Mustang Pricing is Up

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Zeus

Sure what do you judge 'performance' by?


(This the 370z vs. Evo X GSR... the faster of the two Evo's)

The Z will be in bold.

0-60? (4.7 vs. 5.2)

0-100? (12.0 vs. 13.9)

1/4 mile? (13.3 vs. 13.8)

Lateral G.? (.99 vs. .99)

Curb Weight? (3355lbs vs. 3585lbs)

Braking From 60? (106 vs. 111ft)

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...test_data.html

And this is just raw technical data. The Z is the more enjoyable car to drive, it feels much more balanced, and has that very cool rev-match manual.

Not to mention the interior materials used in the Z are light years ahead of that in the mitsu.

The Evo is a great performance car, but its not top 3.... unless we are weighing performance/practicality.

Hold up, I thought the MR was the better Evolution X? I thought it also had a slightly upgraded suspension compared to the GSR.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

You would be wrong. I was just suggesting that, although the 370Z, the Camaro and the Mustang are all in the same general price bracket, one of them is not like the other. That's all.

I'm glad it's that way too. It needs to be that way, considering it would be boring for the consumer to have the choice of 3+ cars that are basically the same. Different companies take different directions to get different results.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Hold up, I thought the MR was the better Evolution X? Doesn't one push out 360 compared to 310? I thought it also had a slightly upgraded suspension compared to the GSR.

The MR is the more expensive Evo which has an upgraded suspension and autobox. It might put up marginally better skid-pad numbers, but it is heavier (with no more power) resulting in it being considerably slower.

If you'd rather compare this to the 370z, be my guest. I think you will find that the GSR compares more favorably.

Originally Posted by a_Username

I'm glad it's that way too. It needs to be that way, considering it would be boring for the consumer to have the choice of 3+ cars that are basically the same. Different companies take different directions to get different results.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Zeus

The MR is the more expensive Evo which has an upgraded suspension and autobox. It might put up marginally better skid-pad numbers, but it is heavier (with no more power) resulting in it being considerably slower.

If you'd rather compare this to the 370z, be my guest. I think you will find that the GSR compares more favorably.

Apparently the Top Gear episode I watched state one of the Evolution X's he had pushed out 360 HP, and the other one like 310. That must be like Japanese models or something, but it's irrelevant now. How much heavier are we talking about here?

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Apparently the Top Gear episode I watched state one of the Evolution X's he had pushed out 360 HP, and the other one like 310. That must be like Japanese models or something, but it's irrelevant now. How much heavier are we talking about here?

That version is not sold in the US.


Idk exactly how much heavier it is. 150lbs maybe?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Apparently the Top Gear episode I watched state one of the Evolution X's he had pushed out 360 HP, and the other one like 310. That must be like Japanese models or something, but it's irrelevant now. How much heavier are we talking about here?

I think that was from a tuner shop, sorta like the ZL-575 Camaros.

[comiskeybum]

bottom line is that your gonna have 2 fantastic cars at roughly the same pricing and roughly same performance. mustang will prolly be more fun taking corners and such and camaro will prolly be more fun in a straight line. nothing wrong with that. mustang will sound better while camaro will look more like a classic muscle car.

its all up to your personal taste guys. just buy the car you want and have fun. none of us are race car drivers.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I think that was from a tuner shop, sorta like the ZL-575 Camaros.

Might be. I thought I was wrong but I thought all the Evolution X's had like right at 300 HP. Oh well!

[Mr CLuTcH]

Originally Posted by comiskeybum

bottom line is that your gonna have 2 fantastic cars at roughly the same pricing and roughly same performance. mustang will prolly be more fun taking corners and such and camaro will prolly be more fun in a straight line. nothing wrong with that. mustang will sound better while camaro will look more like a classic muscle car.

its all up to your personal taste guys. just buy the car you want and have fun. none of us are race car drivers.

One of the most balanced things a Mustang owner can ever say......

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Might be. I thought I was wrong but I thought all the Evolution X's had like right at 300 HP. Oh well!

They do.... the one you were talking about has 350+

[syr74]

Originally Posted by Zeus

No its not. It keeps up with the M3............


Lets not get carried away here

Just a thought, but it is worth noting IMO. A developmental mule kept up with the M3 over six months ago. Ford kept tweaking the handling specs on the 2011 Mustang until the very last minute. You never know....and what a coupe that would be.

[bpmurr]

Originally Posted by Zeus

Actually I think Ford raising the price on the Mustang is the best thing they could have done.

Please explain, I'm interested in your logic on this.

[meanmike]

I think I'm buying this. My local dealer has one on their lot, and let me tell you these pic's dont do it justice. I am going in tomorrow for a test drive. I just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by syr74

Just a thought, but it is worth noting IMO. A developmental mule kept up with the M3 over six months ago. Ford kept tweaking the handling specs on the 2011 Mustang until the very last minute. You never know....and what a coupe that would be.

It is impressive enough that the Mustang could hang with the M3 over any stretch of track... but we don't know how long they raced, and for how many laps.

I would like nothing more than to have a 35k American alternative to the M3, but I just don't see it happening.... and for the record, I don't think the GT could have hung with the M3 over a longer period of time with good drivers.... but who knows. The 5.0L has a lot of potential.