NCAA Football Trash Talk Thread....

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

not really..UGA is in my blood..so it doesnt matter what they do or where they play im true..no excuses...now some folks just disappear when their team is dong bad or has a bad play...or have to bicker to prove their point..lmao

or stick around through the entire season to piss people off because his QB got injured and sent his team into the ground.........

[1320junkie]

Originally Posted by Zeus

or stick around through the entire season to piss people off because his QB got injured and sent his team into the ground.........

Whose team is that? Not UGA's our defense and penalties screwed our season.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

Whose team is that? Not UGA's or defense and penalties screwed our season.

[nova]

Originally Posted by Zeus

He got kicked out, and I wouldn't be surprised if they buried that story for his own sake.

If you can show some evidence....

Originally Posted by Zeus

Wait hold on. I hear something stupid. Is someone......... no they wouldn't..... I can't imagine someone would be boasting about stats.... when playing in JUNIOR COLLEGE AGAINST PATHETIC COMPETITION. Hell what do you think a real QB would throw for down there? 80%? 90%?

And yet performance against the JuCo competition is good enough to rate every JuCo prospect in the nation.

You're also taking a pretty contradictory position. On one hand, most of the guys playing JuCo ball are crap, then on the other managing to complete a lot of passes to WRs (who you just said are crap) doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Zeus

And why on earth would he go to hickville, USA instead of going to a real program like OU?

Seriously, why would a dual threat QB ever choose a program running the spread option over one running a pro-style offense. Makes absolutely no sense at all...

Another reason may be opportunity to actually play. Sitting on the bench at a "real program" doesn't do a whole lot for a player's future prospects vs actually playing in "hicksville" as you so eloquently put it. If you play and have any success in the SEC its going to bring attention to you whereas riding the pine won't.

And if Newton is so terrible at passing like you say, what makes you think he's going to play vs one of the other 4 QBs already on the OU roster or the one currently committed? Landry Jones passing stats are nearly as good as Newton's but he was playing against Big 12 Ds and not Juco, so if it comes down to "who's the better passer" Newton is going to lose by your own logic...

Originally Posted by Zeus

I know he's dumb as rocks but Common.

Thats ironic right there....

ETA

And just doing a little digging, since 2002 OU has signed 2 dual threat QBs, one never played a snap and the other barely played as a backup when Bradford was hurt. History would not be on Newton's side if he hopes to ever really play @ OU...

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by nova

If you can show some evidence....

I don't have his school records. Maybe you can go from what you do have about how smart the kid is.... Blows a scholarship for stealing a classmates laptop and then hiding it from the police by throwing it out of his dorm window...........

And yet performance against the JuCo competition is good enough to rate every JuCo prospect in the nation.

You have to rate them with something, but you have to keep it in perspective. He had bad stats as a JUCO player, he'll have horrible stats as a D1 player.

You're also taking a pretty contradictory position. On one hand, most of the guys playing JuCo ball are crap, then on the other managing to complete a lot of passes to WRs (who you just said are crap) doesn't matter.

They are crap because they couldn't do it at a higher level. I had an 84% completion percentage in HS. Does that mean my receivers and I are world class players, or does it mean we didn't play competition.......

Seriously, why would a dual threat QB ever choose a program running the spread option over one running a pro-style offense. Makes absolutely no sense at all...

Because it's night and day a better program, and you can bet Stoops is telling that kid he will have his own special running package.

Another reason may be opportunity to actually play. Sitting on the bench at a "real program" doesn't do a whole lot for a player's future prospects vs actually playing in "hicksville" as you so eloquently put it. If you play and have any success in the SEC its going to bring attention to you whereas riding the pine won't.

OU isn't exactly overflowing with big physical athletic QB's who could have their own running package. BTW playing on TV generally brings you more attention lol

And if Newton is so terrible at passing like you say, what makes you think he's going to play vs one of the other 4 QBs already on the OU roster or the one currently committed? Landry Jones passing stats are nearly as good as Newton's but he was playing against Big 12 Ds and not Juco, so if it comes down to "who's the better passer" Newton is going to lose by your own logic...

Read above.



Thats ironic right there....

More like simple. He's being recruited as a running QB. His passing stats are pathetic, but it won't mater because he won't be throwing.

[nova]

I don't have his school records. Maybe you can go from what you do have about how smart the kid is.... Blows a scholarship for stealing a classmates laptop and then hiding it from the police by throwing it out of his dorm window...........

I'm making no claim of his GPA so I have nothing to prove. I'm just saying there's no evidence of a 1.5GPA. You made the claim of a 1.5, its up to you to back it up...

They are crap because they couldn't do it at a higher level. I had an 84% completion percentage in HS. Does that mean my receivers and I are world class players, or does it mean we didn't play competition.......

Depends on a lot of things. You can't sit here and tell me that ALL the competition they faced, all the way up to and through the JuCo NC was craptastic to the point his passing numbers are meaningless.

A good QB can make up somewhat for bad WRs and good WRs/bad secondary can make up somewhat for a bad QB but I don't think its reasonable to assume that his WRs were just that good or the secondaries just that bad to inflate his stats.

Because it's night and day a better program, and you can bet Stoops is telling that kid he will have his own special running package.

Then Stoops is not just a liar but a damn liar. And if Newton goes there he'll be a fool for believing him.

See what I wrote above about him NEVER doing it with any of the other dual threat QBs he's had lately. A dual threat who can't pass isn't going to play in a pro-style offense....

More like simple. He's being recruited as a running QB. His passing stats are pathetic, but it won't mater because he won't be throwing.

You're right, he won't be throwing, he'll be riding the ****ing bench all the way to football oblivion at OU...

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by nova

I'm making no claim of his GPA so I have nothing to prove. I'm just saying there's no evidence of a 1.5GPA. You made the claim of a 1.5, its up to you to back it up...

You love that thumb smilie. It'd be better if you used it following intelligent points. Anyways the GPA thing is common knowledge among Gator Fans, its one reason he ended up playing Junior College as apposed to other players who get into legal trouble and end up just fine.


Depends on a lot of things. You can't sit here and tell me that ALL the competition they faced, all the way up to and through the JuCo NC was craptastic to the point his passing numbers are meaningless.

He played in the JUCO NC game?

A good QB can make up somewhat for bad WRs and good WRs/bad secondary can make up somewhat for a bad QB but I don't think its reasonable to assume that his WRs were just that good or the secondaries just that bad to inflate his stats.

Your arguing about X when people care about Y.

Then Stoops is not just a liar but a damn liar. And if Newton goes there he'll be a fool for believing him.

Why? What makes you think that Stoop's wouldn't install a running package?

See what I wrote above about him NEVER doing it with any of the other dual threat QBs he's had lately. A dual threat who can't pass isn't going to play in a pro-style offense....

Newton isn't a real Dual Threat QB. He's a running QB. Dual threat implies that he can beat you two ways, and he isn't going to beat anyone in D1 throwing the ball.

You're right, he won't be throwing, he'll be riding the ****ing bench all the way to football oblivion at OU...

Clearly you don't understand.

I'm thinking this is a good time to end this conversation.


Long story short is that the guy sucks at passing, and is a great runner. He is being recruited by OU because they see everyone else having success with dual threat QB's, and now that the running package is popular and successful they want a spot on the bandwagon.

And I think it's great that you guys have our old OC Dan Mullen (Who we wanted fired.... and made websites for.... and facebook groups http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com/topic/24355) and you guys are 'up and coming' but I'd rather take limited snaps at OU than be the man at Miss st.

[Jekyll-N-Hyde]

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

not really..UGA is in my blood..so it doesnt matter what they do or where they play im true..no excuses...now some folks just disappear when their team is doing bad or has a bad play...or have to bicker to prove their point..lmao

Couldnt have said it any better. I'm with my Team win or LosE
Everyone has has a down year. I'm one of the first to say when my team played like shit but that doesnt keep me from coming around and I sure wont be sitting here talking about someones problems to make myself feel better.

I am 28 and have been a Texas Fan for 28 years.
I have been to every single Texas/OU game since I was 6 months old.
I went to Texas. I have set through the Era during the 90's when losing
was a trend and I have been through the years OU had us down 5 and of course Now. As our moto says " We are Texas " I am Texas win or Lose.

im not here to pee in someones cheerios when im only down. im here to pee in them when I gotta pee reguardless of our record lol

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Zeus

[1320junkie]

Originally Posted by Jekyll-N-Hyde

im not here to pee in someones cheerios when im only down. im here to pee in them when I gotta pee reguardless of our record lol

lmao...

[nova]

Originally Posted by Zeus

You love that thumb smilie. It'd be better if you used it following intelligent points.

Don't like me pointing out the fact that you're not backing your claims up huh

Originally Posted by Zeus

Anyways the GPA thing is common knowledge among Gator Fans, its one reason he ended up playing Junior College as apposed to other players who get into legal trouble and end up just fine.

Common knowledge?

Its "common knowledge" among Mustang fans that Camaros suck, doesn't make it true. If what you're saying is so widely known, acknowledged and most importantly true, then it shouldn't be hard to back up.

Like one of my professors told me as a freshman when I was talking out my ass "Back it up or shut it up."

Originally Posted by Zeus

He played in the JUCO NC game?

Duh huh bro. Haven't been paying attention have ya

http://www.njcaa.org/newsArticle.cfm?articleId=9929

Originally Posted by Zeus

I'm thinking this is a good time to end this conversation.

Because you're wrong?

Originally Posted by Zeus

Long story short is that the guy sucks at passing, and is a great runner. He is being recruited by OU because they see everyone else having success with dual threat QB's, and now that the running package is popular and successful they want a spot on the bandwagon.

Running QBs (like your man Tebow) work because the D is never sure whether they're going to run or throw, especially in short yardage situations (3rd and Tebow anyone?). If they can't throw, it doesn't work because the D knows its probably going to be a run play. If Newton can't throw like you claim, then he's not going to work out too well is he?

If he can throw though, that kinda undermines everything you've been saying.

http://jcfootball.scout.com/a.z?s=87...=1&nid=4225445

He has great size for a quarterback, a strong arm and can run. His leadership skills are evident on and off the field, he is the unquestioned leader of his team. In the game he had a field day throwing into the flats and picked apart the defense all day long. He did not have any opportunities to air it out but he was good on his other passes of the day. Very effecient passer, he had few mistakes in a Championship game.

Sure sounds like a guy I would want for a "run package" in a pro-style offense

Originally Posted by Zeus

And I think it's great that you guys have our old OC Dan Mullen (Who we wanted fired.... and made websites for.... and facebook groups http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com/topic/24355)

Just shows some gators fans aren't too bright.

Dan Mullen leaves for MSU, gators offensive production and effectiveness goes down (despite returning a LOT of players including Superman) and MSU offensive production and effectiveness goes up (despite returning a LOT of players including a shitty QB).

Methinks thats not a coincidence...

Originally Posted by Zeus

and you guys are 'up and coming' but I'd rather take limited snaps at OU than be the man at Miss st.

At least you're honest about the fact you'd rather go nowhere.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by nova

Don't like me pointing out the fact that you're not backing your claims up huh

Yep that's it lol

Common knowledge?


Listen, I know a good deal of shit which isn't 'published' anywhere. If that bothers you, I'd seek help.

Its "common knowledge" among Mustang fans that Camaros suck, doesn't make it true. If what you're saying is so widely known, acknowledged and most importantly true, then it shouldn't be hard to back up.

A kid's school records aren't exactly on tap.

Like one of my professors told me as a freshman when I was talking out my ass "Back it up or shut it up."

I can't imagine why he would have said that to youuuuuuuu.........

Duh huh bro. Haven't been paying attention have ya

http://www.njcaa.org/newsArticle.cfm?articleId=9929

Nope didn't know that. But I will say this: Good players go to good teams. Good players don't go to Junior College. The competition isn't the same as playing D1.

Because you're wrong?

Because I'm tired of having to explain things that I would assume you should know to entertain a conversation like this

Running QBs (like your man Tebow) work because the D is never sure whether they're going to run or throw, especially in short yardage situations (3rd and Tebow anyone?). If they can't throw, it doesn't work because the D knows its probably going to be a run play. If Newton can't throw like you claim, then he's not going to work out too well is he?

That's the coaches job to get over that problem, not mine.

If he can throw though, that kinda undermines everything you've been saying.

Not really, he's a horrible passer. We were about to move him to Tight End


Just shows some gators fans aren't too bright.

Dan Mullen leaves for MSU, gators offensive production and effectiveness goes down (despite returning a LOT of players including Superman) and MSU offensive production and effectiveness goes up (despite returning a LOT of players including a shitty QB).

That had a lot more to do with our offense loosing nearly every solid WR and your old OC being... well.... what you'd expect at miss st.

Methinks thats not a coincidence...

Methinks you don't know too much



At least you're honest about the fact you'd rather go nowhere.

Methinks reading rainbow should be in your future

[PQ]

I agree with ALL of you.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by PQ

I agree with ALL of you.

Cam Newton took a visit to OU recently where he was quoted as saying he was 'awestruck' at how cool he thought it was.

Side note:

The Big Ten is talking about expanding... and if they do, they are going to have 12 teams, and the Big 12 will have 11.