I've a question for our police officers..

[Rayner]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

As long as the police are using the constant beam type radar and not the instant on type... those they don't pull the trigger on until they see you and then it's too late, you are busted...

Now now. Don't try and give him correct information. He believes in his super detector. He'll find out about 'instant on' radar one day.

[brtaus]

Originally Posted by JProberts

Yeahand you should not abuse the system either. And I guess your gonna be able to see window stickers and the such you mentioned from seeing him drive by you. It's not good to know that cops could/would go to extremes like tailing someone hoping they do something illigal or have a baby shoe hanging from their mirror so they can pull them over to write a meaningless traffic ticket.

So yeah your right you could do these things but it would be wrong and waistful to do so while there are real crimes being committed. The type of activity you just described are some of the practices that give cops a bad reputation and most don't deserve it.

Think about this if your ever in this situation. Don't let your personal feelings of getting the one that got away cloud your judgement. I mean its not like Bin Laden got away! Really!

1. Cops don't tail people just to pull them over. You are paranoid. Most of the time, at least with the cops I know, they are not going to pull someone over just for having something (a baby shoe, like you mentioned) hanging from their mirror, unless its an obvious driving hazard and obstructing the drivers view.
2. Get off the whole "real crimes being committed." Unless the criminal is a blatant idiot, most "real crimes" aren't committed right in front of the officer. They are discovered after the crime and reported to the police. Which leads back to my first point.
3. If you are breaking the law, just expect at some point, to have to deal with the police and the consequences. If you don't want to have to deal with either, don't break the law. Its really quite simple.

[Rayner]

Originally Posted by sykb47l

If your the only person on the road. Sure.

You're in for a rude awakening one day man, seriously. You just haven't been caught....YET.

[RichieRich]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I couldn't help it. I don't believe people drive more safely at lower speeds than they do on the highway. People are more likely to check their blind spots, use their blinkers, and drive the speed limit when it is fast and they feel that they will die if they don't.

If you disagree, is it possible that you don't belong in a fast car like the Camaro?

Dude no disrespect but maybe it's not the cops you should focus on but yourself. I admittedly punch it now and then but it's not all the time. I regularly go about 5 MPH over the limit but no more. havent recieved a ticket in two years, with the camaro 6 months since I got it.

Maybe have a custom licence holder that say's "I worked hard for it, and Daddy didnt but it for me".

[mackvenom1]

I think it's all hypocritical because cops near me drive like the biggest Jack-holes around. They speed, they run lights, they cut people off, the pass over the double yellow lines on one lane roads, make illegal u-turns...

And you can't possibly tell me it's all an emergency. They are cruising down the road, then put their lights quickly on then off, just so they don't have to wait at a red light. Yet, my brother gets a ticket for not coming to a "Full and complete stop for three seconds," before, "rolling through a stop sign."

I live literally in the backyard of a police station. Those guys almost run me off the road every month. Totally irresponsible. They should set the EXAMPLE, not be the EXCEPTION, to the rule, I mean law.

[JProberts]

Originally Posted by RogueSS

You're missing the point apparently. If someone actively tries to evade a police officer, it's very suspicious. Most people become more cautious, slowing down, making sure they signal etc, but few actually take the steps to avoid us.

If someone does evade me, you can bet I'll be more apt to stop them if I find them in the future, simply because that activity is suspicious. If I do stop that person and everything checks out, they're going to leave with a warning most times, not a ticket. It's worth checking, maybe Bin Laden is driving that car...how do you know if you don't stop it?

Duly noted, but I am not missing the point at all, everything you did may be accurate but not all of it would stand up in a court of law. You cannot even prove he was evading you the day you saw this vehicle, your making an assumption, and then following up that assumption days later is simply waistful IMHO. The person did not speed away or drive recklesly, if they had you would have hit your lights and pursued him, right?

Not trying to bust your balls here and I will let this go at this point but I have seen personally the police abuse their powers regularly and don't think it's cool.

[Rayner]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Hey man I respect you and all your bretheren, you are just doing your job, and these A holes that break the law want to blame Every officer every time they are stopped for an unjustified stop.. There is always a reason that the officer has stopped someone, never because they didn't like the way the person looks, or the kind of car he is driving, unless there is some sort of safety violation with the car.

These people need to own up and just obey the law... I am sick of reading these threads where it is always the cops fault for stopping them.(most of the time they will admit somewhere in the thread they were speeding or some such foolishness). usually they are repeat offenders and still want to complain.. What an Idiot they are.. and they continue to be idiots by not learning from their mistakes.

PS I have been driving for over 40 years and I have never been stopped for any reason other than when I deserved it... Good job Officers, and get the Idiots off the street!

I think you're missing the point of posts like this. You assume someone who creates a thread like this is some nefarious habitual law breaker who's just looking to get out of trouble.

It's just as likely that someone did, in fact, get nailed when they shouldn't have. We've all seen or heard stories about false stops and such. It happens. Cops are human too and they make mistakes and sometimes even let their emotions get the better of them.

Remember, every bad cop out there makes EVERY cop look bad because those are the experiences people point to most often.

I've had many dealings with good cops. But I've also had a run-in with a couple of bad ones.

The simple fact is that fighting a charge in court is everyone's right as an American. You can't change that by saying they shouldn't fight or that they should just slow down.

You show me a person who *always* does the posted limit, and I will show you someone who routinely sees TONS of cars zooming past him, some while sending nice colorful 'gestures' his way.

[Rayner]

Originally Posted by mackvenom1

I think it's all hypocritical because cops near me drive like the biggest Jack-holes around. They speed, they run lights, they cut people off, the pass over the double yellow lines on one lane roads, make illegal u-turns...

And you can't possibly tell me it's all an emergency. They are cruising down the road, then put their lights quickly on then off, just so they don't have to wait at a red light. Yet, my brother gets a ticket for not coming to a "Full and complete stop for three seconds," before, "rolling through a stop sign."

I live literally in the backyard of a police station. Those guys almost run me off the road every month. Totally irresponsible. They should set the EXAMPLE, not be the EXCEPTION, to the rule, I mean law.

[JProberts]

Originally Posted by brtaus

1. Cops don't tail people just to pull them over. You are paranoid. Most of the time, at least with the cops I know, they are not going to pull someone over just for having something (a baby shoe, like you mentioned) hanging from their mirror, unless its an obvious driving hazard and obstructing the drivers view.
2. Get off the whole "real crimes being committed." Unless the criminal is a blatant idiot, most "real crimes" aren't committed right in front of the officer. They are discovered after the crime and reported to the police. Which leads back to my first point.
3. If you are breaking the law, just expect at some point, to have to deal with the police and the consequences. If you don't want to have to deal with either, don't break the law. Its really quite simple.

That wasn't my quote that was the cops words! And yeah while a cop may spend 15min. "looking for a reason" 10 blocks away someone is getting robbed. Maybe if they were still patroling instead of waisting time the robbery doesn't happen?Maybe, maybe not but what would you rather have the cops doing?

[RogueSS]

Originally Posted by JProberts

Duly noted, but I am not missing the point at all, everything you did may be accurate but not all of it would stand up in a court of law. You cannot even prove he was evading you the day you saw this vehicle, your making an assumption, and then following up that assumption days later is simply waistful IMHO. The person did not speed away or drive recklesly, if they had you would have hit your lights and pursued him, right?

Not trying to bust your balls here and I will let this go at this point but I have seen personally the police abuse their powers regularly and don't think it's cool.

Nope, I couldn't pursue him, against our policy.

It's hard to understand if you don't do the job day in and day out, I understand that. But believe me, the behavior itself is suspicious and it's my job to check that stuff out.

As for wasteful, not sure how stopping a car is wasteful if I'm not on another call. I've let many a person go from a traffic stop because something more important comes in like a shooting. If I'm in the middle of a stop and that comes over the radio, you'll get your ID back and a "It's your lucky day, I have to go, drive safe".

Wasteful, from where I sit, would be sitting in a parking lot all night and not stopping cars....then I'd be wasting your, and my money...it's both of our tax dollars at work.

[JProberts]

Originally Posted by mackvenom1

I think it's all hypocritical because cops near me drive like the biggest Jack-holes around. They speed, they run lights, they cut people off, the pass over the double yellow lines on one lane roads, make illegal u-turns...

And you can't possibly tell me it's all an emergency. They are cruising down the road, then put their lights quickly on then off, just so they don't have to wait at a red light. Yet, my brother gets a ticket for not coming to a "Full and complete stop for three seconds," before, "rolling through a stop sign."

I live literally in the backyard of a police station. Those guys almost run me off the road every month. Totally irresponsible. They should set the EXAMPLE, not be the EXCEPTION, to the rule, I mean law.

AMEN BROTHER! AMEN!

[brtaus]

Originally Posted by JProberts

Duly noted, but I am not missing the point at all, everything you did may be accurate but not all of it would stand up in a court of law. You cannot even prove he was evading you the day you saw this vehicle, your making an assumption, and then following up that assumption days later is simply waistful IMHO. The person did not speed away or drive recklesly, if they had you would have hit your lights and pursued him, right?

Not trying to bust your balls here and I will let this go at this point but I have seen personally the police abuse their powers regularly and don't think it's cool.

Why not? What part would not stand up?

[Rayner]

Originally Posted by brtaus

1. Cops don't tail people just to pull them over. You are paranoid. Most of the time, at least with the cops I know, they are not going to pull someone over just for having something (a baby shoe, like you mentioned) hanging from their mirror, unless its an obvious driving hazard and obstructing the drivers view.

Who lied to you? I've met MANY people who have either had that happen or have seen it happen to someone else.

Originally Posted by brtaus

2. Get off the whole "real crimes being committed." Unless the criminal is a blatant idiot, most "real crimes" aren't committed right in front of the officer. They are discovered after the crime and reported to the police. Which leads back to my first point.

And if there were less speed traps, people who called 911 wouldn't have to hear that the officer is "on his way" for upwards of 10+ minutes. Or they wouldn't have to change the laws like they did in Dallas saying they wouldn't show up to the scene of an accident without significant bodily injury.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Rayner

You show me a person who *always* does the posted limit, and I will show you someone who routinely sees TONS of cars zooming past him, some while sending nice colorful 'gestures' his way.

So in your mind that makes it ok to speed? because other people pass you and give you the finger for obeying the law... Silly and stupid excuse in my opinion... Believe me I am not always right at the speed limit, but I never blatantly speed, I may be 5 or so miles over, but not the 15 or 20 +MPH over have seen many on here brag about doing and start a thread saying WHY DID I GET A TICKET???

By the way, I just found out today My insurance is going up on my camaro because of irresponsible drivers that are getting tickets and having accidents in their Camaros for doing stupid things.. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.