Consolidated Toyota Recall/Safety thread

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

HS250H is now under investigation as well...

And the meltdown continues...

what IS an HS250H?

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

what IS an HS250H?

Hybrid sedan 250 Hybrid.

Lexus's compact hybrid sedan. It looks a lot like a glorified corolla.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

what IS an HS250H?

Hybrid Synergy 250 Hybrid

Its a deticated hybrid from Lexus. Some call it the Lexus Prius but they aren't on the same platform.

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Hybrid Synergy 250 Hybrid

Its a deticated hybrid from Lexus. Some call it the Lexus Prius but they aren't on the same platform.

Ooooh ok. Thanks!






Oh, and at Lexus.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by coolman

Why don't they just cut a hole threw the floor and let the driver use his or her feet. That's about as good of engineering that they've been doing lately.

Prius, After the recall...

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Prius, After the recall...

Crap. Toyota beat us.

Infinity miles per gallon.

[Rallysport]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

The news just keeps getting better and better. Toyota's reputation is going to take a very big hit from all this. The average consumer with blind acceptance that Toyotas are great won't be so sure any more ... and thats good enough for me.

Absolutely. Never in my wildest toyota-hate-filled dreams did I think I would see what is now happening to the criminal corporation known as toyota. As they say in the McDonald's advertisements: "I'm LOVIN' it!"

[2ndgenz28]

I was a bit Irked that the CBC reported that the US is making it into a bigger deal then it is becuase the US Gov owns part of GM n Chrysler, ohhh and its gonna cost Toyota over 2billion to fix everything, not including lawsuites.

But its really no big deal.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by 2ndgenz28

I was a bit Irked that the CBC reported that the US is making it into a bigger deal then it is becuase the US Gov owns part of GM n Chrysler, ohhh and its gonna cost Toyota over 2billion to fix everything, not including lawsuites.

But its really no big deal.

CBC? As in Canadian Broadcasting Corp? The CBC that is funded by the Canadian government, who also has partial ownership of GM? That CBC?

[2ndgenz28]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

CBC? As in Canadian Broadcasting Corp? The CBC that is funded by the Canadian government, who also has partial ownership of GM? That CBC?

Yep, we get Canada CBC on our cable.

Use to be a good channel to watch till the strike a few years back, now its garbage.

[FenwickHockey65]

EPIC.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

EPIC.

Saved...5 times. In different places. Including my desktop.


I think I might print it out and put copies up around our campus, too.....

[Cmicasa the Great XvX]

Where was the LEVEL playing ground?

Foreign makers have had the advantage of cheap labor and untrue reliability perceptions for the last 10-15 years. The issues and problems with Toyota and Honda are not NEW. They are obviously engineering deficiencies that go back into the 90s. The attempt first to blame the issues, in Toyota's case, on simple things like Floor Mats, then shifting it to an American supplier, now.. it would seem that the computer engineering is the culprit.

But do U see??? This fantasy of LEVEL playing-ground is just that... a delusion. The very idea of the POSITIVE perceptions of the Japanese makers precludes the concept of a level playing ground shows the root of all the bullshit U've been kicking all along.

Many will try and deflect it by pushing Ford Fusion and Fseries recalls, along with a Cobalt power steering issue.. but neglect the possibility that as bad as these things are... they are minor, and have been the REALITY for the public for quite some time. The public believes that the Domestics are occasionally fallible. They are no better, or NO WORSE, than the foreign makers who are now recalling vehicles that go back deep into the last 2 decades.

The Foreign vs Domestic debate is DEAD.. and the Domestics have seemingly won. I thank Toyota... for their contribution to my cause. They landed the fatal blow to their own lie. And everyday it seems they are apologizing for it.

Seems to me that with GM and Ford sales rising I might have to ask... WHY CAN'T THE FOREIGN MAKERS COMPETE with THE DOMESTICS anymore???

I kno the answer tho... PERCEPTION of the foreign machine's superiority is quite possibly FINISHED. There's not a Domestics Dealership salesman who can't instantly ask a perspective customer if they have "heard of the issues that Toyota and Honda have been having lately?"

Now these mainstream buyers are sampling GM and Ford vehicles at the very time they are all being rated in the top of their classes. SPREADING THE WORD... that:

" yeah... GM and Ford are making some reeeeallly nice vehicles these days... Have U seen that new Buick... new Chevy... new Ford... new... etc?"

Finally a GOV'T that asked GM, Ford, and Chrysler, just as year ago, "why aren't U making reliable cars that people want like Honda and Toyota???" are now pointing at the Prius, Corolla, Camry, Fit, and several other models... and saying:

"U shouldn't drive that POS JAPCRAP until it gets FIXED."

A fix that is gonna take about 6 months to be finished... possibly longer. All the while the owners of these cars are suddenly wanting to RAM THEIR VEHICLES into the dealerships where they bought them.


SAD... so EFFIN SAD.

[The_Blur]

There are unforeseen costs of cheap labor. Sometimes, it shows up in human suffering in slave-like conditions. Sometimes, it shows in the workmanship of a poorly assembled product. In the case of the Japanese automaker, these costs are clear. Unfortunately, we can't count on these mistakes to sell the world's best cars from GM. It is our obligation as buyers and sellers to make people aware of how great our products are.