2010 Mustang

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by nUcLeArEnVoY

That is some nice sportsmanship on Ford's part, I will admit.

That is nice.
Not that I'm GM....but from one fan to the other team: "thanks"

[Georgie]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

Is there anything substantial to back these claims?

i mean... We could have a 2012 camaro with 1200 bhp which was co-developed with bughatti... in theory.

there will be at least a 5.0 i got a dollar on it; they already have the engine for sale as a crate motor but we'll see i suppose

[nUcLeArEnVoY]

Full official pic of the dash, guys - another one of Ford's striptease pics:

[lalometalik]

alright! future brand-new junk!

[shank0668]

Originally Posted by nUcLeArEnVoY

Full official pic of the dash, guys - another one of Ford's striptease pics:

its no camaro

[KatarHol]

It looks alot better than the current interior. I like the interior on the Camaro too,if either car has a interior as nice as the G8,that would be awesome. I'm thinking or hoping the Camaro will be close,the G8 reminded me of my old E46 BMW,that car had the nicest interior of any car i've owned.

[syr74]

Regarding the Mustang questions.

The 5.0L V8 is coming for the Mustang but not until the 2011MY, the first year of the redesign will make do with the current 3-valve 4.6L, albeit apparently with a bit of a hp boost compared to the current model. The V6 will be replaced as well, with the new 3.5L Duratec V6. Current info circulating for the 5.0L says hp and tq will ring in at a minimum of 400hp and 360lb-ft of torque. (actually, we've known that for a long time) Put really simply hp and torque numbers will come in above those estimates with the real question being by how much. Could be 405hp and 365lb-ft of torque or it could be 425hp and 390lb-ft of torque.

What we know about 5.0L particulars. DOHC heads very similar to those used on the Ford GT and GT500 with changes made for cheaper/easier production and other improvements. Aluminum block based on the existing mod design but heavily revised with a ~3.63 inch bore and a longer stroke. Direct injection is on tap for future use but wont be used on this initial ~400hp version. About 60lb heavier than the existing 3-valve 4.6L due to the DOHC heads riding atop. All other things being equal fuel economy improves compared to the existing 3-valve 4.6L V8 used in the GT despite the increase in hp.

Specs for the 3.5L V6 to be used in the Mustang are largely unknown but most folks in the know are looking for something very close to run of the mill 3.5L V6. Unfortunately, this doesn't really tell us much since the 3.5L is apparently due for something of a power upgrade in the near future and that is the version the Mustang's V6 will be based upon. Personally, I'm looking for ~275hp in Mustang trim, but that is just a guess.

2011MY Mustang GT with the 5.0L will gain weight but not as much as some here seem to believe..think 100lb and you likely wont be too far off with virtually all of that being due to the heavier engine and six speed manual. In fact, those two features aside the rest of the car is apparently getting lighter, not heavier....and 100lb appears to be a very safe estimate at this time (actual weight gain between similarly equipped cars would very well be less) Ironically the refreshed 2010MY GT could prove to be the lightest V8-powered S197 Mustang ever built by Ford since it uses the lighter 4.6L 3-valve, although increased 'feature' content means this isn't a given. Also worth mentioning. The upgraded brakes needed to deal with the 400hp 5.0L wont bow until the engine does...so the 2010 will make do with the old brakes as well.

2011MY V6 will absolutely be lighter than the current car since it will use the 3.5L V6 which is seriously lighter than the 4.0L boat anchor in the V6 model now. Based on 2009MY curb weight it seems possible that a 2011 V6 could even ring in below 3200lb, but other changes like a possible six speed trans and suspensions/brake/content upgrades mean this too is uncertain.

[drivingincamaro]

Originally Posted by syr74

Regarding the Mustang questions.

The 5.0L V8 is coming for the Mustang but not until the 2011MY, the first year of the redesign will make do with the current 3-valve 4.6L, albeit apparently with a bit of a hp boost compared to the current model. The V6 will be replaced as well, with the new 3.5L Duratec V6. Current info circulating for the 5.0L says hp and tq will ring in at a minimum of 400hp and 360lb-ft of torque. (actually, we've known that for a long time) Put really simply hp and torque numbers will come in above those estimates with the real question being by how much. Could be 405hp and 365lb-ft of torque or it could be 425hp and 390lb-ft of torque.

What we know about 5.0L particulars. DOHC heads very similar to those used on the Ford GT and GT500 with changes made for cheaper/easier production and other improvements. Aluminum block based on the existing mod design but heavily revised with a ~3.63 inch bore and a longer stroke. Direct injection is on tap for future use but wont be used on this initial ~400hp version. About 60lb heavier than the existing 3-valve 4.6L due to the DOHC heads riding atop. All other things being equal fuel economy improves compared to the existing 3-valve 4.6L V8 used in the GT despite the increase in hp.

Specs for the 3.5L V6 to be used in the Mustang are largely unknown but most folks in the know are looking for something very close to run of the mill 3.5L V6. Unfortunately, this doesn't really tell us much since the 3.5L is apparently due for something of a power upgrade in the near future and that is the version the Mustang's V6 will be based upon. Personally, I'm looking for ~275hp in Mustang trim, but that is just a guess.

2011MY Mustang GT with the 5.0L will gain weight but not as much as some here seem to believe..think 100lb and you likely wont be too far off with virtually all of that being due to the heavier engine and six speed manual. In fact, those two features aside the rest of the car is apparently getting lighter, not heavier....and 100lb appears to be a very safe estimate at this time (actual weight gain between similarly equipped cars would very well be less) Ironically the refreshed 2010MY GT could prove to be the lightest V8-powered S197 Mustang ever built by Ford since it uses the lighter 4.6L 3-valve, although increased 'feature' content means this isn't a given. Also worth mentioning. The upgraded brakes needed to deal with the 400hp 5.0L wont bow until the engine does...so the 2010 will make do with the old brakes as well.

2011MY V6 will absolutely be lighter than the current car since it will use the 3.5L V6 which is seriously lighter than the 4.0L boat anchor in the V6 model now. Based on 2009MY curb weight it seems possible that a 2011 V6 could even ring in below 3200lb, but other changes like a possible six speed trans and suspensions/brake/content upgrades mean this too is uncertain.

i hope you copyed and pasted that


hes a spy!! jk


if there was no camaro concept car the mustang would be number #1 on my list

[iPODFAN11]

Originally Posted by Congoman775

Is there anything substantial to back these claims?

i mean... We could have a 2012 camaro with 1200 bhp which was co-developed with bughatti... in theory.

I would believe he is right. Ford has moved to a 3-yr life cycle for thier lineup of cars and trucks. I do recall reading about the IRS in the stang. I will be back with some info soon (if I can find any).

[Congoman775]

Originally Posted by syr74

Regarding the Mustang questions.

The 5.0L V8 is coming for the Mustang but not until the 2011MY, the first year of the redesign will make do with the current 3-valve 4.6L, albeit apparently with a bit of a hp boost compared to the current model. The V6 will be replaced as well, with the new 3.5L Duratec V6. Current info circulating for the 5.0L says hp and tq will ring in at a minimum of 400hp and 360lb-ft of torque. (actually, we've known that for a long time) Put really simply hp and torque numbers will come in above those estimates with the real question being by how much. Could be 405hp and 365lb-ft of torque or it could be 425hp and 390lb-ft of torque.

What we know about 5.0L particulars. DOHC heads very similar to those used on the Ford GT and GT500 with changes made for cheaper/easier production and other improvements. Aluminum block based on the existing mod design but heavily revised with a ~3.63 inch bore and a longer stroke. Direct injection is on tap for future use but wont be used on this initial ~400hp version. About 60lb heavier than the existing 3-valve 4.6L due to the DOHC heads riding atop. All other things being equal fuel economy improves compared to the existing 3-valve 4.6L V8 used in the GT despite the increase in hp.

Specs for the 3.5L V6 to be used in the Mustang are largely unknown but most folks in the know are looking for something very close to run of the mill 3.5L V6. Unfortunately, this doesn't really tell us much since the 3.5L is apparently due for something of a power upgrade in the near future and that is the version the Mustang's V6 will be based upon. Personally, I'm looking for ~275hp in Mustang trim, but that is just a guess.

2011MY Mustang GT with the 5.0L will gain weight but not as much as some here seem to believe..think 100lb and you likely wont be too far off with virtually all of that being due to the heavier engine and six speed manual. In fact, those two features aside the rest of the car is apparently getting lighter, not heavier....and 100lb appears to be a very safe estimate at this time (actual weight gain between similarly equipped cars would very well be less) Ironically the refreshed 2010MY GT could prove to be the lightest V8-powered S197 Mustang ever built by Ford since it uses the lighter 4.6L 3-valve, although increased 'feature' content means this isn't a given. Also worth mentioning. The upgraded brakes needed to deal with the 400hp 5.0L wont bow until the engine does...so the 2010 will make do with the old brakes as well.

2011MY V6 will absolutely be lighter than the current car since it will use the 3.5L V6 which is seriously lighter than the 4.0L boat anchor in the V6 model now. Based on 2009MY curb weight it seems possible that a 2011 V6 could even ring in below 3200lb, but other changes like a possible six speed trans and suspensions/brake/content upgrades mean this too is uncertain.

ill believe all this when it happens, but that doesnt mean i doubt it.

honestly, if there was no G8, no Challenger, no 350z, no A4, no 328i , and no used corvettes, the mustang would be at the top of my list!!!

JK

[gladiatoro]

new pics of 2010 Mustang GT , click on the link , http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-mustang-future.html

[gladiatoro]

let the pony wars begin

Originally Posted by syr74

Regarding the Mustang questions.

The 5.0L V8 is coming for the Mustang but not until the 2011MY, the first year of the redesign will make do with the current 3-valve 4.6L, albeit apparently with a bit of a hp boost compared to the current model. The V6 will be replaced as well, with the new 3.5L Duratec V6. Current info circulating for the 5.0L says hp and tq will ring in at a minimum of 400hp and 360lb-ft of torque. (actually, we've known that for a long time) Put really simply hp and torque numbers will come in above those estimates with the real question being by how much. Could be 405hp and 365lb-ft of torque or it could be 425hp and 390lb-ft of torque.

What we know about 5.0L particulars. DOHC heads very similar to those used on the Ford GT and GT500 with changes made for cheaper/easier production and other improvements. Aluminum block based on the existing mod design but heavily revised with a ~3.63 inch bore and a longer stroke. Direct injection is on tap for future use but wont be used on this initial ~400hp version. About 60lb heavier than the existing 3-valve 4.6L due to the DOHC heads riding atop. All other things being equal fuel economy improves compared to the existing 3-valve 4.6L V8 used in the GT despite the increase in hp.

Specs for the 3.5L V6 to be used in the Mustang are largely unknown but most folks in the know are looking for something very close to run of the mill 3.5L V6. Unfortunately, this doesn't really tell us much since the 3.5L is apparently due for something of a power upgrade in the near future and that is the version the Mustang's V6 will be based upon. Personally, I'm looking for ~275hp in Mustang trim, but that is just a guess.

2011MY Mustang GT with the 5.0L will gain weight but not as much as some here seem to believe..think 100lb and you likely wont be too far off with virtually all of that being due to the heavier engine and six speed manual. In fact, those two features aside the rest of the car is apparently getting lighter, not heavier....and 100lb appears to be a very safe estimate at this time (actual weight gain between similarly equipped cars would very well be less) Ironically the refreshed 2010MY GT could prove to be the lightest V8-powered S197 Mustang ever built by Ford since it uses the lighter 4.6L 3-valve, although increased 'feature' content means this isn't a given. Also worth mentioning. The upgraded brakes needed to deal with the 400hp 5.0L wont bow until the engine does...so the 2010 will make do with the old brakes as well.

2011MY V6 will absolutely be lighter than the current car since it will use the 3.5L V6 which is seriously lighter than the 4.0L boat anchor in the V6 model now. Based on 2009MY curb weight it seems possible that a 2011 V6 could even ring in below 3200lb, but other changes like a possible six speed trans and suspensions/brake/content upgrades mean this too is uncertain.

[radz28]

OH SNAP! BRING OUT THE Z28!!!

[The_Stache]

Originally Posted by syr74

Regarding the Mustang questions.

The 5.0L V8 is coming for the Mustang but not until the 2011MY, the first year of the redesign will make do with the current 3-valve 4.6L, albeit apparently with a bit of a hp boost compared to the current model. The V6 will be replaced as well, with the new 3.5L Duratec V6. Current info circulating for the 5.0L says hp and tq will ring in at a minimum of 400hp and 360lb-ft of torque. (actually, we've known that for a long time) Put really simply hp and torque numbers will come in above those estimates with the real question being by how much. Could be 405hp and 365lb-ft of torque or it could be 425hp and 390lb-ft of torque.

What we know about 5.0L particulars. DOHC heads very similar to those used on the Ford GT and GT500 with changes made for cheaper/easier production and other improvements. Aluminum block based on the existing mod design but heavily revised with a ~3.63 inch bore and a longer stroke. Direct injection is on tap for future use but wont be used on this initial ~400hp version. About 60lb heavier than the existing 3-valve 4.6L due to the DOHC heads riding atop. All other things being equal fuel economy improves compared to the existing 3-valve 4.6L V8 used in the GT despite the increase in hp.

Specs for the 3.5L V6 to be used in the Mustang are largely unknown but most folks in the know are looking for something very close to run of the mill 3.5L V6. Unfortunately, this doesn't really tell us much since the 3.5L is apparently due for something of a power upgrade in the near future and that is the version the Mustang's V6 will be based upon. Personally, I'm looking for ~275hp in Mustang trim, but that is just a guess.

2011MY Mustang GT with the 5.0L will gain weight but not as much as some here seem to believe..think 100lb and you likely wont be too far off with virtually all of that being due to the heavier engine and six speed manual. In fact, those two features aside the rest of the car is apparently getting lighter, not heavier....and 100lb appears to be a very safe estimate at this time (actual weight gain between similarly equipped cars would very well be less) Ironically the refreshed 2010MY GT could prove to be the lightest V8-powered S197 Mustang ever built by Ford since it uses the lighter 4.6L 3-valve, although increased 'feature' content means this isn't a given. Also worth mentioning. The upgraded brakes needed to deal with the 400hp 5.0L wont bow until the engine does...so the 2010 will make do with the old brakes as well.

2011MY V6 will absolutely be lighter than the current car since it will use the 3.5L V6 which is seriously lighter than the 4.0L boat anchor in the V6 model now. Based on 2009MY curb weight it seems possible that a 2011 V6 could even ring in below 3200lb, but other changes like a possible six speed trans and suspensions/brake/content upgrades mean this too is uncertain.

All correct.. except for the date.. the latest inside news has the following.

2010 model - body change and slight hp boost to current drivetrain
2011 model - same as 2010
2012 model - same body, but new drive train is introduced (speculated as the 5.0)