The 2011+ Mustang Thread - Page 422

9c1ny · 06-03-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shawn18

Isn't it entirely possible to do the exact same mods to a 2010 SS and achieve a 1/4 mile time in that neighborhood? I dont know alot about drag racing but since the 2 are so close in stock form why would the mustang be so much faster with these mods?

..........either way thats fast damn car they have there

no IRS, lighter car, seems to have a wicked top end

dunno not enough info on them to explain why they mod much easier than 5th gens

9c1ny · 06-03-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EnvyTerra

I would assume so, I am looking at the camaro fast list and the fastest bolt on N/A ss goes 11.22, Maybe it's the weight difference along with the solid rear axle?

about .2 second slower

lol look at the mod list on that car-

1. Gib - 11.22 @ 125.31 mph, (427 ci, Heads/Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Converter, Tune, (L99, A6)

the fastest "bolt on" car without internal engine mods only runs 11.7's

8/10ths slower than the Stang

shawn18 · 06-03-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 9c1ny

lol look at the mod list on that car-

1. Gib - 11.22 @ 125.31 mph, (427 ci, Heads/Cam, LT, Exhaust, CAI, Converter, Tune, (L99, A6)

the fastest "bolt on" car without internal engine mods only runs 11.7's

8/10ths slower than the Stang

Is that running drag radials? I guess if you did some weight reduction on that 11.7 car you might gain a little more but I dont know how to find 8/10's without tubbing the car

.....and even then I dont know if you could gain that much.........there are guys that have had their cars supercharged that are barely getting in the 10's..........that is pretty amazing what they got out of that N/A 5.0 Mustang......kudos to the builder

2SSARMY · 06-03-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shawn18

Is that running drag radials? I guess if you did some weight reduction on that 11.7 car you might gain a little more but I dont know how to find 8/10's without tubbing the car

.....and even then I dont know if you could gain that much.........there are guys that have had their cars supercharged that are barely getting in the 10's..........that is pretty amazing what they got out of that N/A 5.0 Mustang......kudos to the builder

Mustang is just plain lighter. You cut a few hundred pounds off a camaro and it'll be running better times since its 6.2 has a lot more potential.

shawn18 · 06-03-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 2SSARMY

Mustang is just plain lighter. You cut a few hundred pounds off a camaro and it'll be running better times since its 6.2 has a lot more potential.

Well thats what I thought but I didnt know it just seems a 6.2 would be a little more responsive to bolt on mods than a 5.0 would but like I said before I really dont know it seems to make sense like the old saying (there is no replacement for displacement)

9c1ny · 06-03-2010, 08:56 PM

its the chasis thats the problem, throw the LS3 in a 4th gen Camaro with some bolt ons and you will have no problem keeping up with that Mustang

2SSARMY · 06-03-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shawn18

Well thats what I thought but I didnt know it just seems a 6.2 would be a little more responsive to bolt on mods than a 5.0 would but like I said before I really dont know it seems to make sense like the old saying (there is no replacement for displacement)

It is just as responsive, if not more, than the 5.0 to bolt ons. The problem is the IRS and the weight. A camaro may be making more power than the 5.0 running 10s, but the weight and the IRS keep it from keeping up.

DeathChill · 06-03-2010, 09:45 PM

Also, the times on the fast list are by members, where Evolution has a magazine paying for everything so they can focus on getting great times. I would like to see the same thing done for both cars; would be an interesting comparison I'd imagine.

However, not taking anything away from them! I am excited for them to do the twin turbo 5.0, as that's the option I want to go with.

ULTRAZLS1 · 06-03-2010, 10:49 PM

You people do know that an ls1 4th gen has gone high 9's with a stock bottom end NA right? Heads and cam stock bottom end... 9.82 @ 134 mph

It is the texas-speed and performance car.

No one has taken a 5th gen out and did anything close to what they are doing with this mustang. Sure private owners have done things similar....but thats not even close to the same comparison.

Im not sure why everyone is so riled up.

ULTRAZLS1 · 06-03-2010, 10:50 PM

You people do know that an ls1 4th gen has gone high 9's with a stock bottom end NA right? Heads and cam stock bottom end... 9.82 @ 134 mph

It is the texas-speed and performance car.

No one has taken a 5th gen out and did anything close to what they are doing with this mustang. Sure private owners have done things similar....but thats not even close to the same comparison.

8cd03gro · 06-03-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

You people do know that an ls1 4th gen has gone high 9's with a stock bottom end NA right? Heads and cam stock bottom end... 9.82 @ 134 mph

It is the texas-speed and performance car.

No one has taken a 5th gen out and did anything close to what they are doing with this mustang. Sure private owners have done things similar....but thats not even close to the same comparison.

Im not sure why everyone is so riled up.

Not to take away from texas speed's car, but that thing had more than 500 lbs of weight reduction, heads/cam and bolt ons. We're talking about a bolt on GT here running 10's in the first month of production. Whether you like it or not, that's very impressive.

big hammer · 06-03-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

You people do know that an ls1 4th gen has gone high 9's with a stock bottom end NA right? Heads and cam stock bottom end... 9.82 @ 134 mph

It is the texas-speed and performance car.

No one has taken a 5th gen out and did anything close to what they are doing with this mustang. Sure private owners have done things similar....but thats not even close to the same comparison.

Im not sure why everyone is so riled up.

word. what the new ford 5.0 is doing isn't ground breaking all around, just ground breaking for ford.

ULTRAZLS1 · 06-03-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Not to take away from texas speed's car, but that thing had more than 500 lbs of weight reduction, heads/cam and bolt ons. We're talking about a bolt on GT here running 10's in the first month of production. Whether you like it or not, that's very impressive.

Bolt on GT...ok man. It has slicks and skinny's with suspension work and is cutting a 1.4 60 ft. Bolt ons, tune, weight reduction...it has something like 420rwhp...not far from a heads and cam ls1.

It runs good yes...right where it should for the power and weight...nothing new.

8cd03gro · 06-03-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathChill

Also, the times on the fast list are by members, where Evolution has a magazine paying for everything so they can focus on getting great times. I would like to see the same thing done for both cars; would be an interesting comparison I'd imagine.

However, not taking anything away from them! I am excited for them to do the twin turbo 5.0, as that's the option I want to go with.

Power Adders (Nitrous, Turbo, Supercharger)

1. Brooksracing/LMR - 9.91 @ 124 mph, (427 ci, Supercharger F-1R, LS7 Heads, Built 6L80 E, Stall, Skinnies, 18'' Hoosiers, (A6)

Who cares who did it? It's not like the modifications would do any less on another car. A magazine paying for what? Dyno time on their own dyno a FEW bolt ons and some tires?

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DeathChill Drives: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Mission, BC Posts: 862	Also, the times on the fast list are by members, where Evolution has a magazine paying for everything so they can focus on getting great times. I would like to see the same thing done for both cars; would be an interesting comparison I'd imagine. However, not taking anything away from them! I am excited for them to do the twin turbo 5.0, as that's the option I want to go with.

06-03-2010, 10:49 PM	#5903
ULTRAZLS1 Drives: 14 Silverado LTZ Z71, 16 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 4,418	You people do know that an ls1 4th gen has gone high 9's with a stock bottom end NA right? Heads and cam stock bottom end... 9.82 @ 134 mph It is the texas-speed and performance car. No one has taken a 5th gen out and did anything close to what they are doing with this mustang. Sure private owners have done things similar....but thats not even close to the same comparison. Im not sure why everyone is so riled up.

06-03-2010, 10:50 PM	#5904
ULTRAZLS1 Drives: 14 Silverado LTZ Z71, 16 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 4,418	You people do know that an ls1 4th gen has gone high 9's with a stock bottom end NA right? Heads and cam stock bottom end... 9.82 @ 134 mph It is the texas-speed and performance car. No one has taken a 5th gen out and did anything close to what they are doing with this mustang. Sure private owners have done things similar....but thats not even close to the same comparison.