NCAA Football Trash Talk Thread....

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by 1320junkie

Against whom? lol

UCF

[1320junkie]

Originally Posted by Zeus

UCF

lol

[camaro_eddie]

Originally Posted by PQ

DON'T YOU GUYS KNOW THAT MY SOONERS ARE SO HORRIBLE THAT I'M HERE TO TEAR EVERYONE ELSE DOWN?

I'M LIKE THAT TEAM WHO HAS NOTHING TO LOSE SO IT'S FOURTH DOWN TERRITOTY ON EVERY PART OF THE FEILD AND TRICK PLAYS ON OUR OWN END.

I AM HERE TO BRING CHAOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN!!!

Boomer Sooner!

[camaro_eddie]

Originally Posted by Zeus

You big 12 boy's want to make a bet with the SEC crowd?

What do you have in mind? I already have some wagers on it. If it is a Big 12 and sec match up Big 12 will win!

[Dr Jkel]

Originally Posted by PonyMan

"Bama" & "OU" have one thing in common lately; they both choke when it counts!!! Beat Florida first, then talk smack about UT's defense. That is the same shit said back in 2005, "UT has not seen running backs like Reggie Bush, and LinDale White". Always remember, "on any given Saturday", you should know that..........Bama 12, Tenn 10, (Bama had a little "struggle" didn't they! )

It not choking when you have 12 National Championships. Oh I am not talking smack, but when you have a back that has more 20 yard runs than anyone in the nation and he is just a sophomore, I'm just saying,. I believe historically the SEC has a run oriented offense and the Big 12 a passing offense. Sometimes you need ball control to win games and passing leaves too much time. Last year everyone knew that Tech would kill Ole Miss including me, until they played, they knew GT would demolish LSU until they played and they knew Alabama would kill Utah UNTIL they played. For whatever reasons that those teams lost I feel confident that Alabama will not let that happen again. Just like when Texas played Colorado, from what I saw Colorado outplayed Texas and if the Colorado QB would have played a little bit better might be a different ending. Alabama probably played it's worst game against Tenn and still won. I think that Alabama took LSU's heart late in the game, they couldn't play for laying on the field. Alabama may not win the NC this year but I think that they will beat Florida and whomever they play will know that they have been in a real football game by the time it is over.

Truly I have not seen many Texas games but know that it revolves around 2 players McCoy and Shipley. They have some other receivers and Childs is a duel threat guy but do not think that McCoy will run alot on Bama. It's going to be interesting

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by Dr Jekel

It not choking when you have 12 National Championships. Oh I am not talking smack, but when you have a back that has more 20 yard runs than anyone in the nation and he is just a sophomore, I'm just saying,. I believe historically the SEC has a run oriented offense and the Big 12 a passing offense. Sometimes you need ball control to win games and passing leaves too much time. Last year everyone knew that Tech would kill Ole Miss including me, until they played, they knew GT would demolish LSU until they played and they knew Alabama would kill Utah UNTIL they played. For whatever reasons that those teams lost I feel confident that Alabama will not let that happen again. Just like when Texas played Colorado, from what I saw Colorado outplayed Texas and if the Colorado QB would have played a little bit better might be a different ending. Alabama probably played it's worst game against Tenn and still won. I think that Alabama took LSU's heart late in the game, they couldn't play for laying on the field. Alabama may not win the NC this year but I think that they will beat Florida and whomever they play will know that they have been in a real football game by the time it is over.

Truly I have not seen many Texas games but know that it revolves around 2 players McCoy and Shipley. They have some other receivers and Childs is a duel threat guy but do not think that McCoy will run alot on Bama. It's going to be interesting

Bama lost to Utah because Saban still had Tebow's foot in his Ass.



That team spirit done broke.

[MrIcky]

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

Zues my man....

you Sir, should be on the payroll....

Or Team Teebos agent... or his Publicist...

Official Taint and Under Cheese Cleaner for Team Tebow, loofa's are a specialty!

Nobody can at this point, you go to last page-maybe flip back one and see if something makes you laugh .

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Dr Jekel

It not choking when you have 12 National Championships. Oh I am not talking smack, but when you have a back that has more 20 yard runs than anyone in the nation and he is just a sophomore, I'm just saying,. I believe historically the SEC has a run oriented offense and the Big 12 a passing offense. Sometimes you need ball control to win games and passing leaves too much time. Last year everyone knew that Tech would kill Ole Miss including me, until they played, they knew GT would demolish LSU until they played and they knew Alabama would kill Utah UNTIL they played. For whatever reasons that those teams lost I feel confident that Alabama will not let that happen again. Just like when Texas played Colorado, from what I saw Colorado outplayed Texas and if the Colorado QB would have played a little bit better might be a different ending. Alabama probably played it's worst game against Tenn and still won. I think that Alabama took LSU's heart late in the game, they couldn't play for laying on the field. Alabama may not win the NC this year but I think that they will beat Florida and whomever they play will know that they have been in a real football game by the time it is over.

Truly I have not seen many Texas games but know that it revolves around 2 players McCoy and Shipley. They have some other receivers and Childs is a duel threat guy but do not think that McCoy will run alot on Bama. It's going to be interesting

Every conference sets themselves up for a certain system. You are right. Gotta play the games against the right people and then see what happens.

What do Nick Saban, Mack Brown, Les Miles, Bob Stoops, and Urban Meyer all have in common? All have won a NC in the past 10 years. (Meyer 2) ALL HAVE DIFFERENT STYLES and so you never know what you'll get. Bradford and Tebows numbers were both down from the norm last year but both players moved the ball effectively against one another. Considering the Sooners left 14 points on the feild in the first half, and the game was still anyones to win late in the fourth, the difference was Tebow and his ability to run the ball as a QB. Point is, when you have two great teams and two different styles of play, it's gonna be a hard nosed game either way. X-Factor is that when you have so much time off between games, you don't really get what you came to know while they were all still in the swing. (OUs two turnovers inside the 5 yl are an example) You could tell OU had problems getting plays in to the offense. I have heard coach after coach after coach, and player after player after player say that this is true, especially for these young kids. This is why Bowl Season is so stupid to me. I watch the NC game and that's it unless I just happen to be where a game is on. I'll watch OU if it's just on or if it's against an interesting opponent.

BUT, 'historically' in your scenario only goes back about 10 to 12 years. The teams that make up the Big 12 used to be mostly run oriented. OU ran the wishbone for a long time. It's just been since Stoops arived that they have gone to the air. When Spurrier brought the Passing game to the SEC, he OWNED the SEC. When he left, back to boring offense. Sure, it may be considered Pro-Style offense, but the Pros can pull it off sooooo much better (because their all pros) than the kids. One conference passing 70% of the time, and the other running 70% of the time is gonna scew some numbers. Not only because of the percentages of pass to run but because of the fact that the passing conference can just pass better and the running conference can just run better. They get more reps doing it. Some great teams can do them both very well. Head to head, Bradford passes much better than Tebow, and Tebow runs MUCH better than Bradford.

Last year OU got beat by the better all around team. I don't feel so bad about it because OU gave them a run and maybe even a bit of a scare. Losing those two touchdowns inside the five both times. (Not saying it wasn't Floridas 'D' stepping up because it was) Those are usually scores though. OU held Florida to their lowest output than anyone could the whole year when everyone was saying the Defense in the Big 12 was too weak to handle them.

All around point is that every year is a different year. And different conferences have different styles of play. The SEC has been top heavy for a few years now, not unlike the NFC was for 13 years in a row. I'll be curious to see what happens after Tebow. People can say Tebow won his 1st NC on the bench behind Chris Leak but Tebow was directly responsible for at LEAST one one win and helped tremendously during the course of the season. If your gonna say Tebow has two NCs then you have to acknowledge that he was integral in theire first. (I've heard a lot of Tebow haters say that he wasn't) I know he was. I'd just like to see how Meyer does without Tebow. Let's face it, Florida may very well not have won the first NC and I KNOW they don't last year without Tebow.

And if any of you read all of this, then you are now smarter than you were 5 minutes ago.

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by PQ

Every conference sets themselves up for a certain system. You are right. Gotta play the games against the right people and then see what happens.

What do Nick Saban, Mack Brown, Les Miles, Bob Stoops, and Urban Meyer all have in common? All have won a NC in the past 10 years. (Meyer 2) ALL HAVE DIFFERENT STYLES and so you never know what you'll get. Bradford and Tebows numbers were both down from the norm last year but both players moved the ball effectively against one another. Considering the Sooners left 14 points on the feild in the first half, and the game was still anyones to win late in the fourth, the difference was Tebow and his ability to run the ball as a QB. Point is, when you have two great teams and two different styles of play, it's gonna be a hard nosed game either way. X-Factor is that when you have so much time off between games, you don't really get what you came to know while they were all still in the swing. (OUs two turnovers inside the 5 yl are an example) You could tell OU had problems getting plays in to the offense. I have heard coach after coach after coach, and player after player after player say that this is true, especially for these young kids. This is why Bowl Season is so stupid to me. I watch the NC game and that's it unless I just happen to be where a game is on. I'll watch OU if it's just on or if it's against an interesting opponent.

BUT, 'historically' in your scenario only goes back about 10 to 12 years. The teams that make up the Big 12 used to be mostly run oriented. OU ran the wishbone for a long time. It's just been since Stoops arived that they have gone to the air. When Spurrier brought the Passing game to the SEC, he OWNED the SEC. When he left, back to boring offense. Sure, it may be considered Pro-Style offense, but the Pros can pull it off sooooo much better (because their all pros) than the kids. One conference passing 70% of the time, and the other running 70% of the time is gonna scew some numbers. Not only because of the percentages of pass to run but because of the fact that the passing conference can just pass better and the running conference can just run better. They get more reps doing it. Some great teams can do them both very well. Head to head, Bradford passes much better than Tebow, and Tebow runs MUCH better than Bradford.

Last year OU got beat by the better all around team. I don't feel so bad about it because OU gave them a run and maybe even a bit of a scare. Losing those two touchdowns inside the five both times. (Not saying it wasn't Floridas 'D' stepping up because it was) Those are usually scores though. OU held Florida to their lowest output than anyone could the whole year when everyone was saying the Defense in the Big 12 was too weak to handle them.

All around point is that every year is a different year. And different conferences have different styles of play. The SEC has been top heavy for a few years now, not unlike the NFC was for 13 years in a row. I'll be curious to see what happens after Tebow. People can say Tebow won his 1st NC on the bench behind Chris Leak but Tebow was directly responsible for at LEAST one one win and helped tremendously during the course of the season. If your gonna say Tebow has two NCs then you have to acknowledge that he was integral in theire first. (I've heard a lot of Tebow haters say that he wasn't) I know he was. I'd just like to see how Meyer does without Tebow. Let's face it, Florida may very well not have won the first NC and I KNOW they don't last year without Tebow.

And if any of you read all of this, then you are now smarter than you were 5 minutes ago.

I agree 110%

[Jekyll-N-Hyde]

I dont care who we play I just want to Win out and go to the NC game.

Now if Brantley were the Qb for florida I would so want Florida........ Kid has some unfinished business with a lot of people on Texas Team.

Kind of like eating Sour grapes lol

oh well I dont care lets just get there first. we got 4 games before thats even a thought.

[PonyMan]

Originally Posted by Dr Jekel

It not choking when you have 12 National Championships.

Oh, I am sorry, let me clarify that, form 1925 - 1991, great job!!! But from 1992 - present.........chokes when it counts. Good luck with Florida, I hope Bama wins, because Texas matches up better against Bama. "I believe historically the SEC has a run oriented offense and the Big 12 a passing offense." I think Earl Campbell, Ricky Williams, Adrian Peterson, LaDainian Tomlinson, and Cedric Benson may differ with you on that one.

[nova]

Originally Posted by Dr Jekel

It not choking when you have 12 National Championships.

National Championships given retroactively 20 years after the fact (especially those by Football Thesaurus) don't count you know, regardless of what the NCAA has on their website

Hell, the 1941 NC you guys claim, IIRC we shut you guys out in Tuscaloosa, finished with a better record and won the SEC championship. How can you win the NC without winning your conference?

Not to bag on Bama, but looking at the circumstances of a lot of those NCs, its all a little ridiculous...

[chrisgalles]

Originally Posted by PQ

Every conference sets themselves up for a certain system. You are right. Gotta play the games against the right people and then see what happens.

What do Nick Saban, Mack Brown, Les Miles, Bob Stoops, and Urban Meyer all have in common? All have won a NC in the past 10 years. (Meyer 2) ALL HAVE DIFFERENT STYLES and so you never know what you'll get. Bradford and Tebows numbers were both down from the norm last year but both players moved the ball effectively against one another. Considering the Sooners left 14 points on the feild in the first half, and the game was still anyones to win late in the fourth, the difference was Tebow and his ability to run the ball as a QB. Point is, when you have two great teams and two different styles of play, it's gonna be a hard nosed game either way. X-Factor is that when you have so much time off between games, you don't really get what you came to know while they were all still in the swing. (OUs two turnovers inside the 5 yl are an example) You could tell OU had problems getting plays in to the offense. I have heard coach after coach after coach, and player after player after player say that this is true, especially for these young kids. This is why Bowl Season is so stupid to me. I watch the NC game and that's it unless I just happen to be where a game is on. I'll watch OU if it's just on or if it's against an interesting opponent.

BUT, 'historically' in your scenario only goes back about 10 to 12 years. The teams that make up the Big 12 used to be mostly run oriented. OU ran the wishbone for a long time. It's just been since Stoops arived that they have gone to the air. When Spurrier brought the Passing game to the SEC, he OWNED the SEC. When he left, back to boring offense. Sure, it may be considered Pro-Style offense, but the Pros can pull it off sooooo much better (because their all pros) than the kids. One conference passing 70% of the time, and the other running 70% of the time is gonna scew some numbers. Not only because of the percentages of pass to run but because of the fact that the passing conference can just pass better and the running conference can just run better. They get more reps doing it. Some great teams can do them both very well. Head to head, Bradford passes much better than Tebow, and Tebow runs MUCH better than Bradford.

Last year OU got beat by the better all around team. I don't feel so bad about it because OU gave them a run and maybe even a bit of a scare. Losing those two touchdowns inside the five both times. (Not saying it wasn't Floridas 'D' stepping up because it was) Those are usually scores though. OU held Florida to their lowest output than anyone could the whole year when everyone was saying the Defense in the Big 12 was too weak to handle them.

All around point is that every year is a different year. And different conferences have different styles of play. The SEC has been top heavy for a few years now, not unlike the NFC was for 13 years in a row. I'll be curious to see what happens after Tebow. People can say Tebow won his 1st NC on the bench behind Chris Leak but Tebow was directly responsible for at LEAST one one win and helped tremendously during the course of the season. If your gonna say Tebow has two NCs then you have to acknowledge that he was integral in theire first. (I've heard a lot of Tebow haters say that he wasn't) I know he was. I'd just like to see how Meyer does without Tebow. Let's face it, Florida may very well not have won the first NC and I KNOW they don't last year without Tebow.

And if any of you read all of this, then you are now smarter than you were 5 minutes ago.

WOW... I think my IQ just dropped significantly

JK Good post PQ. I am definitely anxious to see what FL does next yr wo their Savior.

[PQ]

Originally Posted by PonyMan

Oh, I am sorry, let me clarify that, form 1925 - 1991, great job!!! But from 1992 - present.........chokes when it counts. Good luck with Florida, I hope Bama wins, because Texas matches up better against Bama. "I believe historically the SEC has a run oriented offense and the Big 12 a passing offense." I think Earl Campbell, Ricky Williams, Adrian Peterson, LaDainian Tomlinson, and Cedric Benson may differ with you on that one.

Though Tomlinson is not in the Big 12, I would agree with you there.

Originally Posted by nova

National Championships given retroactively 20 years after the fact (especially those by Football Thesaurus) don't count you know, regardless of what the NCAA has on their website

Hell, the 1941 NC you guys claim, IIRC we shut you guys out in Tuscaloosa, finished with a better record and won the SEC championship. How can you win the NC without winning your conference?

Not to bag on Bama, but looking at the circumstances of a lot of those NCs, its all a little ridiculous...

If you really look at it, Teams like Standford and Priceton would have like 24 NCs each. Way back when games were won 150-0. You have to have a modern cut-off point. Since WW2, no one has more wins than Oklahoma. (had to throw that in there) But if you put OUs portfolio up someone would say their the greatest team ever. However, put it up next to the other power houses and they all kind of blend together. Everyone puts up the best records and stats for themselves. All are very impressive.

Problem is they'll claim a NC just because some publication claims it for them.

Originally Posted by chrisgalles

WOW... I think my IQ just dropped significantly

Mine too.