The end of American Chopper Feb, 11 - Page 2

Scrappy Doo · 02-10-2010, 11:22 AM

It was cool the first couple years it was on. It's been lame for at least 3 years...

slicker · 02-10-2010, 11:49 AM

sr really showed his true colors. its too bad

2ndgenz28 · 02-10-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by infernoinandout

How sad is it that you have to design grills and dog parks for a living not bikes that is your speciality. Paul Sr. and his no compete claus in the contracts. Thats why Vinny and Cody are not on TV yet.
But he does have a hot girl friend at least till the money runs out.
Maybe he can do designer garbage cans next.

Well he doesn't have to really, he still owns %20 of OCC or something, he can sit back like SR with his feet up and collect checks.

2ndgenz28 · 02-10-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by coolman

I heard they weren't in very good shape. Lots of layoffs and very slow on bike sales. With the show gone I wonder how long the money will hold out.

Well the 2nd to last show they said they avoided bankruptcy, and funny during that show SR went on and on how JR could of been there helping build bikes to save peoples job but "JR didn't care."

When all the other shows SR goes on and on how they don't need JR and are fine without him. But its his fault Sr had to lay off folks.

Sr can't keep his story sraight, they either don't need Jr or its all Jr fault they are in trouble.

chef-beavis · 02-10-2010, 01:48 PM

Jr. built that dynasty with his creativity backed by his father's $. If they could have just gotten along they would have it made. The show has been boring since he left OCC. No Vinnie, Mikey, or Jr. equals no ratings. Complaining Mikey don't show up at 7 a.m. to push a broom? Dumb. He lived on a plane or bus for 4-5 years and made all of the kids and old ladies laugh and like you. Without Jr. they would all be old-school choppers. Theme bikes built the machine, Period.

I'm guessing now Sr. will have to learn what the custom bike market is really about for the guys that don't have a TV show to sell exposure to big companies. It was about marketing and PR for those companies. No exposure means they will not pay $150k for choppers. They will have to build them for $40 like every other high profile bike builder; if they can find that customer anymore. It will be interesting to see if they can afford to support all of that square footage. How long will the line of cars show up to support the T-Shirt and nick-nack shop once the TV show is gone?

I wish them luck. Sad to see. I hope they took care of their personal finances. NOBODY involved in that show should ever HAVE to work again if they did it right.

Sorry to see them go. Hope they patch up the family and start making cool bikes again someday.

2ndgenz28 · 02-10-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coolman

I missed that. I believe they need Jr to keep moving ahead. What's and orange county chopper without Jr's input. To me just another custom chopper that you can buy just about anywhere.

Yep, but Sr can't admit that it Jr's designs that made them famous.

Everytime they went head to head, the crowd voted for Jr's stuff.

And I bet that half the problem, big companies call up and want a bike, then change their mind when Jr is not involved.

1bad65 · 02-10-2010, 02:17 PM

Jr got a big head once the show took off.

Archangel · 02-10-2010, 02:23 PM

it was over when it became "reality tv." more than half the crap that goes on is staged, and there were too many egos in one shop, put a camera in the mix and "vwaula..." instant crap on tv. the builds were cool but over the top and way over priced.

Den4176 · 02-10-2010, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Jr got a big head once the show took off.

agreed!!

wylde1 · 02-10-2010, 03:17 PM

I thought the first few episodes were cool, like the jet bike and black widow and stuff. after that they really just basically stuck a generic motor in a generic frame and paid the painter guy to make it look amazing and were like "here's our awesome new design!"

I would have liked to see them do interesting motor combos, build one for power, or do something innovative instead of just welding shit on to a frame to make it look slightly different than the last one.

There are 1000's of other bike builders out there I'd give my money to before OCC. billy lanes hubless wheel anyone? that is friggin cool

This kind of stuff gets my wheels turnin' haha

imagine making the inner hub section out of an electric motor. Rigidly attached inner stator and the outer hub is the magnetic rotor..... no chains, or belt drives ALL KINDS of torque. Of course it'd be electric and I generally don't like that stuff (mostly because I love the sound of an engine) but I think it'd be really cool on a custom bike

2ndgenz28 · 02-10-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wylde1

There are 1000's of other bike builders out there I'd give my money to before OCC. billy lanes hubless wheel anyone? that is friggin cool

Yea Billy Lane, who was way over the legal limit, went left of center in a no passing zone and killed a guy. Who then used his money to stall for 3+ years while he cleaned up to try and claim it was no big deal. As the guy on the moped had been drinking too but he was on the right side of the road and wasn't speeding in a no passing zone.

every biker build off he was on, even durign the rides, at every stop he had a beer in hand. Hmmmmmm

He is no serving time in jail and lost his license for life as it was not his first offence.

DerbyChamp06 · 02-10-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

Maybe now Vinny n Cody will agree to do a show?
[They got out early and started their own shop Vforce Customs.]

Now that it won't a competition between the two for air time.

Course that’s also when it went down hill, they had the big Vinny quits shows but when Cody quits to follow him they would not allow it on the air. Also why the re-runs of the old shows stopped. SR didn't want them to get any air time, even if it was on OCC. Like they also had no part in the fame.

It was all SR, his designs and work that got them their

Looks like they're about to debut a show called "Throttle Junkies" on Feb 14th-see info on main page of their website link:

http://www.vforcecustoms.com/

I just started catching many OCC reruns over a year ago, on local network tv (rabbit ears)-When Vinnie left, it just wasn't the same.

2ndgenz28 · 02-11-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DerbyChamp06

Looks like they're about to debut a show called "Throttle Junkies" on Feb 14th-see info on main page of their website link:

http://www.vforcecustoms.com/

Thats a shame, a bunch of 3rd rate networks that maybe 1/5 the population can see. Why did they turn down Discovery then? Don't they want national air time?

http://www.vforcecustoms.com/images/...ting-final.jpg

2ndgenz28 · 02-11-2010, 11:15 PM

its on now again, the OCC theme resturant part was dumb, Sr going on how its a shame Mikey n pauly arn't involved as they could be there if they wanted.

Yet every other word out of his mouth is how he don't need them around, its all him.

02-10-2010, 11:49 AM	#16
slicker slicker Drives: Cyber Grey 1 LT / RS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 535 View My Garage	sr really showed his true colors. its too bad __________________ UFC as real as it gets

02-10-2010, 01:48 PM	#19
chef-beavis Drives: IOM 2013 2SS/RS, Greenie, 06 FXSTBi Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Turd Town, WI Posts: 1,602	Thankless Jr. built that dynasty with his creativity backed by his father's $. If they could have just gotten along they would have it made. The show has been boring since he left OCC. No Vinnie, Mikey, or Jr. equals no ratings. Complaining Mikey don't show up at 7 a.m. to push a broom? Dumb. He lived on a plane or bus for 4-5 years and made all of the kids and old ladies laugh and like you. Without Jr. they would all be old-school choppers. Theme bikes built the machine, Period. I'm guessing now Sr. will have to learn what the custom bike market is really about for the guys that don't have a TV show to sell exposure to big companies. It was about marketing and PR for those companies. No exposure means they will not pay $150k for choppers. They will have to build them for $40 like every other high profile bike builder; if they can find that customer anymore. It will be interesting to see if they can afford to support all of that square footage. How long will the line of cars show up to support the T-Shirt and nick-nack shop once the TV show is gone? I wish them luck. Sad to see. I hope they took care of their personal finances. NOBODY involved in that show should ever HAVE to work again if they did it right. Sorry to see them go. Hope they patch up the family and start making cool bikes again someday.

02-10-2010, 02:23 PM	#22
Archangel Drives: 1999 GMC Sierra Z71 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 102	it was over when it became "reality tv." more than half the crap that goes on is staged, and there were too many egos in one shop, put a camera in the mix and "vwaula..." instant crap on tv. the builds were cool but over the top and way over priced. __________________ Everyone is entitled to their own opinion no matter how wrong they are If I agreed with you then we would both be wrong

02-10-2010, 03:17 PM	#24
wylde1 I am the Stig Drives: Black w/ IOM stripe 1SS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CAN Posts: 1,312	I thought the first few episodes were cool, like the jet bike and black widow and stuff. after that they really just basically stuck a generic motor in a generic frame and paid the painter guy to make it look amazing and were like "here's our awesome new design!" I would have liked to see them do interesting motor combos, build one for power, or do something innovative instead of just welding shit on to a frame to make it look slightly different than the last one. There are 1000's of other bike builders out there I'd give my money to before OCC. billy lanes hubless wheel anyone? that is friggin cool This kind of stuff gets my wheels turnin' haha imagine making the inner hub section out of an electric motor. Rigidly attached inner stator and the outer hub is the magnetic rotor..... no chains, or belt drives ALL KINDS of torque. Of course it'd be electric and I generally don't like that stuff (mostly because I love the sound of an engine) but I think it'd be really cool on a custom bike __________________ 2010 Camaro - 1SS, Black w/ Orange stripes

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02-10-2010, 11:22 AM	#15
Scrappy Doo Drives: Callaway Rogue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: W8n 4 Snow, Minnesota Posts: 4,731	It was cool the first couple years it was on. It's been lame for at least 3 years...

02-10-2010, 02:17 PM	#21
1bad65 Banned Drives: 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 1,148	Jr got a big head once the show took off.

02-11-2010, 11:15 PM	#28
2ndgenz28 Thread Killer Drives: All Black Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NWO Toledo Area Posts: 4,720	its on now again, the OCC theme resturant part was dumb, Sr going on how its a shame Mikey n pauly arn't involved as they could be there if they wanted. Yet every other word out of his mouth is how he don't need them around, its all him.