Why I'll Never Buy an Import Again.

[dieseldave24v]

Yup and the T6060 in my chally was made in Mexico. I am sure gm will get them from there as well

[camaro5]

What exactly failed on what year and model?

There's a term in the service industry- "Known Product Failure"

Your ind. mechanic says it's common.

If we can find a service bulletin labeling this KPF, you could really strengthen your bargaining power.

Most service managers can approve a repair with a simple stroke of the KPF pen.

If they continue to play hardball, it could be taken to court, but that may not make dollars and sense.

PM me if you think there's a KPF issue I can help you document, in case I'm not on here so much.

Dan

[GTAHVIT]

^It doesn't appear to be a KPF. But I will see what I can find. The diagnosis in the end was a #1 cylinder wrist pin.

[camaro5]

hmm

Here's what I found so far...

Kit :
April 26th, 2007 at 5:25 pm


I bought my 2004 Mazda3 5 door automatic brand new. Have had all service done in a timely fashion at my local Mazda dealership. At about 55,000 miles it began an intermittent very loud ticking noise from the engine compartment. Got it into to the dealership at 59k for 60,000 mi service and the diagnosis was: NEED NEW ENGINE. Believe it’s a wrist pin problem. Saw on-line that ‘03 Protoge had this problem. Although it is a different engine, am I the tip of the iceberg? Do you think this first year Mazda3 will start failing for more people?
After running diagnostics on a few different days and some haggling, the regional rep is picking up most of the cost, service is discounting their work but I’m still stuck for over $1,000 not to mention the $479 just spent on the 60k service. I’m so frustrated and angry. I haven’t been given a write up on diagnostics and results. Don’t have written estimate -yet- but want one! Do i get my money back when the recall occurs?

Asked: Jan 04, 2008 - 06:47 PM
Status: Closed

mazdalemon
mazda3 '04 -engine replaced at 55k- bad wrist pin. Anyone else having problems? Over new 12k warr. noisey again!

04 mazda3 hatchback- automatic. Just over the 50k warranty it developed a loud ticking noise. All service has been done at dealership in a timely fashion. Tests showed that it had a bad wrist pin and needed a new engine. New 12k warranty has expired and it's noisey again...Just at the 12k service, I asked dealership to run tests on engine again, said it was fine. I'm so disappointed. I loved everything about the car but it's a lemon...

EDIT: Well I searched some Mazda3 forums and didn't find it, so I'm afraid this may not be resolvable.

I have to make a point of always putting those oil receipts right in the glove compartment. I haven't been careful about that.

Any manufacturer could deny a claim based on docs.

Was this the selling dealer?

Have you climbed the dealership management ladder?

Let me know if I can help.

[Conflict]

Originally Posted by MerF

Nissans are, I know that...bot sure about Mazda.

And if that means you are calling them Domestics, then get ready to own your big LS3 powered import, because it's made in Canada, not the US.

The semantics can be argued, and I actually support Nissan because they did build plants in the country for jobs.

But the profits still go back to Japan, not here, so it's still an import.

I guess but as long as it creates some jobs (dealers, mechanics, etc.) than its not so bad

o and why does canada make camaros?? , my 95 was Canadian

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by camaro5

hmm

Here's what I found so far...


EDIT: Well I searched some Mazda3 forums and didn't find it, so I'm afraid this may not be resolvable.

I have to make a point of always putting those oil receipts right in the glove compartment. I haven't been careful about that.

Any manufacturer could deny a claim based on docs.

Was this the selling dealer?

Have you climbed the dealership management ladder?

Let me know if I can help.

That's pretty much exactly what happened to me.

And yes, I went all the way to Mazda corporate offices in the U.S. They were the ones who denied my claim. The dealer was on my side through this whole thing. They did the inspection and recommended that Mazda pay for the repair. Mazda Corporate said no. This is not a case of a dealer trying to get out of work. In fact the Dealer wanted the work because they get paid either way. Instead Mada HQ said, we will not repair your car without docs. We don't care what the technician says...

[MerF]

Originally Posted by Conflict

I guess but as long as it creates some jobs (dealers, mechanics, etc.) than its not so bad

o and why does canada make camaros?? , my 95 was Canadian

No idea, someone who knows more about the inner workings of deals will have to step in.

[camaro5]

Originally Posted by MerF

No idea, someone who knows more about the inner workings of deals will have to step in.

I read a while back the clincher was Oshawa bargained that they would sacrifice one break per shift to gain the contract.

I think it was between them and Oklahoma City.

GM will be able to manufacture around 20 more Camaros per month because of this one less break.

Short answer: $$$$$$




Here I found an article:

by Eric Bryant on Apr 19th 2006 at 7:57AM

UAW wants new Camaro built in Oklahoma City


With the reintroduction of the Chevrolet Camaro all but certain, General Motors and the UAW are now trying to figure out where to build the beast. Officials from the union are making a pitch for the recently idled Oklahoma City plant, which assembled long-wheelbase versions of the Chevy TrailBlazer and GMC Envoy. By securing the Camaro, the plant would presumably also "win" the assembly of other Zeta-based vehicles.

We're not quite sure how this plays into the reports from last month that the CAW made significant concessions in an attempt to secure the assembly of the Camaro, but it's possible - and we're only speculating here - that the OK City plant's previous RWD product may give it an advantage.

[Source: The Detroit News]

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/04/19/u...oklahoma-city/

The 4th gen in Quebec is an epic unto itself, and you will need to search Google and read for hours. It is amazing.

When I lived in VT, I drove to Quebec to get my kids, and went by the F-Body plant every other week.

Pretty cool looking lot full of F-cars.

[t3chfr3ak]

I dont understand why everyone places a car as either domestic or foreign? Most cars are made in North America anyways. There is no such thing as domestic or foreign. There is no such thing as a US car. The Camaros built in Canada. Does that make it a Canadian car? I dont even care anymore. Actually... isnt everything made in China??? hehe I need another "domestic" Canadian beer. Actually I think Ive had too many.

[Design1stCode2nd]

It’s not uncommon for any brand to want to see if the car was maintained properly if they are to cover significant repairs. I’ve had this issue with both domestic and foreign makes. Plenty of instances of Japanese, American and German companies pushing issues under the rug to avoid costly recalls.

How much Ford has ownership of Mazda has nothing to do with it. Ford had a controlling interest (by Japanese law 33%) in the past but Mazda was run by Mazda and not Ford. Think of it more as an alliance of two car manufacturers to allow parts sharing. I.E. Ford Fusion is on the Mazda 6 platform, euro focus, Volvo S40 and Mazda 3 were on the same platform.

A lot of people and I can understand it and would probably do the same have had a lemon or an issue with a car and swear off the brand altogether. When you are spending that kind of money why chance a repeat issue.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by Design1stCode2nd

It really depends on the dealer. It’s not uncommon for any brand to want to see if the car was maintained properly if they are to cover significant repairs. I’ve had this issue with both domestic and foreign makes. Plenty of instances of Japanese, American and German companies pushing issues under the rug to avoid costly recalls.

How much Ford has ownership of Mazda has nothing to do with it. Ford had a controlling interest (by Japanese law 33%) in the past but Mazda was run by Mazda and not Ford. Think of it more as an alliance of two car manufacturers to allow parts sharing. I.E. Ford Fusion is on the Mazda 6 platform, euro focus, Volvo S40 and Mazda 3 were on the same platform.

A lot of people and I can understand it and would probably do the same have had a lemon or an issue with a car and swear off the brand altogether. When you are spending that kind of money why chance a repeat issue.

That's really the heart of the issue. I got sucked in to the public perception that Foreign cars were better. So, I shopped around and found the Mazda3 to be a great value for the price. Up until this I had nothing but great things to say about the car. And yes, it is my fault for not keeping the records. My complaint came from the fact that their own mechanic said the car had not been neglected as did a second independant mechanic. They still refused for lack of documentation. And in their defence, the rules say to have them. Again, I think in this tough economy, if they can find a way out they will. Maybe a year ago, they would have taken care of me?

[Design1stCode2nd]

I agree with you, it would go a long way in customer retention to just cover these sorts of things. Then you would be saying hey I had a problem but they took care of me instead of crap I got a lemon and I'll shop somewhere else.

Can't fault you in choosing the Mazda 3 though, it's normally a good car and has done very well in all reviews I've read.

[KoTToN]

my gf in high school had an 01 Mitsubishi eclipse automatic that would lose all power at random times. Freeway 60+ , 35+ , residential roads every once in a while it would just shut off. Had the battery checked, alt, cpu no one could figure it out. On top of that her paint clearcoat came off in 03, the car was always garaged so go figure.

Since she bought the car used in 2002, they would not warrenty her repairs since she was the 2nd owner.

To compare my 1987 k5 blazer had 250+ miles on it and not once did I have any problems with the engine, transmission, or paint.

Imports = failports

[camaro guy]

what??? the camaro is near 100% import