"How the Auto Bailout is Punishing Ford"

a_Username · 11-10-2009, 02:58 PM

http://www.usnews.com/money/blogs/fl...punishing-ford

Interesting...

cab2g · 11-10-2009, 03:20 PM

Everything will be ok, I just hope the govt doesn't fall for the "world is collapsing" rhetoric that the banks played that got this whole bailout business started back in 2008. Sick companies die. And if you're big enough, a larger company will buy your assets and some of your employees at a bargain basement price. The world moves on. Ford will be fine.

futrocpd · 11-10-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cab2g

Everything will be ok, I just hope the govt doesn't fall for the "world is collapsing" rhetoric that the banks played that got this whole bailout business started back in 2008. Sick companies die. And if you're big enough, a larger company will buy your assets and some of your employees at a bargain basement price. The world moves on. Ford will be fine.

Kyle2k · 11-10-2009, 04:34 PM

Conversation before this article was written:

Bob: "Hey, did you see Ford post a $1B profit this quarter?"

Al: "Yeah, it is pretty exciting, I heard GM is picking up speed and heading toward profitability again too!"

Bob: "..."

Al: "What's wrong Bob?"

Bob: "Well, I have stock in tricyclic antidepressants"

Al: "Oh..."

Bob: "Hrmmm, I'm going to write this article to take as much optimism out of the whole situation and try get everyone at each others throats once again..like it should be."

Al: "You're a genious!"

Super83Z · 11-10-2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle2k

Conversation before this article was written:

Bob: "Hey, did you see Ford post a $1B profit this quarter?"

Al: "Yeah, it is pretty exciting, I heard GM is picking up speed and heading toward profitability again too!"

Bob: "..."

Al: "What's wrong Bob?"

Bob: "Well, I have stock in tricyclic antidepressants"

Al: "Oh..."

Bob: "Hrmmm, I'm going to write this article to take as much optimism out of the whole situation and try get everyone at each others throats once again..like it should be."

Al: "You're a genious!"

Truer words have never been typed. The world we live in is just full of people that want to stir shit up and there is a gaggle of people waiting to follow these morons.

chevy454 · 11-10-2009, 04:40 PM

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As the recession hit in 2008, free-market forces intensified, forcing the two domestics to hemorrhage cash. Ford wasn’t far behind, and some analysts expected Ford to line up for a bailout too. But by either luck or foresight, Ford had done some financial maneuvering in prior years that allowed it to survive the bloodletting without government aid.

FoMoCo was actually the worse of the Big3, as they started shopping their debt before GM or ChryCo, and was lucky in that they found a buyer prior to the economic collapse...but now, FoMoCo is saddled with like $38mil in debt that is coming due...

HeatherR · 11-10-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy454

FoMoCo was actually the worse of the Big3, as they started shopping their debt before GM or ChryCo, and was lucky in that they found a buyer prior to the economic collapse...but now, FoMoCo is saddled with like $38mil in debt that is coming due...

Yes, they mortgaged everything...right down to the blue oval before the credit markets tightened up, otherwise, they would have been right there for the bailout along with the other two...they lucked into that. So, they have benifited from the bailouts in that they didn't have to take one and public perception is that they were stronger, better, etc. Also, people against the bailout won't buy a car from "Government Motors" and if they want to Buy American go to Ford...MANY people feel that way :(

*Mr. Wyndham* · 11-11-2009, 07:21 PM

This article....see: worthless.

The storm is ending...and two of the three are now on steady footing to post profits, and market share. If GM and Ford continue to gain market share, then the only people who will be "punished" are the import companies that have little impact in the country anyways.

It's an opinion piece. Notice he cites ZERO facts as evidence for his theory...

EDIT: I'm sorry...he did post one fact, and that was Ford's 2.2 point increase...citing it could have been 5 or 10...here's the trouble: #1, nobody can predict that it wouldn't have all gone to Toyota, Nissan, etc....#2...30 points up for grabs, and this dippy suggests Ford could have snatched 10 of them....what about the other 20?

a_Username · 11-12-2009, 12:30 AM

I only posted this to see if everyone else thought of him as an idiot like I did lol.

11-10-2009, 04:34 PM	#4
Kyle2k LVL 50 Troll Stomper Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 3,463	Conversation before this article was written: Bob: "Hey, did you see Ford post a $1B profit this quarter?" Al: "Yeah, it is pretty exciting, I heard GM is picking up speed and heading toward profitability again too!" Bob: "..." Al: "What's wrong Bob?" Bob: "Well, I have stock in tricyclic antidepressants" Al: "Oh..." Bob: "Hrmmm, I'm going to write this article to take as much optimism out of the whole situation and try get everyone at each others throats once again..like it should be." Al: "You're a genious!" __________________

11-11-2009, 07:21 PM	#8
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	This article....see: worthless. The storm is ending...and two of the three are now on steady footing to post profits, and market share. If GM and Ford continue to gain market share, then the only people who will be "punished" are the import companies that have little impact in the country anyways. It's an opinion piece. Notice he cites ZERO facts as evidence for his theory... EDIT: I'm sorry...he did post one fact, and that was Ford's 2.2 point increase...citing it could have been 5 or 10...here's the trouble: #1, nobody can predict that it wouldn't have all gone to Toyota, Nissan, etc....#2...30 points up for grabs, and this dippy suggests Ford could have snatched 10 of them....what about the other 20? __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

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11-10-2009, 02:58 PM	#1
a_Username Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 3,890 View My Garage	"How the Auto Bailout is Punishing Ford" http://www.usnews.com/money/blogs/fl...punishing-ford Interesting...

11-10-2009, 03:20 PM	#2
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,372 View My Garage	Everything will be ok, I just hope the govt doesn't fall for the "world is collapsing" rhetoric that the banks played that got this whole bailout business started back in 2008. Sick companies die. And if you're big enough, a larger company will buy your assets and some of your employees at a bargain basement price. The world moves on. Ford will be fine. __________________

11-12-2009, 12:30 AM	#9
a_Username Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 3,890 View My Garage	I only posted this to see if everyone else thought of him as an idiot like I did lol.