2010 Pontiac Firebird or GTO?

Eisenhower · 07-16-2007, 10:22 PM

I'm actually partial to the GTO, but I really like the Trans Am / Firebird brand too. If you had to pick one, which car do you think GM should build?

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*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-16-2007, 10:40 PM

GTO, simply because I think after it's disasterous re-design (note: I'm not talking about power), it deserves another chance.

-AND-

the Camaro's already built (almost),so let the Firebird stay Dead. It was a nice Car, but a rip off on the Camaro; in good way

-AND-

Realistically, if GM is Really trying to achieve brand differenciation, then the Firebird cannot come back anytime soon. (or at least, it can't come back as the Camaro's twin brother...)

*TAG UR IT* · 07-17-2007, 03:26 AM

I'd pick the Chevelle if I could. But, I'd go for the GTO over the others.

Dark Knight · 07-17-2007, 09:12 AM

I vote GTO even though i own a Firebird.

I agree with goldeneye...if your gonna bring back a Firebird make it completely different than the Camaro,which the GTO is and will be.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-17-2007, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Knight

I vote GTO even though i own a Firebird.

I agree with goldeneye...if your gonna bring back a Firebird make it completely different than the Camaro,which the GTO is and will be.

Play James Bond Much?

I'm a man of many names, apparently.

JWz28 · 07-17-2007, 12:03 PM

GTO

I always thought the lines of the Camaro vs the Firebird were cleaner and more muscular. IMO the Firebird had too many body moldings and knick-knacks bolted on.

JWz28.

AFSNightrod · 07-17-2007, 12:20 PM

I have to go with GTO simply because it makes more sense in today's car market. You would have a G5, G6, G8, and a GTO. Make it a little more true to the older GTO in looks, but don't go too retro. Just make it more identifiable to the classic GTO enthusiasts. The last one was nice, but when people identify it as an oversized Cavalier, there's a styling problem. On the other side of the coin. Firebird has always been similar to yet different from the Camaro since 1967. Changing it too much would take away from what the Firebird truly is, a GM pony car with a just a little bit more muscle and luxury. Unfortunately in today's car market I think the Firebird would be a big failure unless they offered it as a higher end(meaning higher cost) muscle car over the Camaro, with all the luxury features, and a much more powerful motor. Then this would be stepping on Caddilac teritory. Firebird just isn't feasable anymore. A GTO would work out nicely if done right. Being a Trans Am owner, this saddens me a bit, but being a Pontiac enthusiast, I will be happy either way.

alleykt123 · 07-17-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AFSNightrod

…Make it a little more true to the older GTO in looks, but don't go too retro. Just make it more identifiable to the classic GTO enthusiasts. The last one was nice, but when people identify it as an oversized Cavalier, there's a styling problem.…

I wholeheartedly agree with this - if the GTO is brought back, the design really should pay greater homage to the classic Goat. I've enjoyed my GTO, but it's been the performance and handling that got me into the car - not the styling. If it had been reintroduced in '04 with better heritage cues, I would have nearly been as excited about it as I am with the 5th gen 'Maro. As it was, it took a drive at an Autoshow in Motion to convince me that it had anything to it.

On another note, I have had people compliment me on my Cavalier, Grand Am, and even (ugh!) my mustang… If GM really goes the route of G5, G6, G8, and GTO, there has got to be a better, more recognizable design.

MerF · 07-17-2007, 01:54 PM

Goat, for all the reasons listed above.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-17-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MerF

Goat, for all the reasons listed above.

+1

3whiterag · 07-18-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

GTO, simply because I think after it's disasterous re-design (note: I'm not talking about power), it deserves another chance.

-AND-

the Camaro's already built (almost),so let the Firebird stay Dead. It was a nice Car, but a rip off on the Camaro; in good way

-AND-

Realistically, if GM is Really trying to achieve brand differenciation, then the Firebird cannot come back anytime soon. (or at least, it can't come back as the Camaro's twin brother...)

Right on!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 07-18-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 3whiterag

Right on!

Thanks!!

infam0uz · 07-19-2007, 10:31 AM

I think the firebird/trans am will come back alive.. and become a production vehicle once the camaro comes out, we all will have to wait and see.

MerF · 07-19-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by infam0uz

I think the firebird/trans am will come back alive.. and become a production vehicle once the camaro comes out, we all will have to wait and see.

There have been many many reasons stated by lots of enthusiasts, and officials alike, that say that there is just no way the Firebird is coming back. It simply makes no sense.

View Poll Results: Which car should GM build?
GTO	17	47.22%
Trans AM / Firebird	14	38.89%
Tough call, I'm Undecided	5	13.89%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

07-16-2007, 10:22 PM	#1
Eisenhower I drank what? Drives: DANGEROUSLY Join Date: May 2007 Location: check your back seat... Posts: 416	2010 Pontiac Firebird or GTO? I'm actually partial to the GTO, but I really like the Trans Am / Firebird brand too. If you had to pick one, which car do you think GM should build? link

07-16-2007, 10:40 PM	#2
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	GTO, simply because I think after it's disasterous re-design (note: I'm not talking about power), it deserves another chance. -AND- the Camaro's already built (almost),so let the Firebird stay Dead. It was a nice Car, but a rip off on the Camaro; in good way -AND- Realistically, if GM is Really trying to achieve brand differenciation, then the Firebird cannot come back anytime soon. (or at least, it can't come back as the Camaro's twin brother...) __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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MerF Go Rays! Drives: 03 Trailblazer Join Date: May 2007 Location: St Pete, Florida Posts: 2,532	Goat, for all the reasons listed above.

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