Cop driving stupidly kills 2 teens - Page 6

Partick · 11-19-2009, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

It's harder at night to judge depth perception and speed with oncoming headlights.

I hate it for the all of them. Cop and his family, Kids and their families.

This cop was not a bad person. Just made a really bad mistake.

Thats really what it boils down to...

PQ · 11-19-2009, 11:59 AM

If you look at the video closely, they ran the first light as it was going red. No color but you can see it change.

Nothing I haven't done before but not at that speed.

DropTheGloves · 11-19-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

It's harder at night to judge depth perception and speed with oncoming headlights.

I hate it for the all of them. Cop and his family, Kids and their families.

This cop was not a bad person. Just made a really bad mistake.

Maybe not, but he needs to be charged just like the rest of us would of been. No leniency.

PQ · 11-19-2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DropTheGloves

Maybe not, but he needs to be charged just like the rest of us would of been. No leniency.

IROCanSS · 11-19-2009, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DropTheGloves

Maybe not, but he needs to be charged just like the rest of us would of been. No leniency.

well... you or I'd be in jail. He is suspended WITH pay...

DropTheGloves · 11-19-2009, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

well... you or I'd be in jail. He is suspended WITH pay...

I know, it's unfair. It's amazing how Law enforcement get off with slaps on the hand. Then again life is unfair. Alwell. Our justice system is F'ed up.

lawdogg149 · 11-19-2009, 01:21 PM

So now the topic has moved to him only being suspended with pay. So since he is a cop he is guilty until proven otherwise. See you have proven with your own words. Your against cops and when you get a chance you bash them.

legrand · 11-19-2009, 01:21 PM

I'm not going to say that the cop wasn't wrong for speeding. But anyone that knows traffic laws will tell you that the vehicle going straight on the road always has the right away. Over the vehicle that is making a turn at the intersection. No matter what the speed of the vehicle traveling straight is. Unless it can be proven that the driver was under the influence or impaired some how.

Internally most departments have a general order that calls for termination of an employee that causes a fatal car accident. If the department finds the officer at fault, by not following department protocol. Which looks like the case here.

I don't believe that the officer should have been charged criminally, from what I read about the incident in the article. But I don't think that he should ever wear the shield again ether. This is only my opinion.

My heart goes out to the families of the victims.

DropTheGloves · 11-19-2009, 01:28 PM

I don't know who he was talking about when he said that the person likely voted for Obama, but I can tell you right now, I didn't.

lawdogg149 · 11-19-2009, 01:29 PM

should be closed

DropTheGloves · 11-19-2009, 01:31 PM

Like I said. He killed two individuals. He made a mistake, but he still needs to be convicted. If he is not convicted, then that shows what kind of justice system we have.

Partick · 11-19-2009, 01:36 PM

Oh boy the wheels are starting to fall off of this one...

CamaroFemme · 11-19-2009, 02:19 PM

Just a note about salaries - cost of living is a major factor in determining salaries. If salaries are inflated, everything else is. If they're low, everything else has to be. Renting a decent 2-bedroom apartment here in this part of Oklahoma is $275/mo. If I lived in California it would be triple that - but so would my salary for the same job. So it isn't just "how much does he make" it's "how much does he have to spend" as well. It's great if you make $80,000/yr. - unless you have to spend $120,000/yr.

Lordkane99 · 11-19-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

There have been times where I allready was moving and hurried up and went. Never making it really close or anything but there have also been times where I was about to but had to slam em' on when I realized the oncoming was hauling ass. Usually results in a middle finger by me. You shouldn't assume the car is driving the posted speed limit but certainly can't be accountable if they are doing well over.

Go out on the interstate one day when there is no traffic and drive 95 mph and then slow down to 40. The difference is more than just half. There is an exponential difference in velocity. Just because you are doubling the mph doesn't mean you double the stopping distance or effects of a collision. You MORE than double it. MUCH more.

I'm sorry. IMO, had he been doing 40 or 45 mph, there would have been NO contact. prabably not even much more than a slight breaking by the cop. I bet the cop wouldn't have even pulled the car over had he been doing 40.

I gotta yeild to the AI guy on here though. He's obviously more experienced and qualified to audit the video.

The officer is not proven guilty by this vid alone. After the investigation is done and all the facts are laid out then he should be punished if guilty. So yes he should be suspended with pay until then. A normal person would not have to worry about losing there job over this kind of stupidity. I have worked many accidents and yes the officers speed is a strong contributing factor, the accident would not have happened if the officer was doing the speed limit. It also may not have happened if the teens had been paying attention (officer had already passed the other speeding police car before the teens had started there turn) and if the had came to a full turn instead of cutting the corner (you can see the point of impact is not in the middle of the intersection and the inbound median on the right was in at the point of impact) or could that be just camera play? Won't find out until the AI investigates the crash scene.

Tragic either way.

11-19-2009, 11:59 AM	#72
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,717 View My Garage	If you look at the video closely, they ran the first light as it was going red. No color but you can see it change. Nothing I haven't done before but not at that speed. __________________

11-19-2009, 01:21 PM	#77
lawdogg149 Drives: Corvette ZO6 CSR edition #47 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Calhoun, GA Posts: 766 View My Garage	So now the topic has moved to him only being suspended with pay. So since he is a cop he is guilty until proven otherwise. See you have proven with your own words. Your against cops and when you get a chance you bash them. Last edited by Milk 1027; 11-19-2009 at 10:14 PM. Reason: edited political part

11-19-2009, 01:36 PM	#82
Partick Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 958	Oh boy the wheels are starting to fall off of this one... Last edited by Partick; 11-19-2009 at 02:25 PM.

11-19-2009, 02:19 PM	#83
CamaroFemme Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1,880	Just a note about salaries - cost of living is a major factor in determining salaries. If salaries are inflated, everything else is. If they're low, everything else has to be. Renting a decent 2-bedroom apartment here in this part of Oklahoma is $275/mo. If I lived in California it would be triple that - but so would my salary for the same job. So it isn't just "how much does he make" it's "how much does he have to spend" as well. It's great if you make $80,000/yr. - unless you have to spend $120,000/yr. __________________ -- My boyfriend don't mind it.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Wreckless Driving?	Bill Dillow	5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions	32	10-14-2009 01:15 PM
Ontario (Canada) Highway Traffic Act.. read so you dont lose your car	sigma_1966	Canada	10	08-11-2009 06:51 PM
First Time Getting Pulled Over! (by a mustang driving cop)	NightmareSS	5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions	35	08-06-2009 10:03 PM

11-19-2009, 01:21 PM	#78
legrand Drives: 2SS/RS, 87 Buick GN Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NY Posts: 9	I'm not going to say that the cop wasn't wrong for speeding. But anyone that knows traffic laws will tell you that the vehicle going straight on the road always has the right away. Over the vehicle that is making a turn at the intersection. No matter what the speed of the vehicle traveling straight is. Unless it can be proven that the driver was under the influence or impaired some how. Internally most departments have a general order that calls for termination of an employee that causes a fatal car accident. If the department finds the officer at fault, by not following department protocol. Which looks like the case here. I don't believe that the officer should have been charged criminally, from what I read about the incident in the article. But I don't think that he should ever wear the shield again ether. This is only my opinion. My heart goes out to the families of the victims.

11-19-2009, 01:28 PM	#79
DropTheGloves Account Suspended Drives: 2009 TT 335/2009 GSX-R 1000/ECT.. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 772	I don't know who he was talking about when he said that the person likely voted for Obama, but I can tell you right now, I didn't.

11-19-2009, 01:29 PM	#80
lawdogg149 Drives: Corvette ZO6 CSR edition #47 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Calhoun, GA Posts: 766 View My Garage	should be closed

11-19-2009, 01:31 PM	#81
DropTheGloves Account Suspended Drives: 2009 TT 335/2009 GSX-R 1000/ECT.. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 772	Like I said. He killed two individuals. He made a mistake, but he still needs to be convicted. If he is not convicted, then that shows what kind of justice system we have.