Volt pricing announced. Starts at $41,000* - Page 15

*DGthe3* · 07-31-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Actors ride in Limos. Only "D-listers" still drive themselves.

Politicians fly in jets and helicopters that belch carbon.

Ummm ... no.

If they're going somewhere to be seen yeah they'll probably take a limo. But the rest of the time most of them just drive their own vehicle. Same with musicians. You'd have to be pretty full of yourself to show up on set everyday in a limo.

There are tons of government jobs where you have no hope of flying to and from Washington unless you are accompanying someone more senior. Most bureaucrats don't get paid that well, or are considered important enough.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-31-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Actors ride in Limos. Only "D-listers" still drive themselves.

Politicians fly in jets and helicopters that belch carbon.

Weren't there are bunch of actors a few months back that purchased Camaros? Were they D-listers?

tooslow · 07-31-2010, 04:52 PM

So, let me ask this question. If the car is intended for commuters, which in most cases indicates people living in/near metropolitan areas, how will those who live in apartments, or who do not have a garage, recharge their cars each night?

*DGthe3* · 07-31-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tooslow

So, let me ask this question. If the car is intended for commuters, which in most cases indicates people living in/near metropolitan areas, how will those who live in apartments, or who do not have a garage, recharge their cars each night?

Apartments would be difficult, though some do have charging stations. But you can recharge it in your driveway, for some it would be a lot like plugging in a engine block heater.

Number 3 · 07-31-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Why am I seeing teasers on the news about the volt that seem to already be declaring the car a waste of bailout money? I think they are already trying to shape public opinion that the Leaf is better. When is GM going to hit back with some PR showing why the Volt is the best electric?

Rush Limbaugh made a big stink too.

Keep in mind, the Volt isn't the best EV in all cases. If you have electric charging infrastructure at home AND at work AND live in a temperate climate AND have no hills to climb on your commute AND you never want to take your car on a weekend "up North" or drive on vacation, the Leaf may be a better choice. But if want an EV with a lot more flexibilty, the Volt will absolutely be the better choice. So it will be hard to say the Volt is a better EV, but for many people it will be a far more practical choice.

Clinic results continue to show that range anxiety is the Number 1 reason people fear pure EVs. I'm sure you'll see this played up in upcoming advertising.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-31-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Clinic results continue to show that range anxiety is the Number 1 reason people fear pure EVs. I'm sure you'll see this played up in upcoming advertising.

I had been thinking about how they would advertise. There are so many angles marketing could come from.

*DGthe3* · 07-31-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Clinic results continue to show that range anxiety is the Number 1 reason people fear pure EVs. I'm sure you'll see this played up in upcoming advertising.

Am I the only one that wants to see an ad campaign based on this:

tooslow · 07-31-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Keep in mind, the Volt isn't the best EV in all cases.

Why do people keep calling the Volt an EV when its not. It's a electric/gas hybrid. Yes it can go 40 miles on battery power alone, but it still has a gasoline-powered secondary engine.

*DGthe3* · 07-31-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tooslow

Why do people keep calling the Volt an EV when its not. It's a electric/gas hybrid. Yes it can go 40 miles on battery power alone, but it still has a gasoline-powered secondary engine.

I don't know either. 2 power sources = hybrid to me.

FenwickHockey65 · 07-31-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tooslow

Why do people keep calling the Volt an EV when its not. It's a electric/gas hybrid. Yes it can go 40 miles on battery power alone, but it still has a gasoline-powered secondary engine.

No mechanical linkage from the gasoline engine to the drive wheels is why most people don't classify it as a hybrid.

*DGthe3* · 07-31-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

No mechanical linkage from the gasoline engine to the drive wheels is why most people don't classify it as a hybrid.

Define what a hybrid is

tooslow · 07-31-2010, 07:56 PM

Vehicles where both the internal combustion engine and the electric motor transmit power to the drivetrain are known a parallel hybrids.

Vehicles where only the electric motor transmits power to the drivetrain but has an ICE acting as a gererator, are known a series hybrids.

Both types of cars are hybrids. Thus, the Volts is a HEV not an EV.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-31-2010, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tooslow

Thus, the Volts is a HEV not an EV.

The Volt is a series hybrid with constantly electrically driven wheels, or a Extended-Range Electric Vehicle. We can disagree...but not deny the company's designation.

tooslow · 07-31-2010, 09:52 PM

LOL! Okay, GM says its an EV so by all means, it's an EV!

07-31-2010, 07:56 PM	#208
tooslow Banned Drives: 4 Wheels, Gasoline Engine Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,007	Vehicles where both the internal combustion engine and the electric motor transmit power to the drivetrain are known a parallel hybrids. Vehicles where only the electric motor transmits power to the drivetrain but has an ICE acting as a gererator, are known a series hybrids. Both types of cars are hybrids. Thus, the Volts is a HEV not an EV. Last edited by tooslow; 07-31-2010 at 09:52 PM.

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tooslow Banned Drives: 4 Wheels, Gasoline Engine Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,007	So, let me ask this question. If the car is intended for commuters, which in most cases indicates people living in/near metropolitan areas, how will those who live in apartments, or who do not have a garage, recharge their cars each night?

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tooslow Banned Drives: 4 Wheels, Gasoline Engine Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,007	LOL! Okay, GM says its an EV so by all means, it's an EV!