Toyota Customers Experience Unintended Acceleration Again

[Coldpants]

is sparta?

[Coldpants]

I bet this one does 92mph

[Zeus]

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/10/r...go-nationwide/

Last November, the Toyota Tundra recall to address premature rusting frames was expanded to include trucks from the 2000-2003 model years. That recall, though, only applied to 20 states and Washington, D.C. – those areas where cold weather and road treatments could cause expedited corrosion.

Today, however, The Associated Press reports that the recall has been further expanded to include Tundras from those model years in all 50 states. Toyota apparently hasn't said how many trucks that means it is recalling, but if you have one of those Tundras, you might wish to give your dealer a call.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

Personally, if my car started doing that and I couldn't turn it off, put it in neutral, AND the brakes weren't working, I'd be looking for the nearest guardrail and just GRIND that sucker to a stop. At that point I really wouldn't care about the damage to the paint, as I'd be making more than enough money on the pending lawsuit to buy a new car

[Coldpants]

CNN is now advising people to shift into neutral. Curiouser and curiouser.

[Chronomaro]

Originally Posted by Coldpants

Latest news on Prius that went out of control in cali. The guy DID NOT try to put the car in neutral and DID NOT attempt to turn the car off even after being advised to do so by 911.

If this is similar to the well documented ES350 case, shifting to neutral wouldn't have worked anyway. And the guy was probably intimidated by the idea of turning it off b/c of the loss of power assisted steering or anything else that may turn off.

I'm beginning to believe there are people out there looking for money b/c all the sudden theres a Prius in NY that ran into a stone wall. They confirmed it did have the floormat zip ties. Timing is just a little too convenient for two Prius on the news at once.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

They're liars. They'd say anything to make money. Doesn't this whole mess demonstrate that for us? They lied about prioritizing safety when in fact they prioritized saving money instead. The only truth is their slogan because you're moving forward whether you like it or not.

GM has always offered incentives, including ones called Conquest, meaning that GM wants a piece of someone else's pie. Incentives, known as sales in other industries, are about as normal as seeing clouds in the sky.

Everyone, please remove your tin foil hats. There's no conspiracy. It's a catastrophic failure on the part of Toyota, and we have every right and obligation for our own safety and that of our families to hold Toyota accountable so that these incidents do not continue. I don't want to have a runaway Toyota kill one of my loved ones, and I don't want anyone else to suffer that fate already suffered by too many involved in accidents with runaway Toyotas.

Indeed, Toyota can cry foul all they want, i think it was Ford that last year was offering incentives to Chrysler and possibly GM owners for switching to a Ford, seems like during or after their bankruptcies. It's a dog eat dog world out there and right now Toyota is the Chihuahua that's in trouble because it pooped on the Carpet and tried to hide it under the rug.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Chronomaro

If this is similar to the well documented ES350 case, shifting to neutral wouldn't have worked anyway. And the guy was probably intimidated by the idea of turning it off b/c of the loss of power assisted steering or anything else that may turn off.

I'm beginning to believe there are people out there looking for money b/c all the sudden theres a Prius in NY that ran into a stone wall. They confirmed it did have the floormat zip ties. Timing is just a little too convenient for two Prius on the news at once.

Yes and no. As with the other reported cases, some which were previously being dismissed as simply driver error of some sort are now being looked at as being due to unintended acceleration. There are tens of thousands of accidents each year in the US but they rarely get national (or international) coverage. This one did because it was supposedly fixed to prevent just such an accident. The zip tied floor were supposed to fix the acceleration problem (not that I believed floormats were the problem in the first place).

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Zeus

Now WOULD be a great time to buy a Toyota....


Imagine how that negotiation would go.


"I'll give you ten dollars."

"Are you crazy??"

"I must be if I'm buying a Toyota!"

Have you seen all their new commercials showing people that have bought new Toyotas since the end of january? It's sickening, I wonder how much those people were paid to show their faces in those commercials..

[Chronomaro]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The zip tied floor were supposed to fix the acceleration problem (not that I believed floormats were the problem in the first place).

Toyota still believes its nothing to do with the ECM, but from two personal accounts of UA that I've seen online, its the only explanation I see. How else does the gas pedal get sucked down to the floor? Its funny Toyota dismissed the guy that was able to trigger it, but they forget that his argument wasn't that he made a short, but that the ECM doesn't record a fault.

But two Prius(need to find the plural for that, haha) on the news at the same time, I'm beginning to wonder if news broadcasters all over are going to start finding wrecks involving them. We get the point already! Just let Toyota get to work on a fix rather than defending themselves...as long as the fix doesn't involve shims or zip ties.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Have you seen all their new commercials showing people that have bought new Toyotas since the end of january? It's sickening, I wonder how much those people were paid to show their faces in those commercials..

"Want a Camry for a $.01? Here's all you have to do........"

"Why do we a pay a penny?"

"Hey, when we say you bought it, we have to "honest" about it"

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by Chronomaro

Toyota still believes its nothing to do with the ECM, but from two personal accounts of UA that I've seen online, its the only explanation I see. How else does the gas pedal get sucked down to the floor? Its funny Toyota dismissed the guy that was able to trigger it, but they forget that his argument wasn't that he made a short, but that the ECM doesn't record a fault.

But two Prius(need to find the plural for that, haha) on the news at the same time, I'm beginning to wonder if news broadcasters all over are going to start finding wrecks involving them. We get the point already! Just let Toyota get to work on a fix rather than defending themselves...as long as the fix doesn't involve shims or zip ties.

Priusi?

[radz28]

I'm having a hard time buying into ALL of the hype. I own an older Toyota, and DO respect them for everything they've been known for in the past. But, I've thought, from the initial reports even, that this wasn't a silly floor may or washer fix; a problem with whatever system controls the throttle. I do also believe that there are probably a fair amount of claims that are untrue. I do find it very curious that there are reports they have been trying to keep all of this quiet. Would I buy a Toyota right now (assuming I wasn't waiting for my Camaro)? Yes, I would. While I there are Gm models I would jump into first, I'm saying this recall does nothing to frighten me away from them, yet. There's just too much that is fishy, on both sides of the fence for me. I DO hope the problem is discovered and corrected, if it hasn't been already, and all of those families and loved ones that have been affected by the tragedies are taken care of.

Things keep getting more and more interesting...

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Chronomaro

Toyota still believes its nothing to do with the ECM, but from two personal accounts of UA that I've seen online, its the only explanation I see. How else does the gas pedal get sucked down to the floor? Its funny Toyota dismissed the guy that was able to trigger it, but they forget that his argument wasn't that he made a short, but that the ECM doesn't record a fault.

But two Prius(need to find the plural for that, haha) on the news at the same time, I'm beginning to wonder if news broadcasters all over are going to start finding wrecks involving them. We get the point already! Just let Toyota get to work on a fix rather than defending themselves...as long as the fix doesn't involve shims or zip ties.

Of course they are. But the accidents would still be happening regardless of whether it gets media attention or not.