NASCAR Puts Carl Edwards on Probation; No Suspension, No Fine

ljustin293 · 03-09-2010, 12:57 PM

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Calling the incident "unacceptable" NASCAR President Mike Helton announced Tuesday that the sanctioning body would not fine Edwards or penalize him any championship points, but instead place him on a three-race probation for Sunday's frightening collision with Brad Keselowski and suggested Edwards and Keselowski need to sit down and "clear the slate."

Your thoughts???

rtcat600man · 03-09-2010, 01:10 PM

That's IT. A PROBATION. I watched that race. It could have gotten really ugly if Keselowski's car got into the fencing or worse. What a joke. PROBABTION. He should have gotten far worse. He was clearly GUILTY.

tjd24 · 03-09-2010, 01:15 PM

He should've been parked for at least 1 race given that he:

a) he wasn't really sure Keselowski wrecked him in that race in the first place
b) missed Keselowski on the first (?) attempt to spin him on the previous lap
c) did punt him only to have Keselowski's car go airborne "Unintentionally" at 190 mph, considering average take-off speed of a jet is 160-180mph - talk about "aero-push"
d) entering pit road the wrong way essentially thumbing his nose at NASACR
e) explained his "a,b,c or d" logic favoring "d" which was to take Keselowski out at Atlanta

I've tried to like Carl but there have been far too many incidents that makes him more dangerous than some of the other usual suspects in NASCAR.

Finally - when NASCAR said "...have at it boys..." they're hands were tied to this probation. So the precendant now is intentionally spin/flip a car and get probation...just what the sport needed.

My response:

ddunerider · 03-09-2010, 01:16 PM

Yep !! Lets go raceing Boys!!!!
Love it cant wait for next week!!

Camaro21 · 03-09-2010, 01:17 PM

I think that is total BS. They should fine him and suspend him for at least 4 races. He could have seriously hurt Brad Keselowski when he turned him. I know he did not mean to flip him, but he did turn him intentionally. Revenge is not for the race track..

Steve Dallas · 03-09-2010, 01:18 PM

He should be on Double Secret Probation!

2010 SSRS · 03-09-2010, 01:25 PM

It looks like Mike Helton is a Carl Edwards fan, he should have been suspended, fined and had points taken away, good move Nascar, glad I'm a drag racing fan.

masterofpuppets · 03-09-2010, 01:28 PM

That's bull. They needed to make an example of him that you CANT do that with these cars, they turn over too easy. Bristol or Martinsville is one thing, tracks where you're hitting around 200 mph is a totally different beast. NASCAR didn't suspend him only because of the attention this whole thing is bringing. How many people are going to tune in this week JUST because of that? "BK vs. Edwards part 2".

Mister HP · 03-09-2010, 01:29 PM

Edwards, Kyle bush, and several others need to understand that they are driving around in 100,000.00 weapons that somebody else pays for. All the while they get paid millions of dollars to be "role models" and this is how they respond.

I would love to see any one of them spend a week following a regular guy around, and actually earning a living

ljustin293 · 03-09-2010, 01:30 PM

If they were both fighting for the same position, would your thoughts be any different??

Brokinarrow · 03-09-2010, 01:31 PM

Looking at it from a network point of view: NASCAR without wrecks would be a lot more boring, this guy tends to cause wrecks, and probably boosts the ratings. Therefore there is probably some pressure to keep him racing to see what he'll pull out next.

Now that being said, personally I feel this guy should just be told to sit and watch from his living room the rest of the season, and he can come back and try again next season. Any further incidents like this should result in a 'thanks, but no thanks' from NASCAR (no more racing for him).

Atti2de · 03-09-2010, 01:33 PM

Damn, missed it!!! Did he turn left, tired of always going right?

"prima"Donna · 03-09-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tjd24

He should've been parked for at least 1 race given that he:

a) he wasn't really sure Keselowski wrecked him in that race in the first place
b) missed Keselowski on the first (?) attempt to spin him on the previous lap
c) did punt him only to have Keselowski's car go airborne "Unintentionally" at 190 mph, considering average take-off speed of a jet is 160-180mph - talk about "areo-push"
d) entering pit road the wrong way essentially thumbing his nose at NASCAR
e) explained his "a,b,c or d" logic favoring "d" which was to take Keselowski out at Atlanta

I've tried to like Carl but there have been far too many incidents that makes him more dangerous than some of the other usual suspects in NASCAR.

Finally - when NASCAR said "...have at it boys..." they're hands were tied to this probation. So the precendant now is intentionally spin/flip a car and get probation...just what the sport needed.

f) HE INTENTIONALLY 'TAPPED' BRAD GOING 190MPH WHEN CARL WAS 156 LAPS DOWN...he was not 'moving Brad' out of the way to go for a win like others have done.....or like Brad did to Carl last yr at Talladega when Brad was 'holding his line', trying not to go below the yellow line...

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Originally Posted by Camaro21

I think that is total BS. They should fine him and suspend him for at least 4 races. He could have seriously hurt Brad Keselowski when he turned him. I know he did not mean to flip him, but he did turn him intentionally. Revenge is not for the race track..

100% AGREED!!!...HE COULD ALSO HAVE KILLED BRAD OR SENT BRAD'S CAR INTO THE STANDS AND KILLED A FAN...

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Originally Posted by 2010 SSRS

he should have been suspended, fined and had points taken away

+1

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Originally Posted by masterofpuppets

That's bull. They needed to make an example of him that you CANT do that with these cars, they turn over too easy. Bristol or Martinsville is one thing, tracks where you're hitting around 200 mph is a totally different beast. NASCAR didn't suspend him only because of the attention this whole thing is bringing. How many people are going to tune in this week JUST because of that? "BK vs. Edwards part 2".

+1

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Originally Posted by Mister HP

Edwards, Kyle bush, and several others need to understand that they are driving around in 100,000.00 weapons that somebody else pays for. All the while they get paid millions of dollars to be "role models" and this is how they respond.

I would love to see any one of them spend a week following a regular guy around, and actually earning a living

+1

I know Brad has pissed off quite a few Nationwide and Cup guys by wrecking them, but IMHO, he is young, and a bit inexperienced, and unlike Carl, Brad 'wrecked' people going for a win or advancing his position, similar to what others have done and are still doing...
Dale Sr was the ultimate 'INTIMIDATOR' because he would wreck someone or 'move them' to win, and didn't care about the consequences to himself or the other driver...
I was a huge Dale Sr fan, but I also think the reason that Dale Jr hasn't won as many races as his Dad or others did is because he races clean, for the most part and therefore it affects where he finishes...
I don't believe Brad has ever INTENTIONALLY wrecked someone...i could be wrong...

Carl is just getting nastier and nastier each year...he's not 'OPIE', the good kid anymore...
It's hard to believe he is related to Kenny Schrader(Ken and Carl's dad are cousins)...I'm sure Kenny would like to 'smack Carl upside the head' for his outrageous stunt last Sunday.....

"prima"Donna · 03-09-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ljustin293

If they were both fighting for the same position, would your thoughts be any different??

I think it would be a 'teeny, tiny' bit less malicious intent if they were racing each other, but definitely not with Carl 156 laps down...

Carl didn't try to 'move Brad', he turned his wheel towards Brad to WRECK Brad, that's the difference...Carl wouldn't have cared if his car got wrecked, since he was already 156 laps down...

03-09-2010, 01:15 PM	#3
tjd24 Thank you Oshawa/St.Cats! Drives: was 2010 2LT RS 2G1FC1EV4A9103434 Join Date: May 2009 Location: NW NJ Posts: 3,481 View My Garage	He should've been parked for at least 1 race given that he: a) he wasn't really sure Keselowski wrecked him in that race in the first place b) missed Keselowski on the first (?) attempt to spin him on the previous lap c) did punt him only to have Keselowski's car go airborne "Unintentionally" at 190 mph, considering average take-off speed of a jet is 160-180mph - talk about "aero-push" d) entering pit road the wrong way essentially thumbing his nose at NASACR e) explained his "a,b,c or d" logic favoring "d" which was to take Keselowski out at Atlanta I've tried to like Carl but there have been far too many incidents that makes him more dangerous than some of the other usual suspects in NASCAR. Finally - when NASCAR said "...have at it boys..." they're hands were tied to this probation. So the precendant now is intentionally spin/flip a car and get probation...just what the sport needed. My response: Attached Images __________________ #3434 Born 4-15-2009, Delivered 5-22-2009 BBOMG 2/3/4 - Traded-in 8/31/2019: Last edited by tjd24; 03-09-2010 at 01:33 PM.

03-09-2010, 01:16 PM	#4
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03-09-2010, 01:18 PM	#6
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03-09-2010, 01:28 PM	#8
masterofpuppets Pulling your strings Drives: My girlfriend crazy with car talk Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,246	That's bull. They needed to make an example of him that you CANT do that with these cars, they turn over too easy. Bristol or Martinsville is one thing, tracks where you're hitting around 200 mph is a totally different beast. NASCAR didn't suspend him only because of the attention this whole thing is bringing. How many people are going to tune in this week JUST because of that? "BK vs. Edwards part 2". __________________

03-09-2010, 01:31 PM	#11
Brokinarrow Drives: 2012 Honda NC700x Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indianola, IA Posts: 5,317 View My Garage	Looking at it from a network point of view: NASCAR without wrecks would be a lot more boring, this guy tends to cause wrecks, and probably boosts the ratings. Therefore there is probably some pressure to keep him racing to see what he'll pull out next. Now that being said, personally I feel this guy should just be told to sit and watch from his living room the rest of the season, and he can come back and try again next season. Any further incidents like this should result in a 'thanks, but no thanks' from NASCAR (no more racing for him). __________________

03-09-2010, 01:10 PM	#2
rtcat600man having FUN now 13.66@101 Drives: 2010 2LT IOM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clarkston, Michigan Posts: 9,231 View My Garage	That's IT. A PROBATION. I watched that race. It could have gotten really ugly if Keselowski's car got into the fencing or worse. What a joke. PROBABTION. He should have gotten far worse. He was clearly GUILTY.

03-09-2010, 01:17 PM	#5
Camaro21 Drives: SOLD - 2013 M6 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 5,040 View My Garage	I think that is total BS. They should fine him and suspend him for at least 4 races. He could have seriously hurt Brad Keselowski when he turned him. I know he did not mean to flip him, but he did turn him intentionally. Revenge is not for the race track..

03-09-2010, 01:25 PM	#7
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,186 View My Garage	It looks like Mike Helton is a Carl Edwards fan, he should have been suspended, fined and had points taken away, good move Nascar, glad I'm a drag racing fan.

03-09-2010, 01:29 PM	#9
Mister HP Drives: Speed Shop owner Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Decatur, IN Posts: 199	Edwards, Kyle bush, and several others need to understand that they are driving around in 100,000.00 weapons that somebody else pays for. All the while they get paid millions of dollars to be "role models" and this is how they respond. I would love to see any one of them spend a week following a regular guy around, and actually earning a living

03-09-2010, 01:30 PM	#10
ljustin293 Drives: 2010 VR CAMARO 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GA Posts: 15,060 View My Garage	If they were both fighting for the same position, would your thoughts be any different??

03-09-2010, 01:33 PM	#12
Atti2de Móderator Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Antonio Posts: 1,664 View My Garage	Damn, missed it!!! Did he turn left, tired of always going right? __________________ I'm not the one with the Atti2de problem it's everyone else that has a problem with my Atti2de!