Twinned Vehicles: Same Cars, Different Brands - Page 2

SSmoked · 09-30-2008, 10:48 AM

wow this is pretty interesting. but i can say from past to present experience that the ford expedition and linclon navigator only share the same motor. the expendition is not equiped with air ride, nor is it equiped with thx speakers, the tranny is total different my moms v8 navi only runs on 6 cyliners while the v8 expedition runs on all 8. and the mazda ford thing is ture to a certian exctent. the mazda tribute and ford excape are the only 2 twins in the famile. like the mazda3 and ford focus are totaly different, except the 2.0l motor

Hylton · 09-30-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

cadillac cimmeron

Exactly. I don't mind them sharing underpinnings and drivetrains but changing the front/rear facia and throwing a new badge on the vehicle is getting old. I drive a Yukon as a DD and when I see the Yukon, Denali, Escalade, Tahoe and Suburban being branded by different GM marks, I start to see the problems they have.

But like I've said in the past - see ya later GMC.... it was nice while it lasted.

*The_Blur* · 09-30-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hylton

Exactly. I don't mind them sharing underpinnings and drivetrains but changing the front/rear facia and throwing a new badge on the vehicle is getting old. I drive a Yukon as a DD and when I see the Yukon, Denali, Escalade, Tahoe and Suburban being branded by different GM marks, I start to see the problems they have.

But like I've said in the past - see ya later GMC.... it was nice while it lasted.

I would love to see GMC get the ax. It's a huge waste of resources for a company that sells exactly the same products as other GM brands with nothing remarkably different in the lineup. At least Hummer sells something unique, if ostentatious.

Hylton · 09-30-2008, 11:59 AM

I would love to know how many white collar staff are in the GMC division. Every single one of them have a counterpart at Chevrolet doing the exact same job. Total waste of money!

*DGthe3* · 09-30-2008, 02:16 PM

What does GM have that isn't twined? CTS? Anything else?

I'm fine with making twins, but don't make them compete with each other: Saturn/Pontiac/Chevy; Buick/Caddy; Chevy/GMC; Caddy trucks. And the crossovers are a joke. I've heard that they are going to give Caddy one and call it an escalade.

CHVY4LF · 09-30-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

At least Hummer sells something unique, if ostentatious.

Even though it looks unique it is just a tahoe 2500 with different sheet metal. Shares the powertrain, just like the H3 is just a colorado/canyon.

Also everyone, notice no one included Isuzu. It has a trailblazer/envoy model and a colorado/canyon twin

SS4EVER · 09-30-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

I would love to see GMC get the ax. It's a huge waste of resources for a company that sells exactly the same products as other GM brands with nothing remarkably different in the lineup. At least Hummer sells something unique, if ostentatious.

Not that I'd ever want anything by GMC, but don't forget that GMC does have a pretty substantial heavy duty and commercial duty line up. Granted they aren't anything that can't just have a Chevrolet badge slapped on it, but GMC does have a reputation within the building/construction/contracting industry.

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

What does GM have that isn't twined? CTS? Anything else?

Well the CTS, doesn't technically have a twin but the platform that it's on is shared with some other cars in other markets...

MajorTom · 09-30-2008, 07:28 PM

Yeah, working at an auto shop it's easy to tell when two cars are the same with a few different body panels.

For those of you wondering about the Toyota and GM connection... They've been collaberating for years.

Geo was a joint venture between GM and Toyota and also Suzuki. The tracker was a suzuki with GM badges. And if you look closely at the Geo logo you'll see the Chevy bowtie in the center.

And Dodge and Mitsubishi have worked together for a long time now.

The engine in the Caliber SRT-4 is almost the same one in the EVO. And I'd also venture to guess the chassis is similar if not shared.

Wm Holden · 09-30-2008, 07:55 PM

The old chevy geo was a corrolla for 3 grand less.

stratus coupe was a stretched eclipse.

stealth was a 3000gt

stovt001 · 10-01-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by camaro&T/A

I don't have a problem with fraternal twins, it's the identical ones that drive me nuts!

Ironic statement given your screen-name.

camaro1 · 10-01-2008, 09:02 AM

also the new Volkswagen Routan mini-van is actually a chrysler mini-van with VW badges,, i guess vw and chrysler had a deal that chrysler wouldnt sell its new mini van in europe only if vw sold its version of it here in the US,, i work at a vw dealer and we got a whole truck load of chrysler tools and a new chrysler scan tool to work on this new "vw/chrysler van"

storm79 · 10-01-2008, 05:13 PM

another big GM seller is the Pontiac G6/Saturn Aura

*DGthe3* · 10-01-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by storm79

another big GM seller is the Pontiac G6/Saturn Aura/Malibu

The Aura isn't that big of a seller. But the other two certainly are.

storm79 · 10-01-2008, 09:30 PM

yeah the g6 sells like crazy...and i didn't know the malibu and the others were twins?

09-30-2008, 10:48 AM	#15
SSmoked Drives: '12 Camaro ZL1 #1255 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: O' Canada Posts: 1,279	wow this is pretty interesting. but i can say from past to present experience that the ford expedition and linclon navigator only share the same motor. the expendition is not equiped with air ride, nor is it equiped with thx speakers, the tranny is total different my moms v8 navi only runs on 6 cyliners while the v8 expedition runs on all 8. and the mazda ford thing is ture to a certian exctent. the mazda tribute and ford excape are the only 2 twins in the famile. like the mazda3 and ford focus are totaly different, except the 2.0l motor __________________

09-30-2008, 11:59 AM	#18
Hylton Drives: fanboys and ass kissers crazy. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 7,275	I would love to know how many white collar staff are in the GMC division. Every single one of them have a counterpart at Chevrolet doing the exact same job. Total waste of money! __________________ "BBOMG - More than just a car show.... It's an experience!"

09-30-2008, 02:16 PM	#19
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	What does GM have that isn't twined? CTS? Anything else? I'm fine with making twins, but don't make them compete with each other: Saturn/Pontiac/Chevy; Buick/Caddy; Chevy/GMC; Caddy trucks. And the crossovers are a joke. I've heard that they are going to give Caddy one and call it an escalade. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

09-30-2008, 07:55 PM	#23
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10-01-2008, 09:02 AM	#25
camaro1 Drives: 550+RWHP 2010 camaro Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: wisconsin Posts: 1,588	also the new Volkswagen Routan mini-van is actually a chrysler mini-van with VW badges,, i guess vw and chrysler had a deal that chrysler wouldnt sell its new mini van in europe only if vw sold its version of it here in the US,, i work at a vw dealer and we got a whole truck load of chrysler tools and a new chrysler scan tool to work on this new "vw/chrysler van" __________________ 415ci stroker, TVS 2300 Magnacharger, cnc heads, cam, yank ss3200 converter, Kooks long tubes, Bwoody true cold air kit, ZL1 Pump, magnaflow 3" cat-back, lowering springs,BMR control arms and tie rod bars, 3.73 gears, diff mounts, RX can, ADM fuel controller

09-30-2008, 07:28 PM	#22
MajorTom Drives: 2005 Pontiac GTO Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 306	Yeah, working at an auto shop it's easy to tell when two cars are the same with a few different body panels. For those of you wondering about the Toyota and GM connection... They've been collaberating for years. Geo was a joint venture between GM and Toyota and also Suzuki. The tracker was a suzuki with GM badges. And if you look closely at the Geo logo you'll see the Chevy bowtie in the center. And Dodge and Mitsubishi have worked together for a long time now. The engine in the Caliber SRT-4 is almost the same one in the EVO. And I'd also venture to guess the chassis is similar if not shared.

10-01-2008, 05:13 PM	#26
storm79 Drives: 2007 GMC Sierra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Middle of nowhere Posts: 281	another big GM seller is the Pontiac G6/Saturn Aura __________________

10-01-2008, 09:30 PM	#28
storm79 Drives: 2007 GMC Sierra Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Middle of nowhere Posts: 281	yeah the g6 sells like crazy...and i didn't know the malibu and the others were twins? __________________

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