Check your vehicles for a tracking device connected by the dealership - Page 3

13brv3 · 10-21-2023, 10:24 AM

Well you certainly made me go look, but no extra devices on mine. The Atlanta dealers were crazy with add-ons, from 3k to 5k. The NC dealer I found normally adds about $700, but since the car was in transit, they said they could just skip the add-ons. Good on them (Sir Walter, in of course Raleigh, NC).

Now where is that OnStar fuse in case they annoy me enough to disable it.

Rusty

SamSmoothCastel · 10-21-2023, 10:38 AM

was your build a special order?

if you bought it off the lot I could understand the device.

dfwcowboy · 10-21-2023, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SamSmoothCastel

was your build a special order?

if you bought it off the lot I could understand the device.

Both vehicles were special order.

dfwcowboy · 10-21-2023, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 13brv3

Well you certainly made me go look, but no extra devices on mine. The Atlanta dealers were crazy with add-ons, from 3k to 5k. The NC dealer I found normally adds about $700, but since the car was in transit, they said they could just skip the add-ons. Good on them (Sir Walter, in of course Raleigh, NC).

Now where is that OnStar fuse in case they annoy me enough to disable it.

Rusty

On one level I can kind of understand the add-ons. Vehicle inventory at dealerships dried up starting about 2 years ago. They can't sell vehicles over MSRP without add-ons and the margins for new vehicle sales aren't enough to sustain operational costs when they aren't selling at a high volume. The dealerships don't make much money off someone like me who doesn't finance or voluntarily purchase other goods and services.

That's not to say I like the practice. One of the reasons why I've been using the same dealer for over 20 years is because they didn't tack on add-ons like many dealers do for almost all of that time. Some dealers still don't and good on them, but I don't think there's many left.

SS_Don · 10-21-2023, 01:51 PM

I would report them to the authorities. I believe it is illegal in most states to install a tracking device.

CHASLT1 · 10-21-2023, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Junction65

Oh you will be getting service reminder emails from Onstar with neat info like "oil life" and "tire pressure" for sure. Part of the "owner experience"

I got a range plugged in and don't get that info on my C7.

laynlo15 · 10-21-2023, 07:15 PM

I'll check my new Tahoe I just bought.

laynlo15 · 10-21-2023, 07:22 PM

Just checked mine and nothing plugged into my OBD port. Your dealer is an asshole and I wouldn't buy anything from that dealer again. It should have been disclosed as someone else said. What a joke they are.

DevilsReject97 · 10-21-2023, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Don

I would report them to the authorities. I believe it is illegal in most states to install a tracking device.

Pretty much this....

Jofu · 10-21-2023, 07:48 PM

Are you sure it wasn’t disclosed somewhere in the paperwork? Most people only take a cursory look before signing those documents, so it’s possible it was missed

Geoff

raidator · 10-21-2023, 07:49 PM

Quick search seems to indicate that it is illegal for someone who does NOT own the vehicle to install such a device for any reason in TN and TX, other states seem to vary based on ownership... buy here/pay here places usually do this sort of thing but have to notify you ahead of time. Sounds like you should at least talk to a lawyer about it.

GHarris · 10-23-2023, 05:56 PM

Stingray Chevrolet in Plant City Florida installs trackers on vehicles at their dealership. They did not make any mention of installing this device on my car. I’m very disappointed, I had always thought they were a cut above the standard stealership but I guess they are all the same.

Ventmaster · 10-23-2023, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dfwcowboy

I was charged $798 for dealer installed "optional accessories" which evidently weren't optional. This included window tint which I specifically told them no less than 3 times not to install. I suppose there are some benefits to this device as it can also read engine data, but I have no use for it. I just have no idea if the dealership is also using the information for profit, such as sending me service reminders.

Ya think! I can't find the thread that I first read about this and have to admit that I surmised my insurance couldn't be involved or they would have pulled my policy a long time ago, but it is common - if not the majority of auto insurance companies - to pay for info regarding your driving habits. It's called telematics and allows them to monitor your position, speed (as well as the posted speed for that road), severity of braking, etc...

If you bought a vehicle that they no longer possess any portion of (it's paid off), I'd be seriously upset if they were tracking my driving habits or whereabouts. Sure, if you've got a phone you can't live without with you, then you better not be misbehaving. But I've gone years without a cell phone in the car and done just fine.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the least but where there is $ involved you can bet it's a real thing. It's always all about the money!

Ventmaster · 10-23-2023, 08:46 PM

Don't worry- LOL, I'm not dwelling on this, but I hit this old thread on the 1st search I ran and hadn't looked at it... https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...+Onstar&page=6

And yes I checked my OBD too, just to be sure. I'd spit fire if someone had access to where I was and how quick I got there! Just on general principal.

10-21-2023, 01:51 PM	#33
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10-21-2023, 07:15 PM	#35
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10-21-2023, 07:22 PM	#36
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,862	Just checked mine and nothing plugged into my OBD port. Your dealer is an asshole and I wouldn't buy anything from that dealer again. It should have been disclosed as someone else said. What a joke they are. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

10-21-2023, 10:24 AM	#29
13brv3 Drives: 2024 1SS Coupe Join Date: Sep 2023 Location: Tellico Plains, TN Posts: 19	Well you certainly made me go look, but no extra devices on mine. The Atlanta dealers were crazy with add-ons, from 3k to 5k. The NC dealer I found normally adds about $700, but since the car was in transit, they said they could just skip the add-ons. Good on them (Sir Walter, in of course Raleigh, NC). Now where is that OnStar fuse in case they annoy me enough to disable it. Rusty

10-21-2023, 10:38 AM	#30
SamSmoothCastel Drives: 67 Orange Mustang Coupe Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: CA Posts: 39	was your build a special order? if you bought it off the lot I could understand the device.

10-21-2023, 07:48 PM	#38
Jofu Drives: 2022 Wild Cherry ZL1 1LE Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 457	Are you sure it wasn’t disclosed somewhere in the paperwork? Most people only take a cursory look before signing those documents, so it’s possible it was missed Geoff

10-21-2023, 07:49 PM	#39
raidator Drives: 24 2SS CE M6 convertible Join Date: Aug 2023 Location: Space Coast FL Posts: 133 View My Garage	Quick search seems to indicate that it is illegal for someone who does NOT own the vehicle to install such a device for any reason in TN and TX, other states seem to vary based on ownership... buy here/pay here places usually do this sort of thing but have to notify you ahead of time. Sounds like you should at least talk to a lawyer about it.

10-23-2023, 05:56 PM	#40
GHarris Drives: 2023 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 20	Stingray Chevrolet in Plant City Florida installs trackers on vehicles at their dealership. They did not make any mention of installing this device on my car. I’m very disappointed, I had always thought they were a cut above the standard stealership but I guess they are all the same.

10-23-2023, 08:46 PM	#42
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 2,889	Don't worry- LOL, I'm not dwelling on this, but I hit this old thread on the 1st search I ran and hadn't looked at it... https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...+Onstar&page=6 And yes I checked my OBD too, just to be sure. I'd spit fire if someone had access to where I was and how quick I got there! Just on general principal.

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