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To me at least, in light of the Saab, Saturn, Opel and Hummer situations, this shouldn't really be a surprise. Make no mistake there are some very fine dedicated people within GM.
It appears that the needed cultural changes, just weren't hitting the comany fast enough. Regardless of whether Mr. Whitacre is a "car guy" or not, he is there to effect change. Much like Mulalley did at Ford. Like 'em or not, they made the correct moves at the right times to get through the mess. It will be very interesting to see what shakes out over the next few months. It is so sad to see this happen. But, in today's fluid economy dynamics, the ability to change and do it right, is something that has to be done pretty darn quick.
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I have also seen the way other manufacturers go about their business and boy, it is somewhat of a major divergent take on how to do business. From one perspective, it is human nature to rely on what is a given comfort level. But, by our very nature it is hard to change. In GM's case, that will be the core to any revival.
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The best way to fight this is to put product on the road that people HAVE to have (like the Camaro) and reward the "good dealers" by keeping their shelves full of that product. Dealers that deliver anything less than a superb customer experience should be taken out behind the barn and shot in the head. As that is illegal in most countries GM sells vehicles, the next best thing to do is starve those dealers of "gotta have" product and actively promote those dealers that know how to do it right. I think Chrysler took this approach with their "5 Star" dealer certification, but gotta have product comes first and, well, let's just leave it at that... To add, there's nothing wrong with insiders leading a company if those insiders are actually passionate about the product their company produces and they have the experience, instinct, and charisma to TRULY lead. |
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I was watching CNBC this morning before I went to school, and there was a segment on this.
One of the reporters actually met Bob Lutz, and he asked him if this comes as a surprise. Lutz says that the management did not know that this was going to happen. In fact, Lutz was so in the dark that he was not even in Detroit when this all happened. Wow. I'll see if I can go find an article on it.
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I found it.
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he was the one that drop ponitac. and kept saturn. glad to see him go!
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Pontiac was deliberatly*sp? ran into the ground.
Shitty designs, no inhouse anything, just sell sell sell oh its not selling, must be the brand. Oh yes it could not possibly be the junk clone mobiles they were forced to sell. Last edited by SleepWarz; 12-02-2009 at 08:51 PM. Reason: get off my back grammar nazis =p |
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He was the reason GM still exists today. He guided the company through the storm...he made all the smart decisions that has set the company up for future success. Including setting the tone for business going forward. I'm sad to see him go. :(
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