2023 NFL season discussion - Page 44

PoorMansCamaro · 12-26-2023, 08:33 AM

You know what else is crazy? ESPN all had the dolphins losing before the game finished. They pushed out phone notifications after the cowboys scored near the end of the 4th qtr and Colleen Wolfe was reading a script saying “it was a bad day for the dolphins”. Like, what?!?!

They even posted an afc picture showing Miami as 10-5

PoorMansCamaro · 12-26-2023, 09:08 AM

No other team has shown their qb is the most valuable than the dolphins. Without Tua, they can’t win. Without hill they can win.

102SS · 12-26-2023, 09:16 AM

Here is ESPN's take as of 7 am 12/26

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ott-josh-allen

1)Purdy

2)Dak

3)JA17

4)Lamont

5)Hill

ESPN's rational is TUA is responsible for only 48% of Fins scoring

My rational is JA17 is 75% of Bills

Wrex Ryan said the Bills would be a 5 win team without JA17

102SS · 12-26-2023, 09:22 AM

Fan Duel has Tua #3 JA17 #4

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navig...=season-awards

Another sports betting site Tua #3 JA17 #5

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/nfl/mvp-odds/

One more with #3 and #4

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odd...0Odds%20Market

PoorMansCamaro · 12-26-2023, 09:25 AM

And what are they basing their rankings from? If you have a bunch of teams with a lot of wins, how do you differentiate between them? Stats. That’s how they’ve always done it. People just don’t want to give Tua mvp, so they are trying to figure out a way to give it to someone else, based off what?

And ESPN can kick rocks lol.

PoorMansCamaro · 12-26-2023, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 102SS

Fan Duel has Tua #3 JA17 #4

https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navig...=season-awards

Another sports betting site Tua #3 JA17 #5

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/nfl/mvp-odds/

One more with #3 and #4

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odd...0Odds%20Market

Who is 1 and 2?

102SS · 12-26-2023, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

No other team has shown their qb is the most valuable than the dolphins. Without Tua, they can’t win. Without hill they can win.

I don't agree on Hill being rated higher.

At only 75 points I don't even know how he is in the conversation

102SS · 12-26-2023, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Who is 1 and 2?

CMC and Lamont

PoorMansCamaro · 12-26-2023, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 102SS

I don't agree on Hill being rated higher.

At only 75 points I don't even know how he is in the conversation

They are basing it on him breaking 2k yards. Which probably won’t happen now. Also, to make sure Tua doesn’t win it. Even if he broke 2k, he shouldn’t get mvp. oPOY, and that’s it.

102SS · 12-26-2023, 09:35 AM

I just don't think Lamonts numbers are good enough.

When he won MVP in 2019 he had 39 passing TD's and 7 rushing which are way better numbers than this year

PoorMansCamaro · 12-26-2023, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 102SS

CMC and Lamont

CMC ain’t winning anything. Not when you have another rb on his heals in Mostert, and he’s not even in the conversation.

PoorMansCamaro · 12-26-2023, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 102SS

I just don't think Lamonts numbers are good enough.

When he won MVP in 2019 he had 39 passing TD's and 7 rushing which are way better numbers than this year

Y’all can’t even spell Lamar right. So he definitely doesn’t deserve mvp lmao

If they give it to Lamar, then they might as well call the award best qb with the best record award

102SS · 12-26-2023, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

They are basing it on him breaking 2k yards. Which probably won’t happen now. Also, to make sure Tua doesn’t win it. Even if he broke 2k, he shouldn’t get mvp. oPOY, and that’s it.

Beat Lamont and then the Bills and I guarantee TUA wins

You lose either of those games kiss it good bye

102SS · 12-26-2023, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Y’all can’t even spell Lamar right. So he definitely doesn’t deserve mvp lmao

If they give it to Lamar, then they might as well call the award best qb with the best record award

Lamont from Sanford and Sons

12-26-2023, 08:33 AM	#603
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,979	You know what else is crazy? ESPN all had the dolphins losing before the game finished. They pushed out phone notifications after the cowboys scored near the end of the 4th qtr and Colleen Wolfe was reading a script saying “it was a bad day for the dolphins”. Like, what?!?! They even posted an afc picture showing Miami as 10-5 __________________

12-26-2023, 09:08 AM	#604
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,979	No other team has shown their qb is the most valuable than the dolphins. Without Tua, they can’t win. Without hill they can win. __________________

12-26-2023, 09:16 AM	#605
102SS waiting at the tree Drives: SIM 2010 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Niagara Falls Posts: 3,261	Here is ESPN's take as of 7 am 12/26 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ott-josh-allen 1)Purdy 2)Dak 3)JA17 4)Lamont 5)Hill ESPN's rational is TUA is responsible for only 48% of Fins scoring My rational is JA17 is 75% of Bills Wrex Ryan said the Bills would be a 5 win team without JA17 __________________ 2010 2SS/RS A6 ZL1 Rims 60ft 2.03 13.08 at 107.82 (4/28) 2009 Pontiac G8 3.6L the DD Last edited by 102SS; 12-26-2023 at 09:29 AM.

12-26-2023, 09:22 AM	#606
102SS waiting at the tree Drives: SIM 2010 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Niagara Falls Posts: 3,261	Fan Duel has Tua #3 JA17 #4 https://sportsbook.fanduel.com/navig...=season-awards Another sports betting site Tua #3 JA17 #5 https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/nfl/mvp-odds/ One more with #3 and #4 https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odd...0Odds%20Market __________________ 2010 2SS/RS A6 ZL1 Rims 60ft 2.03 13.08 at 107.82 (4/28) 2009 Pontiac G8 3.6L the DD

12-26-2023, 09:25 AM	#607
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 56,979	And what are they basing their rankings from? If you have a bunch of teams with a lot of wins, how do you differentiate between them? Stats. That’s how they’ve always done it. People just don’t want to give Tua mvp, so they are trying to figure out a way to give it to someone else, based off what? And ESPN can kick rocks lol. __________________

12-26-2023, 09:35 AM	#612
102SS waiting at the tree Drives: SIM 2010 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Niagara Falls Posts: 3,261	I just don't think Lamonts numbers are good enough. When he won MVP in 2019 he had 39 passing TD's and 7 rushing which are way better numbers than this year __________________ 2010 2SS/RS A6 ZL1 Rims 60ft 2.03 13.08 at 107.82 (4/28) 2009 Pontiac G8 3.6L the DD