2010 Mustang

[Mr. Wyndham]

Based on 2009MY curb weight it seems possible that a 2011 V6 could even ring in below 3200lb...

Interesting, though...

[radz28]

Doesn't that car still ride on the Lincoln LS platform the current generation rides on, and isn't that right about 3600 lbs.? If so, how does this car loose a few hundred pounds?...

[gladiatoro]

Originally Posted by diarmadhi

All correct.. except for the date.. the latest inside news has the following.

2010 model - body change and slight hp boost to current drivetrain
2011 model - same as 2010
2012 model - same body, but new drive train is introduced (speculated as the 5.0)

I thought 2012 is when the all new Mustang appears NEW body and drive train with the 5.0 , the 5.0 will be released sooner me thinks to compete with the Maro and Chally

[camaro&T/A]

Originally Posted by diarmadhi

All correct.. except for the date.. the latest inside news has the following.

2010 model - body change and slight hp boost to current drivetrain
2011 model - same as 2010
2012 model - same body, but new drive train is introduced (speculated as the 5.0)

plenty of time to come out with a Z28!

[The_Stache]

Originally Posted by gladiatoro

I thought 2012 is when the all new Mustang appears new body and drive train with the 5.0 , the 5.0 will be released sooner me thinks to compete with the Maro and Chally

Can't verify the accuracy.. but thats what the buzz on the mustang forums is.. and just like us knowing more about the camaro.. i would assume they know more about the mustang..

[radz28]

There are some newer shots of the seats on Autoblog, but I just wanted to add IMHO the interior on the 'Stang is just a little too sterile for me. I mean, it looks great, like a tuxedo, but is a little bland. There's nothing exciting about it - nothing unique, well, that's been seen. All the lines are too parallel or too perpendicular for my tastes. Okay, I'll say it: it's boring to me; no personality. I like Camaro's interior much more, especially with the accent package.

[syr74]

Originally Posted by diarmadhi

All correct.. except for the date.. the latest inside news has the following.

2010 model - body change and slight hp boost to current drivetrain
2011 model - same as 2010
2012 model - same body, but new drive train is introduced (speculated as the 5.0)

I've seen that info as well, but it isn't accurate. 5.0L V8 will intro sometime during the 2011MY. In fact, Windsor is tooling up for that motor as we speak (and has been for some time)

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Interesting, though...

The current V6 model starts at 3300lb and change, and that with the boat anchor 4.0L V6 under hood which still uses a cast iron block and which has huge bore spacing making it extremely long. The 3.5L V6 is all aluminum and far smaller overall. Factor in the reality that the platform has reportedly gone on a bit of a diet and weight loss of a couple hundred pounds isn't at all difficult to believe. But, as I said before, this is just a guess.

Originally Posted by radz282003

Doesn't that car still ride on the Lincoln LS platform the current generation rides on, and isn't that right about 3600 lbs.? If so, how does this car loose a few hundred pounds?...

D2C is DEW98-derived, but it's already lighter than the older DEW98 platform it sprang from and has been since it's debut. As stated above a current V6 model starts at 33xxlb. Factor in a smaller, lighter aluminum V6 and a weight loss plan for the revised platform and the car should obviously get even lighter content considered.

Originally Posted by gladiatoro

I thought 2012 is when the all new Mustang appears NEW body and drive train with the 5.0 , the 5.0 will be released sooner me thinks to compete with the Maro and Chally

You are correct regarding the engines, but the new Mustang wont be here before the 2012CY at the earliest.

[Congoman775]

Originally Posted by syr74

I've seen that info as well, but it isn't accurate. 5.0L V8 will intro sometime during the 2011MY. In fact, Windsor is tooling up for that motor as we speak (and has been for some time)



The current V6 model starts at 3300lb and change, and that with the boat anchor 4.0L V6 under hood which still uses a cast iron block and which has huge bore spacing making it extremely long. The 3.5L V6 is all aluminum and far smaller overall. Factor in the reality that the platform has reportedly gone on a bit of a diet and weight loss of a couple hundred pounds isn't at all difficult to believe. But, as I said before, this is just a guess.

The V6 model is 3400 and change, but even closer to 3500.



D2C is DEW98-derived, but it's already lighter than the older DEW98 platform it sprang from and has been since it's debut. As stated above a current V6 model starts at 33xxlb. Factor in a smaller, lighter aluminum V6 and a weight loss plan for the revised platform and the car should obviously get even lighter content considered.



You are correct regarding the engines, but the new Mustang wont be here before the 2012CY at the earliest.

The Mustang interior does look bland. But it looks a higher quality of bland than their last bland!

[BowtieGuy]

I don't know how people keep coming up with ideas that the Mustang is going to weigh less that it currently does. Current platform doesn't come close to meeting new safety standards, and that adds a alot of weight.

Even if they use weight saving parts all over (which they would have to just to keep the weight where it is now, much less lighter) that would skyrocket the sticker price, which is not the Mustang's M.O., always being known for cheap performance.

[Georgie]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

The Mustang interior does look bland. But it looks a higher quality of bland than their last bland!

hahahaa i guess you are a fan of scifi interior of the new maro! AUTOBOTS TRANSFORM ahahahaha

and of course it will be lighter in the v6 especially the duratec is wayyyyy lighter than the cologne i thought this was common knowledge???

[BowtieGuy]

The engine may be lighter but the overall car will not be.

[CHVY4LF]

It looks stupid and the rear end looks like a mix of the camaro the challenger and the mustang. Tl least in the drawing

[syr74]

Originally Posted by Congoman

The V6 model is 3400 and change, but even closer to 3500.

You can option a V6 model up and come close to 3500lb, but they don't start that way. Even after the weight gain brought on by the 2007 chassis 'upgrade' V6 Mustang's start in the neighborhood of 3375lb in base trim with a manual tranny. We've seen this in specs printed by auto rags who have actually weighed the cars, like Motor Trend (they actually claim the base V6 starts closer to 3350lb) and with owners who have weighed their own cars. 3500lb is just about where a base GT starts these days, with some coming in less than that depending on options.

Worth mentioning here is that, in the real world, the Mustang weighs just about what Ford says it does. That may not seem strange to some, but the reality is that most automakers, and Ford isn't immune, are a bit optimistic when releasing factory specs for curb weight. But Ford hasn't done that with the S197 Mustang.

Originally Posted by Congoman775

The Mustang interior does look bland. But it looks a higher quality of bland than their last bland!

I actually like the new interior a great deal. The 2005-2009 interior was a sore spot for me, with this one looking to be much better to my eye. But the very serious, straightforward look the new Mustang's threads wear does slant toward my personal preference quite a bit, so I'm likely a bit biased and the average Joe may not agree with me.

Originally Posted by Bowtie Guy

I don't know how people keep coming up with ideas that the Mustang is going to weigh less that it currently does. Current platform doesn't come close to meeting new safety standards, and that adds a alot of weight.

Even if they use weight saving parts all over (which they would have to just to keep the weight where it is now, much less lighter) that would skyrocket the sticker price, which is not the Mustang's M.O., always being known for cheap performance.

You can choose to believe it or not....but this is how it will break down.

2011 GT will weight more than the current model, but not by much due to a heavier engine and transmission. (think a bit less than 100lb) The chassis will be lighter. All weight gain will be due to the heavier drive-line and increased feature content. (2010 GT could weigh less than the current model since it will use the new chassis and the old 4.6L,5M which is lighter than the 5.0L, 6M coming for the 2011MY, but increased feature content makes this uncertain.)

2011 V6 model will weigh less than the current model, with both the chassis and drive-line weighing less overall than the current car.

An interesting aside, Ford's current strategy calls for all cars to lose at least 250lb during their next, major redesign...including the Mustang. That means Ford's goal weight for the upcoming, GRWD-based Mustang GT due in the 2012-2013MY is roughly 3250-3300lb in base trim. And that is a minimum goal weight for the next model. Whether they can hit that mark or not is another question altogether.

.....and of course it will be lighter in the v6 especially since the Duratec is wayyyyy lighter than the Cologne. I thought this was common knowledge???

Exactly. The Cologne V6 is a surprisingly large engine, longer in length than several smallblock V8 engines. And with the cast iron block it really packs on the pounds. In contrast the Duratec V6 is potentially the smallest V6 in this size range currently in mass production, and it's all aluminum. Even if the chassis packed on 100lb the the V6 Mustang would still lose weight.

[kevin2323]

safety standards...nuff said