as well as the Camaro...just the way it is.

You're happy as can be with your 5.0
I'm happy as can be with my SS

Sounds like a win win no?
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:06 PM   #9089
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GD it, where's that facepalm emote... Oh, here it is...



Look, we're glad you like your car. I like that my car doesn't have a chariot axle. Capiche?
A chariot axle that is Superior to the Camaro IRS. Ford has passed Chevrolet with it's old SRA and set it's sights on a real competitor the BMW M3. Capiche? The SRA must not be too bad, when it was tested against the M3 which also has an IRS it was very competitive.
When the Camaro SS can outhandle the SRA in a Mustang stock for stock with a system that should outhandle an SRA get back to me until then leave your opinion to yourself. BMW's handling is a benchmark to almost all car manufacturers for performance. If Ford can build a Mustang with a SRA that is competitive with an M3, Chevrolet has a long way to go.
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:19 PM   #9090
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A chariot axle that is Superior to the Camaro IRS. Ford has passed Chevrolet with it's old SRA and set it's sights on a real competitor the BMW M3. Capiche? The SRA must not be too bad, when it was tested against the M3 which also has an IRS it was very competitive.
When the Camaro SS can outhandle the SRA in a Mustang stock for stock with a system that should outhandle an SRA get back to me until then leave your opinion to yourself. BMW's handling is a benchmark to almost all car manufacturers for performance. If Ford can build a Mustang with a SRA that is competitive with an M3, Chevrolet has a long way to go.
Comparing to an M3? Think you are overrating the pony.

OK, I've seen the track and number comparisions, but the Beamer is a hole different class of ride. (and payment, too) Mustang is def. the better bang for the buck, but I bet the M3 gets you laid more.
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:23 PM   #9091
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It appears a lot of people are in denial about Ford' s resurgence as leader of the muscle car pack, taking the title away from the Camaro SS after one years time. .
Who did the Camaro SS lose to? A driver's race vs the 2011 GT, hands down way better looking(no it is not subjective, if you think it is, you are only kidding yourself). No, we don't have a muscle car to compete with the GT500 YET, but it's coming and will carry a sledge hammer.
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:36 PM   #9092
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Who did the Camaro SS lose to? A driver's race vs the 2011 GT, hands down way better looking(no it is not subjective, if you think it is, you are only kidding yourself). No, we don't have a muscle car to compete with the GT500 YET, but it's coming and will carry a sledge hammer.

excellent points
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:41 PM   #9093
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Who did the Camaro SS lose to? A driver's race vs the 2011 GT, hands down way better looking(no it is not subjective, if you think it is, you are only kidding yourself). No, we don't have a muscle car to compete with the GT500 YET, but it's coming and will carry a sledge hammer.
Standing by for the a typical response in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.....
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:52 PM   #9094
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:52 PM   #9095
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I'd say a M6 SS vs a M6 5.0 will be pretty much a drivers race..

I'd like to see a truly properly (and confirmed stock) run between an A6 SS and a A6 5.0. Especially since the fastest all stock 5.0 time has been with a automatic.

Something in my gut tells me it isnt quite a drivers race
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:58 PM   #9096
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I'd say a M6 SS vs a M6 5.0 will be pretty much a drivers race..

I'd like to see a truly properly (and confirmed stock) run between an A6 SS and a A6 5.0. Especially since the fastest all stock 5.0 time has been with a automatic.

Something in my gut tells me it isnt quite a drivers race
M6 v. M6 is a total drivers race....

A6 vs. A6 would be a route in favor of the 5.0...without a doubt in my mind.
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:59 PM   #9097
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Just curious, what is the best times we have seen stock for each of the automatics?
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Old 08-25-2010, 05:00 PM   #9098
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I'd say a M6 SS vs a M6 5.0 will be pretty much a drivers race..

I'd like to see a truly properly (and confirmed stock) run between an A6 SS and a A6 5.0. Especially since the fastest all stock 5.0 time has been with a automatic.

Something in my gut tells me it isnt quite a drivers race
even if it isn't, is the marginally better performance worth the cost of having an uglier vehicle?

only the individual consumer can answer that I guess
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Old 08-25-2010, 05:16 PM   #9099
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Just curious, what is the best times we have seen stock for each of the automatics?
I believe the fastest stock L99 was a 12.8 and the fastest stock A6 5.0 was a 12.5.
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Old 08-25-2010, 06:12 PM   #9100
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I believe the fastest stock L99 was a 12.8 and the fastest stock A6 5.0 was a 12.5.
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