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DropTheGloves · 11-17-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

Not true. In your scenario, there will never be another good top drafted QB.

No PQ, you are not understanding what I am saying. What I am saying, is that there is a big difference between playing levels. Players in the nfl are quicker, and a lot smarter. Great qb's have been drafted outside of the top 10. Quite a few good ones. I believe Peyton Manning would be one of the few exceptions. The chances of a qb being good when being sent to a terrible team are almost zilch.

I honestly don't think sam bradford will be good. He is over hyped.

3 SS's · 11-17-2009, 07:05 PM

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/re...elease_id=1540,

then of course there's a sixth round pick playing up in Foxboro

PQ · 11-17-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DropTheGloves

No PQ, you are not understanding what I am saying. What I am saying, is that there is a big difference between playing levels. Players in the nfl are quicker, and a lot smarter. Great qb's have been drafted outside of the top 10. Quite a few good ones. I believe Peyton Manning would be one of the few exceptions. The chances of a qb being good when being sent to a terrible team are almost zilch.

I honestly don't think sam bradford will be good. He is over hyped.

Not like Ryan Leaf, Payton Manning, or Matt Lyhnart. Bradford is really not talked about that much. Tim Tebow, is overhyped.

DropTheGloves · 11-17-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

Not like Ryan Leaf, Payton Manning, or Matt Lyhnart. Bradford is really not talked about that much. Tim Tebow, is overhyped.

Bradford actually has not been talked about much this season because he's been injured most of it, and won't play another snap this year. Last year, they wouldn't stop talking about him. I would not say Peyton Manning is over hyped. Look at the dudes stats. Sure he had a terrible rookie year, but has proven year after year, why he will be, yes, will be the best qb ever, well...in most peoples eyes. Definitely in my eyes. I look at stats, not how many championship rings you have, even though it helps.

I already know TT is over hyped. I have stated he will be no better than a 3rd string qb in the nfl.

PQ · 11-17-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DropTheGloves

Bradford actually has not been talked about much this season because he's been injured most of it, and won't play another snap this year. Last year, they wouldn't stop talking about him. I would not say Peyton Manning is over hyped. Look at the dudes stats. Sure he had a terrible rookie year, but has proven year after year, why he will be, yes, will be the best qb ever, well...in most peoples eyes. Definitely in my eyes. I look at stats, not how many championship rings you have, even though it helps.

I already know TT is over hyped. I have stated he will be no better than a 3rd string qb in the nfl.

Manning went to one of the worst teams in the NFL at the time. So did Aikman. It can be done. Sure you'll have a crappy year but then it could get better really quick.

SScattergunSS · 11-17-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CynAgain

heh. about a buck twenty I'd say. lmao

I love Sylar? no really. I can only sleep for short periods of time. wen to bed early.

Hell NO! Lions can ruin anyone. players, coaches, general managers... you want to be a good football star... don't come to Detroit!

What can I really say right here? LOL And yeah, you know your numbers!!! And STILL worth every penny!!!

Jekyll-N-Hyde · 11-17-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PQ

Finish 7-9 and screw their chance.

Ok, I'd like to thank Ralph Wilson for the opportunity to be a part of this organization. I can assure you that I will do everything I can to stop him from becoming Al Davis, Jerry Jones, or Dan Snider any more. I will do what I can to make sure he stays in the owners box and out of the operations.

HIRED if you can do that lol

calflan · 11-17-2009, 11:12 PM

So, for the upcoming class, there are no QB's coming out that will be any good in the NFL, except those that get drafted low and a terrible team can make a great QB.

Uhhhh, I tend to disagree.

BlackSunsine · 11-18-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by calflan

So, for the upcoming class, there are no QB's coming out that will be any good in the NFL, except those that get drafted low and a terrible team can make a great QB.

Uhhhh, I tend to disagree.

Maybe My Broncos!!!

trm0002 · 11-18-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackSunsine

Maybe My Broncos!!!

Rumor mill-> Bills in premilimary discussions with Shanahan

I like that because they should be looking for a GM first and Shanahan can wear both hats. Talking to someone like Cower (ya right) would be putting the cart before the horse so to speak. A new GM has to be in place before a HC is hired- it's kind of his job to hire the HC...

Link-> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4667849

PQ · 11-18-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by trm0002

Rumor mill-> Bills in premilimary discussions with Shanahan

I like that because they should be looking for a GM first and Shanahan can wear both hats. Talking to someone like Cower (ya right) would be putting the cart before the horse so to speak. A new GM has to be in place before a HC is hired- it's kind of his job to hire the HC...

Link-> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4667849

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Zeus · 11-19-2009, 04:24 PM

Ok so Sportsnation just went over the Shanahan thing, and I think they made some good points on why he will NOT go to buffalo.

1. The Salary Cap has a great chance of being removed in the next 3 years. If that happens there will be a HUGE rift between the high profile teams with a ton of money, and team's which don't have the finances to back it up. I don't know anything about the owner of Buffalo, but apparently they think that Buffalo will actually be spending LESS money than they are today..... Plunging them into a horrible abyss of pathetic teams in league history.

2. He's got options. Cowboys, Bears, Browns, Raiders and Redskin's .... 5 team's which wouldn't mind putting up the hall of fame head coach where he'd have a stronger team and higher salary cap..... not to mention a bigger paycheck for himself.

3. Common. It's Buffalo.

trm0002 · 11-19-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Ok so Sportsnation just went over the Shanahan thing, and I think they made some good points on why he will NOT go to buffalo.

1. The Salary Cap has a great chance of being removed in the next 3 years. If that happens there will be a HUGE rift between the high profile teams with a ton of money, and team's which don't have the finances to back it up. I don't know anything about the owner of Buffalo, but apparently they think that Buffalo will actually be spending LESS money than they are today..... Plunging them into a horrible abyss of pathetic teams in league history.

2. He's got options. Cowboys, Bears, Browns, Raiders and Redskin's .... 5 team's which wouldn't mind putting up the hall of fame head coach where he'd have a stronger team and higher salary cap..... not to mention a bigger paycheck for himself.

3. Common. It's Buffalo.

#1- not gonna happen (for more than the one year). The owners WILL lock-out until they get a rookie salary cap- and they should. This stuff is OUT OF CONTROL. People are pissed that corporate executives in charge of thousands of people and multi-billion dollar companies get million dollar bonuses but no one gives a damn that everyone in the top ten of next year's draft will make 10x or more than the President of the United States.

#2- can't argue with that except that Buffalo may surprise a lot of people with what they're finally willing to spend. Are they ready to match a J. Jones? Probably not but it won't be as far off as you think.

#3- blow me

3 SS's · 11-19-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

It's Buffalo.

Soon to maybe be Toronto

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11-19-2009, 04:24 PM	#1062
Zeus BOOOOOM MF'R!! Drives: to Chipotle daily Join Date: May 2009 Location: Flo-Rida Posts: 3,614	Ok so Sportsnation just went over the Shanahan thing, and I think they made some good points on why he will NOT go to buffalo. 1. The Salary Cap has a great chance of being removed in the next 3 years. If that happens there will be a HUGE rift between the high profile teams with a ton of money, and team's which don't have the finances to back it up. I don't know anything about the owner of Buffalo, but apparently they think that Buffalo will actually be spending LESS money than they are today..... Plunging them into a horrible abyss of pathetic teams in league history. 2. He's got options. Cowboys, Bears, Browns, Raiders and Redskin's .... 5 team's which wouldn't mind putting up the hall of fame head coach where he'd have a stronger team and higher salary cap..... not to mention a bigger paycheck for himself. 3. Common. It's Buffalo.