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Old 02-17-2010, 10:33 PM   #183
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Why do Mustang owners have so much hate towards Camaro owners?

It's been that way since 1967.

It's the same as Michigan "hating" Ohio State, or The Red Socks "hating" the Yankees, etc. It's just the way it is .........
+1 good call.
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:45 AM   #184
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Was that 302 offered as a factory option? From the literature I read I only found a 220hp 302.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:20 AM   #185
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Was that 302 offered as a factory option? From the literature I read I only found a 220hp 302.
Not in '68, but it was in '69 and '70. Obviously, it had to be offered in order to qualify the engine for use in TransAm racing.
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:23 PM   #186
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Was it also drastically underrated like GM's 302?
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:35 PM   #187
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Relating to the topic, we did contribute to 900 ford workers getting layed off
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:55 PM   #188
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Relating to the topic, we did contribute to 900 ford workers getting layed off
Quite obvious you did not read the ARTICLE and just read into C5's koolaid.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:23 PM   #189
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Was it also drastically underrated like GM's 302?
Yes, like most engines in the '60's from all manufacturers.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:48 PM   #190
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I always see where people say the ford never stopped producing the mustang. I disagree. Who remembers the mustang II? I think when that came out it was Ford hiatus.

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Old 02-18-2010, 09:53 PM   #191
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I always see where people say the ford never stopped producing the mustang. I disagree. Who remembers the mustang II? I think when that came out it was Ford hiatus.

Just saying!
Every car company has had their less than brilliant moments...

How about the Chevy Cimarron... I mean Cadillac Cimarron...

http://www.time.com/time/specials/20...658526,00.html

just saying...
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:07 PM   #192
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Mustang guys hate me cus I follow them around and close their threads.....
Hey now that NEVER happened to me.......oh wait, yes it did.

I think there are pockets of haters on each side and it's easy to hide on the internet. It's kinda like talking smack on Xbox, you are more aggresive because you think it sounds cool. I too like all kinds of cars myself. I'm even on the Ferrari boards.
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While some motors were under rated back then it was usually only the very radical ones. Actually the opposite is usually true because of the rating system that was used.

They used a gross hp rating system that is much less accurate by todays standards. Im not sure on the specifics (would have to look back into it) but I think it is a significant difference. A car that was rated at 350hp then would only be about 300 (or even less) now.

There were TONS and TONS of 300+ horsepower cars in the 60's and early 70's that could not even break out of the 14's, hell a lot of them were in the 15's.. And the trap speeds were just as pitiful. ( I know the tires werent as good so I also look at traps)

What would the z-28 302 run? I thought I have read an article in the past when they ran it against an iroc-z in the 80's and it ran like a 15.2. I have also seen other quoted times for the car only as low as 14.9 with a 97 trap speed. Hardly under rated at 290hp if you ask me. The curb weight was not far from the 220hp iroc that ran mid 14's.

Check into it guys...I was surprised when I heard it a couple years ago on LS1tech. But it is true from the research I have done so far. Not many people realize this. Good conversation piece.

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Every car company has had their less than brilliant moments...

How about the Chevy Cimarron... I mean Cadillac Cimarron...

http://www.time.com/time/specials/20...658526,00.html

just saying...

I am back. You know I had to reminisce on the link you posted. Brings back memories.
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Every car company has had their less than brilliant moments...

How about the Chevy Cimarron... I mean Cadillac Cimarron...

http://www.time.com/time/specials/20...658526,00.html

just saying...
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:16 PM   #196
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2011 mustang!!!.....camaro has no chance .....i hope yall had yals one year of fun..cause its now quickly coming to a end. looks like the crapmaro is going to be in second place for the rest of its years
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