The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by BlackieRay

Good times, but there are 1999 Cobras doing 11.5s with bolt-ons and 4.11 gears. So no, there is nothing here that is groundbreaking. Try again.

That's pretty awesome, didn't know that

[will69camaro]

I'm happy the car is a performer. About time the GT was a good rival for the Camaro.

Still call it a drivers race stock for stock and pretty much mod for mod from what I'm seeing. I will say I'm impressed by the gains w/ mods. I was one of the people saying I didn't see much gaining on this car.

Congrats to ford, looks like a nice little car. Now if only I could get over the looks I'd consider picking one up also.

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by BlackieRay

Good times, but there are 1999 Cobras doing 11.5s with bolt-ons and 4.11 gears. So no, there is nothing here that is groundbreaking. Try again.

you are wrong. they are not doing it with off road X-pipe, filter and tune. even with 4.11's. where do you get that stuff? with equal bolt-ons a 99-01 cobra will run 12.9's on average.


trying to quote modular ford racing results in a thread full of modular fanatics is fail.

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

What's that got to do with it? Maybe the parts weren't available yet. He was just stating there are 1999 Cobra's doing 11.5 with bolt ons.

yeah leaving out that the 99-01 you are talking about had every bolt-on. and a lot of those have PSR intakes.

[assasinator]

mach 1's have 3.73 factory, and getting into the 11.5's requires everything besides cams.


4V Naturally Aspirated 1/4 ET:
1 . Micheal Tymensky (Modular Performance) - 9.36 @ 143.12 ( 2001 COBRA 4V 5.0 )
2 . Joe Hutchins - 9.96 @ 132.00 ( 1997 COBRA C4 - SHM )
3 . Shawn Johnson - 10.21 @ 133.90 ( 1997 T-BIRD 4V )
4 . Al Papitto (Boss 330) - 10.21 @ 133.86 ( 1997 COBRA 5 SPD 5.4 )
5 . Paul Svinicki - 10.61 @ 126.00 ( 2000 COBRA R 4V 5.0- FR500 PARTS )
6 . Chuck Lawrence - 10.88 @ 126.00 ( 2001 COBRA POWER GLIDE - FR500 PARTS )
7 . Steve Ferguson - 10.94 @ 124.00 ( 1999 COBRA C4 )
8 . John Gibson - 11.20 @ 116.00 ( 4V JERICO - ELECTROMOTIVE )
9 . Bob Cosby - 11.43 @ 117.00 ( 1999 COBRA 5 SPD )
10 . Robert Hindman - 11.55 @ 114.00 ( 2001 COBRA POWER GLIDE )
11 . JIMS SVT - 11.60 @ 115.48 ( 1998 COBRA 5 SPD )
12 . Dan Russo - 11.66 @ 114.28 ( 1998 COBRA 5 SPD )
13 . NOTCH395 - 11.80 @ 116.00 ( 2000 COBRA R - SOLID )
14 . Modster - 11.86 @ 114.85 ( COBRA 5 SPD )
15 . Barry Shepard - 11.90 @ ( 1998 COBRA 5 SPD )
16 . HIPSI - 11.93 @ 113.33 ( 1999 COBRA 5 SPD )



the 11.6 was jim. here is what he had to do...

The only thing I changed from the last time I went was the front coilover springs,put a cage in it and a air bag in the rear.The motor is all stock even the intake heads,cams ,rods,pistons all the stuff. Heres a list of my mods 4.56 gear. moser 33 spline axles, spool, c-clip eliminators, welded axle tubes and tork boxes, rear end girdle, south side lift bars, home made adj uppers, aluminum, home made sub frame connectors, pro 5.0 shifter, line lock, home made aluminum power pipe, ported mass air, stock intake with imrc delete kit, steeda underdrives, hooker ceramic coated long tubes with flanges welded to them, home made 3" X Pipe, home made 3" mufflers, 90/10 struts, 3way adj shocks, qa1 k member, home made a arms,cut rear springs,coilovers with 14''/150lbs springs, egr delete, pcv valve delete, home made aluminum racing seat, rear seat delete, stock rebuilt t45, removed front swaybar, diablo delta chip, home made ram air through the headlight, center line warriors 15x4 for the front and 15x10 on the rear with 26x10 m/t drags.I think thats it.
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weight reductions, chasis mods, slicks, gears, all custom made boltons, 4.56, ram air, etc.

so to say any old cobra will run 11's is wrong. it take a lot to get them there and a professional driver like jim. the 2011 has a few suspension mods, x-pipe, mufflers, filter, tune.

Im not trying to pile on. but now we are down to the 99-01 is an equal to the 2011gt. if thats the case thefull bolt-on 2010 camaro SS is really equal to a full bolt on 99 cobra. ? i think not.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Dont forget the bogarts and the so called "drag radials" LOL...they look like full size slicks to me. It also burnt the stock clutch after 12 passes. The final 11.8 run was with an aftermarket clutch as well.

The car is hitting 1.6 60fts and lifting the wheels at 405rwhp and 3600 lbs. Suspension work, bolt-ons, tune, bogarts, aftermarket clutch, a VERY FAST track as well which no one seems to mention. The stock manifolds are a good design and so is the CAI. THe car has about ~20hp left on the table I would guess.

If it didnt run elevens I would laugh.

[assasinator]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Dont forget the bogarts and the so called "drag radials" LOL...they look like full size slicks to me. It also burnt the stock clutch after 12 passes. The final 11.8 run was with an aftermarket clutch as well.

The car is hitting 1.6 60fts and lifting the wheels at 405rwhp and 3600 lbs. Suspension work, bolt-ons, tune, bogarts, aftermarket clutch, a VERY FAST track as well which no one seems to mention. The stock manifolds are a good design and so is the CAI. THe car has about ~20hp left on the table I would guess.

If it didnt run elevens I would laugh.

agreed with all of that

et streets are almost the equal of slicks. i agree with the 20rwhp or so left. 425rwhp is going to be max i think. but 435 rwhp is about the same for the SS. cams changes things for the SS, we dont know about the GT yet with cams.

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Dont forget the bogarts and the so called "drag radials" LOL...they look like full size slicks to me. It also burnt the stock clutch after 12 passes. The final 11.8 run was with an aftermarket clutch as well.

The car is hitting 1.6 60fts and lifting the wheels at 405rwhp and 3600 lbs. Suspension work, bolt-ons, tune, bogarts, aftermarket clutch, a VERY FAST track as well which no one seems to mention. The stock manifolds are a good design and so is the CAI. THe car has about ~20hp left on the table I would guess.

If it didnt run elevens I would laugh.

What is a "FAST TRACK" I didn't know that was a mod???
would good weather be considered aftermarket as well?

[ULTRAZLS1]

Only a couple guys have done this same kind of thing with the camaro on this site and they have run 11.7 and 11.8.

No matter which way you look at it we arent going to run away from this mustang. Maybe if both are max street build NA the camaro could have an edge...but that would be about it.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Unfair

What is a "FAST TRACK" I didn't know that was a mod???
would good weather be considered aftermarket as well?

No. I dont follow what you are saying.

I hope you arent trying to say that the track and or conditions arent a factor.

[Unfair]

ultimately the 6.2 liter is going to have the edge yes, but it's gotta shed that weight to take advantage of the edge. and also that IRS setup is less ideal for drag racing (better ride of course)

Yes I know the conditions are a factor, but you are saying "nobody mentioned the fast track" as if it was some sort of extra device on the car.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Unfair

ultimately the 6.2 liter is going to have the edge yes, but it's gotta shed that weight to take advantage of the edge. and also that IRS setup is less ideal for drag racing (better ride of course)

The IRS isnt too bad.

Check out screen name walkermuffler.

He was cutting 1.6 60fts with his camaro on 17inch bogarts. Bolt ons. He was running 11.7-8's from 114mph to 118mph.

Orangechevy had a similar set up with 18inch bogarts and was running 11.8's.

These are the only two guys on the site who did this kind of set-up and took it seriously with a MT LS3 (much like the evo mustang)

I guess if you took it (conditions) as me saying it was a device than so be it. When a mustang guy hears about a 12.5 in a stock camaro a guarantee you the first thing he would say is something about the track and or conditions. It is a BIG FACTOR.

When a car doesnt run well....most will scamper to the excuse of the track as well. Like when this car only ran a 13.2 initially....the excuse was the track prep was sloppy on that day. Did I call them out and make a wise comment about it? NOPE...I guess I am above that sort of thing.

[assasinator]

if i has an SS and i wanted to nullify the one advantage the 2011Gt has, i would get my heads ported. i would get the bolt-ons and ported l92's.

[assasinator]

well guys track conditions are fine, but correct the times. if you have a negative DA, then dont say you ran a 11.52 with a da of -1800 at atco. whats going to happen here is, next spring at negative DA tracks that stang is going to put down ludicrous times. the non corrected time is what is going to be reported. ive had a car with no other changes run an 8.5 then on a hot day run 9.1. you think i ever mention the 9.1? nope i dont. its agame. thats all it is. conditions this time of the year can still be very good for uncorrected times.