How did Ford get 400hp+ - Page 2

youngoliver · 05-04-2010, 09:49 PM

who cares haha

Ravirn · 05-04-2010, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LibLoather

...out of a 5.0 liter engine in the 2011 Mustang and it took GM 6.2 liters to do the same?

Initially, I thought this was a joke.
Now I'm not so sure.

Obvious trolling aside, let's just say that Ford has more hp per ci, but throw on identical bolt-ons and you'll see a huge difference in gains.

TheClassicCarKid · 05-04-2010, 09:53 PM

Why does a motorcycle with a one liter engine make 150+
size has far less to do with horsepower than design

ORANGE U NV · 05-04-2010, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunkelz28

Torque !!!!!! It means you could have fat girls in your car and it will still be fast

shank0668 · 05-04-2010, 09:53 PM

LS3 will be more responsive to mods. And mustang, replace cam'(s)

80Zedder · 05-04-2010, 10:19 PM

Because real men brag about our displacement.

You guys can now proudly say again, i own a 5 litre eater.

spyderbuddy · 05-04-2010, 10:27 PM

pretty much how chevy got 312 hp out of 3.6l v6

motorhead · 05-04-2010, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunkelz28

Torque !!!!!! It means you could have fat girls in your car and it will still be fast

Driving the camaro vs the mustang is like driving around with two fat girls all the time.

back to the topic, The mustang 5.0 is an all new motor and it's a very efficient air pump. Wait until the new GM V-8's come out. I'm sure your going to see the small motor with more power theme from the blue tie boys also.

OUTATIME · 05-04-2010, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunkelz28

Torque !!!!!! It means you could have fat girls in your car and it will still be fast

With a car that looks like this, you could easily keep the weight down though.

v6sonoma · 05-04-2010, 10:38 PM

Simple. Their engine was a clean sheet design. Ours was an existing engine (the 5.7 aka 350) that was punched out to 6.2L Foreign cars get almost as much out of far less. The current WRX STI gets 305 hp out of only 2.5L. It's not that GM couldn't do it. It's that we don't want them to. Just make a post where the Z28 will get a turbo 4cyl and watch the angry posts fly on in.

spyderbuddy · 05-04-2010, 10:40 PM

but gm is doing just that with the v6's

helmincamaro · 05-04-2010, 11:04 PM

cost probably has a lot to do with it. Ford started over from scratch basically while chevy kept it the way its been for years. Sure chevy could... but should they... Just look what Porsche can do, they have a 530 horsepower naturally aspirated 6 cylinder.... but then again look at the cost.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-04-2010, 11:09 PM

It's real easy...Ford took over a decade to figure it out with a "superior" engine design.
And even then they needed things like CAI and headers...

GM's been doing it since 2001 with the LS6.

PoorMansCamaro · 05-04-2010, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v6sonoma

Simple. Their engine was a clean sheet design. Ours was an existing engine (the 5.7 aka 350) that was punched out to 6.2L Foreign cars get almost as much out of far less. The current WRX STI gets 305 hp out of only 2.5L. It's not that GM couldn't do it. It's that we don't want them to. Just make a post where the Z28 will get a turbo 4cyl and watch the angry posts fly on in.

that comes with a turbo.

05-04-2010, 10:38 PM	#24
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	Simple. Their engine was a clean sheet design. Ours was an existing engine (the 5.7 aka 350) that was punched out to 6.2L Foreign cars get almost as much out of far less. The current WRX STI gets 305 hp out of only 2.5L. It's not that GM couldn't do it. It's that we don't want them to. Just make a post where the Z28 will get a turbo 4cyl and watch the angry posts fly on in. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

05-04-2010, 11:09 PM	#27
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	It's real easy...Ford took over a decade to figure it out with a "superior" engine design. And even then they needed things like CAI and headers... GM's been doing it since 2001 with the LS6. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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05-04-2010, 09:49 PM	#15
youngoliver Drives: 2SS/RS SIM -- Lifted 99' GMC Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: California Posts: 558	who cares haha

05-04-2010, 09:53 PM	#19
shank0668 Drives: '14 LML/'06 LJ/'76 Trans Am Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,438 View My Garage	LS3 will be more responsive to mods. And mustang, replace cam'(s)

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80Zedder Cheif Pounderhard Drives: 80camaro/Avalanche/srt8charger Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in the vault Posts: 547	Because real men brag about our displacement. You guys can now proudly say again, i own a 5 litre eater.

05-04-2010, 10:27 PM	#21
spyderbuddy Drives: 2010 RS Inferno Orange Metallic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Albany, Ga. Posts: 3,474 View My Garage	pretty much how chevy got 312 hp out of 3.6l v6

05-04-2010, 10:40 PM	#25
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05-04-2010, 11:04 PM	#26
helmincamaro Official Lounge BAMF Drives: '97 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kannapolis, NC Posts: 13,576 View My Garage	cost probably has a lot to do with it. Ford started over from scratch basically while chevy kept it the way its been for years. Sure chevy could... but should they... Just look what Porsche can do, they have a 530 horsepower naturally aspirated 6 cylinder.... but then again look at the cost.