The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[PQ]

Originally Posted by todd03blown

wow some of you folks really have issues......its a FREAKING CAR!!!!!!!! As a few other posters have said; ENJOY what you have as that is what matters!!

This is truly a hesterical thread....LMFAO....I would hate to live the life some of you live the way you are reacting about this new mustang and the MT comparison.

It's called competition. And it's fun. I want my car to be faster than his. So what. I'll spend my time and money on what I want.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by todd03blown

yep competition makes the world go round just odd how some people get so bent out of shape. That is my only point.

I agree there. Some people actually let it ruin their week. lol

I've been known at times to let it get to me but not to the arguing level. When th Sooners lose a big game, I will be depressed the rest of the day. lmao

Pathetic, but true.

But the whole thread is not like that.

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by todd03blown

wow some of you folks really have issues......its a FREAKING CAR!!!!!!!! As a few other posters have said; ENJOY what you have as that is what matters!!

This is truly a hesterical thread....LMFAO....I would hate to live the life some of you live the way you are reacting about this new mustang and the MT comparison.

If its just a car why do you feel the need to join message boards about it. Do you join message boards about lawn mowers? Blenders? Toilets?

Cars are one of my passions, along with home theaters and a few other things. I post because I enjoy debate over vehicles. Nobody forced you here to sign up. It wasnt mandatory when you bought your car.

As for enjoying my car as it came? Not gonna happen. Why do you care about how I enjoy my car anyways. I mean you dont care about how I use my blender or toilet or blu-ray player. Why do you care about my car. You might be one of the guys who cares about it his purse matches his car. Its not me. I care about performance. I also care about the competition because its fun to have competition.

When you watch (if you do) sports do you not get upset when your team makes a stupid trade or get excited when they get a big name. Do you get pissed when they lose to a rival team?

Maybe you dont care about any of those, but I do. Thats why this site is here. You can rag on me all you want about me wanting the Camaro to be faster. Of course I do, I busted my ass off and sold my last Camaro to be able to afford this one. Maybe you richie rich's out there swiming in money dont give a shit about cars because you can buy 5 of them. But mine is special. Its my first and only new car I will ever buy. Plus I do all my own work as I did my last Camaro and Camaro before that. So yeah I put a little pride into it. Is that wrong

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by PQ

I agree there. Some people actually let it ruin their week. lol

I've been known at times to let it get to me but not to the arguing level. When th Sooners lose a big game, I will be depressed the rest of the day. lmao

Pathetic, but true.

Wow you basically ended up being my example in my last post that we posted at the same time. LOL. You are the sports equivelent of me to cars.

[Unfair]

Enjoying your car and healthy competition is one thing, but always putting your car in the shadow of another car and wanting to one up to that car it just feels wrong.
That actually shows a great deal of care for that other car.

That's not appreciating what you have. My car isn't a brand new 2010 camaro SS that doesn't bother me. I don't long for horsepower or obsessed with beating another car becaue I love my car the way it is.

hope that made sense sorry it was a bit long.

You are happy with your car but the very reason you want to change it, is because OF ANOTHER CAR?

[truth411]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

I am sure they didnt bog the camaro on purpose. Maybe the surface that day was hard to hook for the camaro...hence the 13.1 1/4 and 4.7 to 60. They have gone as quick as 12.9 and 4.5 to 60 with the camaro. (traps were same so conditions were no worse or better for performance)

Even with both cars hooking the GT still looks to have about a .2 advantage in the 1/4 and 0-60 on average. Better gearing, lighter car and plenty of power. Nothing to lose sleep over but the new GT is definitely faster than the camaro. (well quicker....both are back and forth in traps from the 4 tests so far)

It is funny that the camaro beat the challenger last year but they just decided to pick the challenger this time. They didnt like the feel of the interior so they picked the car with no performance advantage in ANY aspect with a 10k higher price tag. Sound VERY realistic to me.


Good job FORD.... but hold on to your ass for chevys response in the coming years (not sure much will haappen in 2011) The LS3 will be entering its fourth year of use in the corvette in 2011. I wouldnt be surprised if they are working on another power plant. The LS2 only lasted 3 years lol.


**** As for the regular gas thing. I highly doubt they used regular in the SS. They wold have to be stupid. The traps were also fine in the camaro in this test....they just werent hooking quite as well this time.

Actually we may see the Gen V V8 in the 2011 MY corvette since they are running it in Lemans GT2 (Rules state they have to use a production engine). So assuming the pattern continues of the camaro getting the vette V8 a year later. 2012 model year camaro would be a great response to the mustang. From what I have been hearing of the Gen V, it is awesome. All new block (not a revison) with the camshaft moved higher in the block for less valve train weight, shorter and stiffer pushrods, D.I., greater Hp density per liter, better fuel economy, less emissons etc. Ford has done a great job catching up to GM power wise, just in time to get pushed back down again with Gen V right around the corner.

[Inferno2SS]

Originally Posted by Unfair

Enjoying your car and healthy competition is one thing, but always putting your car in the shadow of another car and wanting to one up to that car it just feels wrong.
That actually shows a great deal of care for that other car.

That's not appreciating what you have. My car isn't a brand new 2010 camaro SS that doesn't bother me. I don't long for horsepower or obsessed with beating another car becaue I love my car the way it is.

hope that made sense sorry it was a bit long.

You are happy with your car but the very reason you want to change it, is because OF ANOTHER CAR?

If that is the case people are going to be miserable or buying a new car every year. I love my car, its fun to see what else is going on but Im not going to like my car any less when the Z come out. If I decide I want more speed I can add mods.

[Whiskey Tango Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by Unfair

Enjoying your car and healthy competition is one thing, but always putting your car in the shadow of another car and wanting to one up to that car it just feels wrong.
That actually shows a great deal of care for that other car.

That's not appreciating what you have. My car isn't a brand new 2010 camaro SS that doesn't bother me. I don't long for horsepower or obsessed with beating another car becaue I love my car the way it is.

hope that made sense sorry it was a bit long.

How does it show care for the other car? When I want the Cubs to beat the white sox it means I care about the white sox? LOL

Its not a penis thing or an envy issue ect ect. I just enjoy it. I can accept when things are better faster, but when its only a gear swap away or a swaybar swap away...thats like nothing to me.

For the record my past 3 vehicles have been fords. I dont hate ford. I hate toyota and honda, but not ford. But I do enjoy ragging on mustangs. Ive loved the fact that they needed to be supercharged to be competitive to bolt-on ls1s. Now they up the ante and everyone is bagging on the 2010 camaro when its a whopping 2-3 tenths faster when its 200lbs lighter with a steeper gear.

Obviously according to your standards ford cares very much about the camaro to get the mustangs performance up to where it barely edges it out. All Im saying is it wont take much for the 2011 camaro to top it, and a couple bolt-ons and or a gear swap is all it will take for a 2010 camaro to top out a 2011 mustang. I look forward to lining up with them.

[Zeus]

No way to twist this one.


GT > SS > SRT

[jrc1122]

The cool thing is The new Mustang will not be considered the slow odd ball anymore.

They are all quick now.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

The cool thing is The new Mustang will not be considered the slow odd ball anymore.

They are all quick now.

Isn't the V6 Mustang faster than the Challenger R/T?




Talk about a slap in the face.

[mrray13]

Originally Posted by syr74

MT reported observed mileage and mileage as rated by the epa which is 17/26 for the GT manual whichever gear set you have, I'm not sure what else they could have done here?



It says the same thing for Mustang GT, which has a recommended octane rating of 91. If it's true and hurting the Camaro, then it's hurting the Mustang too.

I seriously doubt that gas mileage will stay the same, especially since they show the Mustang averaging 2mpg less then either the Camaro and the Challanger.

Does the Mustang have two octane maps in it's programming? One where it'll detune the car to run the lower octane? If not, then the lower octane in the Mustang won't hurt it as much as the Camaro, which does have two octane maps in it's programming.

Originally Posted by Stew

Why would they ompare a factory car to a tuner car??????

Isn't the GT500 basiclly Ford's tuner Mustang? It's a limited production SVO built car, correct? If so, then comparing it to the ZL575 would be the right comparision. SLP is equilivant to SVO, so it would be apples to apples. At least IMHO.

[Unfair]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

The cool thing is The new Mustang will not be considered the slow odd ball anymore.

They are all quick now.

Umm... The 05-10 mustangs were faster than your G8 budd
stock 13 sec cars aren't slow.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by nashstat

Base price for a Mustang GT: $30,495
Base price for a Camaro 1SS: $31,795

According to a C&D Video: This comes with 19" wheels and non-brembo brakes. Brembos alone cost $1700 and that too just for the FRONTS.

Not sure what the 20" upgrades will cost... Anyways I would guess that the Mustang would be at least $1k when specked out to what a 1SS Base Camaro has.

My point being when people say that the Mustang is cheaper than the Camaro, that's because it comes with less features!

The Brembo package offers the P Zero tires and ads Brembo brakes up front. Brembo's are standard on the REAR.

To get the performance, if not better than the glass roofed car MT tested, it cost about $700 more than a similarly optioned camaro.

And apparently that extra $700 dollars will actually get you superior performance.