Mustangs in deep S%^*... Awesome LS3

[fazm]

Originally Posted by MerF

No, you haven't. You've seen a KB + supporting mods take that engine to 700 rwhp. You can make your Kia have 700 fwhp with enough mods, so these statements meant jack.

The point is what does the engine do in full production form. Most consumers, even us tuner/modifiers, want a kick-ass paltform we can enjoy the warranty on for a few years. That is what the LS3 is all about.

you will have to open your kia's engine up, thats the difference.

cobras have seen over 1000rwhp on the stock longblock.

[darthknight72]

Originally Posted by MerF

No, you haven't. You've seen a KB + supporting mods take that engine to 700 rwhp. You can make your Kia have 700 fwhp with enough mods, so these statements meant jack.

The point is what does the engine do in full production form. Most consumers, even us tuner/modifiers, want a kick-ass paltform we can enjoy the warranty on for a few years. That is what the LS3 is all about.

Actually if you get on the Kenne bell website,you will see that with the mamoth intake you can acheive over 700 hp on the 4.6.thats with stock cams,heads and exaust.Of course if your planning to run that type of boost your gonna have to upgrade your internals.Im sure you would be running 20+ pounds of boost to acheive those levels.My point was the potiental of forced induction.

[MerF]

Originally Posted by darthknight72

Actually if you get on the Kenne bell website,you will see that with the mamoth intake you can acheive over 700 hp on the 4.6.thats with stock cams,heads and exaust.Of course if your planning to run that type of boost your gonna have to upgrade your internals.Im sure you would be running 20+ pounds of boost to acheive those levels.My point was the potiental of forced induction.

Hence "supporting mods". If you have to replace internals, especially in the bottom end, then it's not stock. Period.

[BowtieGuy]

Originally Posted by fazm

you will have to open your kia's engine up, thats the difference.

cobras have seen over 1000rwhp on the stock longblock.

Unless the stock cobra longblock is fully forged, I'm calling bs. There is just no way.

[fazm]

Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

Unless the stock cobra longblock is fully forged, I'm calling bs. There is just no way.

it is

one guy did 1033rwhp through an automatic with a 100% stock longblock on an 03/04 cobra

another did over 1000rwhp through a stock engine on the gt500 also through an automatic

[TAG UR IT]

was it just me, or did that vette seem to be idling a bit rough? either way, can't wait to see what we are able to do with the 2SS (hoping we can still be in warrant).

[BowtieGuy]

Originally Posted by fazm

it is

one guy did 1033rwhp through an automatic with a 100% stock longblock on an 03/04 cobra

another did over 1000rwhp through a stock engine on the gt500 also through an automatic

Wow. From pistons to crank? Impressive. I guess Ford can do something right every now and then.

[BowtieGuy]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

was it just me, or did that vette seem to be idling a bit rough? either way, can't wait to see what we are able to do with the 2SS (hoping we can still be in warrant).

Hah! Unless you know the coolest dealership in the universe, you won't even get warranty after the cam. I know that many of you will argue, but I work at a dealership. I know what will and won't be covered. You would have to have a crazy good service writer to be able to fight insurance or GM over that one.

The only way it could be warrantied is if you worked something out with the service manager. He would probably want it installed in his shop if he was going to cover it though. At 90-120 dollars an hour labor, I can think of other places to spend that money.

Sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it too.

[MerF]

Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

I know what will and won't be covered. You would have to have a crazy good service writer to be able to fight insurance or GM over that one.

I don't think Tag was implying to rebuild the engine and put boost to it...I think he was implying bolt-ons. And there's even some deeper mods that can be slipped in (cams).

Besides, if your alternator eats it and you have LT headers and a full exhaust, they will have to prove that your exhaust fried your alternator before they won't cover it...but I'm SURE you knew that...

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by zebra

"but my GT500 comes from the factory with 330 supercharged cubic inches and dual overhead cams!"
no it doesn't . . . single ohc

whooptie-freakin-do! we're naturally aspirated, got a wicked lope, & are fixin to blow your doors off!
yes we are

sorry, nobody pointed that out yet

[BowtieGuy]

Originally Posted by MerF

Besides, if your alternator eats it and you have LT headers and a full exhaust, they will have to prove that your exhaust fried your alternator before they won't cover it...but I'm SURE you knew that...

I'm SURE you knew that I was talking about anything linked to the modification. Such as putting in a new cam and your engine comes in with a CEL because the timing was improperly adjusted.

[fazm]

Originally Posted by zebra

"but my GT500 comes from the factory with 330 supercharged cubic inches and dual overhead cams!"
no it doesn't . . . single ohc

whooptie-freakin-do! we're naturally aspirated, got a wicked lope, & are fixin to blow your doors off!

Originally Posted by DGthe3

sorry, nobody pointed that out yet

nobody pointed it out because the gt500, like the 03/04 terminators comes with a dual overhead cam, 32v motor, not a single overhead cam

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by fazm

nobody pointed it out because the gt500, like the 03/04 terminators comes with a dual overhead cam, 32v motor, not a single overhead cam

I'm an idiot. I assumed that since the 4.6 was sohc, their 5.4 was too.

Sorry Zebra.

[MerF]

Originally Posted by BowtieGuy

I'm SURE you knew that I was talking about anything linked to the modification. Such as putting in a new cam and your engine comes in with a CEL because the timing was improperly adjusted.

Gotcha. You weren't very clear so wanted to make sure that was understood by all.