The 2011+ Mustang Thread

[The_Blur]

We are merged. Keep posting. You guys have done a great job keeping this thread friendly and objective. We've been watching.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by AngryAmish

And you sir, can just keep "rollin', in your 5.0."

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I figured you would side with the mustang on this one.

Hey were you at the show n' shine this weekend. Clem won first place for best blinders.

[MikeSVX]

Im thinking they tweaked a little extra out of the GT for the Media, considering the dyno numbers are so far above the Ford claimed numbers.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by nhra stocker

Low 12's and 3 or 4 tenths faster !!!!!

Fair enough, I'm still skeptical that a stock Camaro can run 12.5's, especially since I've known a couple of the guys who have put up miraculous 'stock' C5 and C6 times and have a deeper understanding of how that all went down, but I tend to keep things like that to myself for the sake of politeness. No need to start hurling insults here since we don't really know each other. We all have our opinions.

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

We are comparing times run from the same mags. so far we have edmunds test that ran the same exact times with the camaro as the mustang. We also have motor trend with a 1 tenth difference and same trap. And yes...the weather could have been different...why do you assume it is in the mustangs favor?

Now that argument has some meat on it's bones. Weather may have been perfect for those runs, but I seriously doubt it unless they were testing in Florida. (seriously)

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

You can speculate all you want. The numbers we have so far are not in favor of your argument. Everything you say applies to the camaro as well. It has also run faster than the mags say. But in initial tests by the SAME MAGS during the SAME time of year are showing times to be nearly identical. If this doesnt mean something than what does? Im not sure what else I can try to prove. All you can give so far is speculation and hope.

What am I hoping for? Worst case scenario on it's first day in the hands of the major auto rags the Mustang GT ran a better time than any of them have ever managed with a Camaro SS. The future can only make things better for me since we can't un-do the 12.8 second run. It may not get better, but I doubt it.

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Arent you one of the members that laughed at the 2010 camaros .6 tenth advantage and 6mph trap speed over the 2010 mustang? but you are now ecstatic over this new mustang that is far from spanking the new camaro no matter which way you cut it.

Was I? I genuinely don't recall that. And as for the GT not spanking the SS, the only measure left is for the new GT to throw another couple of tenths on the acceleration advantage to make it a very clear win in every respect since handling numbers are extremely one-sided in this comparison.

[mr_desmo]

13.7 at 102mph 3450pounds 305hp http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

[ULTRAZLS1]

LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY.

THE CAMARO HIT 12.9 AND 13.0 IN ITS FIRST TESTS ALSO. WHEN HAVE THEY EVER RE TESTED AND RE TESTED? Most mags didnt even give the camaro much credit...let alone give it several solid runs. What we usually heard is "should have been faster with 426 hp" If anything from the sounds of how biased the article in motor trend was...they ran the crap out of that mustang to beat the camaro by .1 for all we know.

And if it does run a 12.7 in a mag? is that really worth bragging about over .2 tenths?

The camaro has a very solid 6.2 under the hood that can make 500rwhp with nothing but a cam swap and supporting mods.

No matter which way you cut it the camaro will hold its own just fine.

Both are solid cars man. I understand you like the mustang. Most of us like camaros. We can no longer pick on the little GT...it is more than a good match for the new camaro.

Lets agree to disagree and not cause a pissing match.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY.

THE CAMARO HIT 12.9 AND 13.0 IN ITS FIRST TESTS ALSO.

WHAT WAS THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY.

THE CAMARO HIT 12.9 AND 13.0 IN ITS FIRST TESTS ALSO.

The Camaro did not hit a 12.9 on it's first run in any of the mainstream auto rags, and mainstream auto rags typically do not run as well as publications like PHR and Hot Rod.

Thus far mainstream auto rags (and Edmunds) are all we have and as such I'm keeping it as apples to apples as I can.

[bmwdon]

3450lbs helps out alot!

[Angrybird 12]

Unless the tests were done at the same time in the same place with the same drivers it is hard to compare the test results of the Camaro and Mustang even in the same magazine. Until we get a head to head test done together it will be hard to really compare the two.. On paper the Mustang should have the advantage, and probalbly will.. so before passing judgement lets all take a and wait...

[ULTRAZLS1]

PHR hit 12.9 at 112 trap first try with the camaro.

Motor trend hit 12.9 in its first test against the GT500.

One other mag got a 12.9 first try also...but im not going to go look for it. We are splitting hairs here. The cars are neck and neck. The mustang is a solid performer.

[mr_desmo]

12.8 at 110.8 0.94g http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

[SirBrad]

Still don't like what they look like.

I love the look of the Camaro and Challenger so much better.

[scrming]

hmmmm... 13.7 is a quite a bit quicker than I would have guessed... 400 pound difference is about .4 difference in the 1/4 mile... cars have basically the same HP/TQ... I would have thought the Mustang would have been low 14s or high 13s... not 13.7...

Now based on my time slips, I've been kind of wondering if I should have been getting better ETs based on 60' times and trap speeds... really makes me wonder now!

Going to be interesting to say the least!