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Old 11-27-2008, 01:03 PM   #15
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The term "African American" almost seems racist to me these days. To me, it's a white dude's PC way of saying "those people". They are black. Black is ok. It's ok to be black.

And it's ok for blacks to be thugs, just like it's ok for whites to be white trash. Just like it's ok for a Lations to be illegals. All of us have a darker side to our race. None of us are proud of the lower end of our spectrum.

All that being said, just quit or sue dude. Well you didn't get scathed from this, but the 4 that did should sue...and likely win for being put in that situation without proper planning or protection. If the night club sponsored this event then legally they are liable for anything that happens because of it.
well said this is neither a black thing or white thing, a thug is a thug white,black ,hispanic,etc
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:05 PM   #16
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I hate to say it, but i've heard many of thes thugs and idjits use the fact that the president elect is black so they should be able to do what they want, when they want, how they want, with no reguard for anyone else.
that's what white folks have been thinking for i don't know how many (hundred?) years...

and yes i'm white.
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:37 PM   #17
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Let's get something straight. Any function that draws any group of people can have this happen. It doesn't matter that a rapper hosted the function. It does matter that the location fails to properly equip security. That is why this happens all of the time. Until hostile individuals are repressed, they will frequent places that allow them to pick fights. This happens at every public venue from the urban centers of America to the rural areas. This time, it was a rapper, but it could just as easily be a bunch of white country club rich people next time. Don't make a race issue when it's really a security issue. Sketchy people will go to places that allow them to be sketchy, and this case is just an example of a bunch of violent people congregating in one place for a function. If that function kept the fight under control, then it wouldn't be an opportunity for racist people to blame a racial or ethnic group.
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Old 11-27-2008, 02:25 PM   #18
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Has nothing to do with them being black. Your fellow officer should sue the company owner for doctor's bills and all that as the owner is the one responsible. Sorry to hear it.
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:20 PM   #19
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...African American is better to say than "black" here, "black" is a racist term because "blacks" consider it racist...
then why ain't calling people "white" racist. shouldn't it be "European-American" or something? i'm half white/half black and couldn't care less what people call me. most of the black people i know, including my dad's whole family & my sister's fiancé, call themselves "black", so i don't really see what the big deal is other than some people just being ornery and trying to start crap about it. and like Blur said... the issue at your mall is about rowdy people being allowed to act out. it can happen at any place with any group of people.
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:26 PM   #20
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then why ain't calling people "white" racist. shouldn't it be "European-American" or something? i'm half white/half black and couldn't care less what people call me. most of the black people i know, including my dad's whole family & my sister's fiancé, call themselves "black", so i don't really see what the big deal is other than some people just being ornery and trying to start crap about it. and like Blur said... the issue at your mall is about rowdy people being allowed to act out. it can happen at any place with any group of people.
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Old 11-27-2008, 06:51 PM   #21
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Its the mall's responsibility to provide adequate security for the safety of the employees as well as those in attendance. In Hawai'i there are regulations concerning any type of public gathering, there is a set amount of armed off-duty police for a certain amount of people. These off-duty officers are hired by whoever is putting on the event and keep things in check. That is something that your city counsel should look into if it is not already in the books. I was in Vegas at a Reggae performance couple of years ago and a fight broke out, cops were there in a minute, shut down the strip (It was said that that was the first time that that ever happened), the primary participants of the fight were all Polynesians like me, the focus should not be on the people but the act that was done.
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Old 11-27-2008, 10:48 PM   #22
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African American is better to say than "black" here, "black" is a racist term because "blacks" consider it racist, I really wish it was the way you explained it, but it isn't..
I can guarantee you that's the minority population, and/or it's because of the usage of the word. It's possible to make anything sound racist. But anyway....how about them Lions?
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