OMG - WHY!

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by franknbeans

needless. . . . hardly so.

(253.5 mph), almost one-third of the speed of sound at sea level (Top Gear Verified)
Bugatti Claims 267.9
0 - 60 mph time of 2.4 seconds
0 - 100mph 5.5 seconds
0 - 186mph 16.7
0 - 248mph 50 seconds!

I know of a car with 1/8 the cam shafts, 1/2 the turbos, with less displacement that produces more power, more torque, has an even higher top speed, superior mid range acceleration, and consumes less fuel. And costs half as much.

As I said, needless complication.

[spacecowby]

FAIL on absolutely every level

[CaniacFan]

Ya,, that's FUGLY all day.. Yuck..

[HeHasReturned]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I know of a car with 1/8 the cam shafts, 1/2 the turbos, with less displacement that produces more power, more torque, has an even higher top speed, superior mid range acceleration, and consumes less fuel. And costs half as much.

As I said, needless complication.

vs.




There are reasons for cost differences...

[guiLT]

Yuck.

[derklug]

Money and taste don't go hand in hand.

[franknbeans]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I know of a car with 1/8 the cam shafts, 1/2 the turbos, with less displacement that produces more power, more torque, has an even higher top speed, superior mid range acceleration, and consumes less fuel. And costs half as much.

As I said, needless complication.

does this magical car have a name?

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by franknbeans

needless. . . . hardly so.

(253.5 mph), almost one-third of the speed of sound at sea level (Top Gear Verified)
Bugatti Claims 267.9
0 - 60 mph time of 2.4 seconds
0 - 100mph 5.5 seconds
0 - 186mph 16.7
0 - 248mph 50 seconds!

I don't give a damn what any critic says, the Bugatti Veyron is absolutely amazing; inside and out. I mean, look at those times! You basically have an airplane on wheels! Seriously! Those times are incredible! You can reach a top speed of 248mph in ten seconds short of ONE MINUTE! That's retarded! Just insane.

I know of a car with 1/8 the cam shafts, 1/2 the turbos, with less displacement that produces more power, more torque, has an even higher top speed, superior mid range acceleration, and consumes less fuel. And costs half as much.

As I said, needless complication.

Oh, let's just put it on the table now,....your talking about the SSC Ultimate Aero! Sorry, the Bugatti has taken it's crown back as the fastest car in the world. And not only that, it achieves it's top speed of 268mph in less distance than it takes the SSC Ultimate Aero to even reach it's top speed "256mph". Sure theoretically, the Aero can go faster,given enough space, but the Aero runs out of track before it can even pull past it's 256mph record, while the Bugatti on the other hand can take the world record back with a higher top speed with the same space it's always used during it's preproduction testing, right at they're facility. Not to mention many top-speed test failed for the Aero because during the test drivers of the Aero reported bad "wheel-spin" at 190mph+. The Buggati doesn't suffer from those problems, because it has AWD,traction control, and stability control. The Bugatti has even managed an amazing feat in snow, it managed to pull a truck out of a snowy ditch on Bugatti's snow course. With all that wheel-spin in the Aero and no traction control you can't even dream of doing that. You can practically travel at high speeds in rain and around corners in the Bugatti and still not lose any traction and remain absolutely stable. If you ever watch some of the Bugatti top speed runs, at 240+mph, inside of the car is absolutely quiet! It doesn't even sound like the engine is on! That in itself is ASTOUNDING. The Aero on the our hand,......no.

Jay Leno let the car loose on a highway and from the inside of the car it sounds like your in a boiler room! lol. Not my cup of tee mate. If I had a choice and the money, the Bugatti would be the first car I'd buy hands down. The Aero is an amazing car of epic proportions itself, but it's interior and the noise it puts out in between shifts is not worth it's price-tag.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by HeHasReturned

vs.




There are reasons for cost differences...

I'm not a tech geek or interior guy but ... to me it looks like the insanely expensive Veyron is lacking even a nav screen (which appears to be present in the Ultimate Aero TT). I also noticed what appears to be a leather dash in the UA TT. Is that a plastic dash on the Veyron? It can't be leather because there is no stitching that I can see. I prefer the black interior but you can get the UA TT's interior in black as well so I'd call that a wash. Or am I missing something? Like I said, I'm not really an interior guy.

Originally Posted by franknbeans

does this magical car have a name?

Shelby Super Cars Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo. No relation to Carol Shelby. The V8 is based off the LS6 from the C5 Z06. Yup, for 2 and a half years, the worlds fastest car was powered by a Chevy Small Block

Originally Posted by Mr CLuTcH

Oh, let's just put it on the table now,....your talking about the SSC Ultimate Aero! Sorry, the Bugatti has taken it's crown back as the fastest car in the world. And not only that, it achieves it's top speed of 268mph in less distance than it takes the SSC Ultimate Aero to even reach it's top speed "256mph". Sure theoretically, the Aero can go faster,given enough space, but the Aero runs out of track before it can even pull past it's 256mph record, while the Bugatti on the other hand can take the world record back with a higher top speed with the same space it's always used during it's preproduction testing, right at they're facility. Not to mention many top-speed test failed for the Aero because during the test drivers of the Aero reported bad "wheel-spin" at 190mph+. The Buggati doesn't suffer from those problems, because it has AWD,traction control, and stability control. The Bugatti has even managed an amazing feat in snow, it managed to pull a truck out of a snowy ditch on Bugatti's snow course. With all that wheel-spin in the Aero and no traction control you can't even dream of doing that. You can practically travel at high speeds in rain and around corners in the Bugatti and still not lose any traction and remain absolutely stable. If you ever watch some of the Bugatti top speed runs, at 240+mph, inside of the car is absolutely quiet! It doesn't even sound like the engine is on! That in itself is ASTOUNDING. The Aero on the our hand,......no.

Jay Leno let the car loose on a highway and from the inside of the car it sounds like your in a boiler room! lol. Not my cup of tee mate. If I had a choice and the money, the Bugatti would be the first car I'd buy hands down. The Aero is an amazing car of epic proportions itself, but it's interior and the noise it puts out in between shifts is not worth it's price-tag.

I'm sure the picture that was posted wasn't of the retuned engine. And when you're talking about running the Veyron to its limit, remember that it was done on a gigantic circle test track with steep banking vs a stretch of closed down highway in the desert. The centrifigal force from running on a banked road gives the AWD car even more grip on the already grippy surface. A worn out highway in the desert isn't exactly ideal for this sort of thing. Maybe they'll run it again at Daytona after it gets repaved, it won't be as good as a circle but it should be an awful lot better than a few miles of highway. Maybe they can talk one of the big 3 into letting them use a great big test circle. But regardless, the UA TT still has more speed left in it, 272 mph I believe.

As for the 'uncivilized' aspects of the TT such as ...

"wheel-spin" at 190mph+

to me, thats a sign of baddassness. If I want a quiet, comfortable, exclusive luxury car, I'll look at a Rolls Royce or something. But if I am looking to buy the worlds fastest car, I want to know I'm getting a machine. I don't want a jack of all trades, I want something that is purpose built for speed. By the same token, I'll take a Viper over an R8 any time.

[nester7929]

Never cared much for the Veyron. It looks like Bugatti accidentally dropped a hood on top of the preexisting hood and forgot about it.

Give me a DBS over a Veyron any day,

[TAG UR IT]

Oh, how sad... Someone had an idea...and maybe it worked for them, but oh how sad...

[28.]

what a waste

[HeHasReturned]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I'm not a tech geek or interior guy but ... to me it looks like the insanely expensive Veyron is lacking even a nav screen (which appears to be present in the Ultimate Aero TT). I also noticed what appears to be a leather dash in the UA TT. Is that a plastic dash on the Veyron? It can't be leather because there is no stitching that I can see. I prefer the black interior but you can get the UA TT's interior in black as well so I'd call that a wash. Or am I missing something? Like I said, I'm not really an interior guy.


Shelby Super Cars Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo. No relation to Carol Shelby. The V8 is based off the LS6 from the C5 Z06. Yup, for 2 and a half years, the worlds fastest car was powered by a Chevy Small Block


I'm sure the picture that was posted wasn't of the retuned engine. And when you're talking about running the Veyron to its limit, remember that it was done on a gigantic circle test track with steep banking vs a stretch of closed down highway in the desert. The centrifigal force from running on a banked road gives the AWD car even more grip on the already grippy surface. A worn out highway in the desert isn't exactly ideal for this sort of thing. Maybe they'll run it again at Daytona after it gets repaved, it won't be as good as a circle but it should be an awful lot better than a few miles of highway. Maybe they can talk one of the big 3 into letting them use a great big test circle. But regardless, the UA TT still has more speed left in it, 272 mph I believe.

As for the 'uncivilized' aspects of the TT such as ...
to me, thats a sign of baddassness. If I want a quiet, comfortable, exclusive luxury car, I'll look at a Rolls Royce or something. But if I am looking to buy the worlds fastest car, I want to know I'm getting a machine. I don't want a jack of all trades, I want something that is purpose built for speed. By the same token, I'll take a Viper over an R8 any time.

The entire Veyron interior is leather, except for of course the center console, which is some kind of metal, unlike the Aero TT.
If you think wheel spin at 200mph is "badass," well
You're also missing something; The Veyron is just like a two seater Rolls Royce, but it is also one of the best, if not the best, production performance car on the market. As of right now, it holds the highest top speed record, not to mention that it has those tires for 1.3g's, and it has awd for grip and handling to help it drive better on sunny days and snowy days.
The Veyron is a better car than the Aero TT in ALL aspects. In all aspects of performance, the Veyron is better. In all aspects of build quality, the Veyron is better. The Veyron is just a much better car. The Aero TT has the sole purpose of top speed, and is not concerned with anything else, and as of right now, it falls short in even that category. Therefore, Veyron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aero TT

[Brokinarrow]

yeah, maybe the owner is happy with that... but, UGH!