10-15-2023, 06:15 PM | #29 |
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I know you're watching the game, but when you can, I'm curious why you took the HX out of the loop.
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10-15-2023, 06:46 PM | #30 |
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It'll work just fine. The chiller just needs the AC compressor on. I run mine in the winter, AC on and heat turned up. Cold IATs and hot air in the cabin.
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10-15-2023, 06:48 PM | #31 |
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HX works against the chiller. It will heat up the super cooled coolant from the chiller. All chiller manufacturers will recommend removing the HX unless you have a 3 way valve.
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10-15-2023, 09:02 PM | #32 |
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Yes, but he had a valve and since removed it. I'm wondering why so I dont make a mistake if I get a chiller.
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10-15-2023, 11:25 PM | #33 | |
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If I had to guess the stage 2 chiller is bigger and probably didn't leave enough room for the HX. Just a guess though.
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10-16-2023, 05:04 AM | #34 |
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what Shodown said is true. once you add the second condenser and fan there is no room for the hx. I do have to say that the stage 1 with the 4 way valve that i originally started with works just as well as the stage 2. Maybe a couple degrees colder with the stage 2. Knowing what i know now i would stay stage 1 with the 4 way valve.
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10-16-2023, 06:48 AM | #35 |
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Oh good to know. I didn't realize they used a second condenser as well. Thanks.
EDIT: I think you meant evaporator. I looked on their website and didn't see a condenser. I've seen some people cut into the crash bar and install it in the bar. Not sure if it was a killer chiller of the FI Chiller tho. Last edited by FasNuf; 10-16-2023 at 07:00 AM. |
10-16-2023, 07:04 AM | #36 |
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Yes you have to cut into the crashbar for the the 2 upgrade
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10-16-2023, 07:10 AM | #37 |
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I have a second crash bar from when I was try to put in a tow hook. Looks like a pretty involved installation for sure. Just wondering if having the 4 way valve and HX is worth the extra work just to be able to turn off the compressor. I usually don't drive the car when it's colder than 40°F outside because the tires suk.
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32c (90f) day 10c (50f) IAT2 – Fluid temp 0c (32f) (Stage 1) 38c (100f) day 4c (39f) IAT2 – Fluid temp -6c (21.2f) (Stage 2) thanks |
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10-16-2023, 11:54 AM | #40 | |
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Stage 1 with my 4 way valve and HX i was getting to 36-38 degrees ait2 on lower humidity days could get it to 35. Stage 2 i would get it to 32 degrees max. I was only seeing 25 degrees because outside temp was 44 degrees. Also the a/c charge plays a huge factor into it. I think when i was stage 1 i had a perfect a/c charge. I don’t think i got the charge perfectly for the stage 2 upgrade so it could be hurting performance. If you sign up for their email service you’ll get some big discount deals. I scored the stage 2 from there discounts for $400.
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I did sign up last night. I might do the stage 1, still trying to talk myself into the need. The car definately runs better when it's cooler so it would be nice to have that everytime I drive.
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10-16-2023, 03:28 PM | #42 |
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it also recovers faster than the HX did. I never got it retuned after the install to gain all the cooler temps. ill have it tuned when i go for e85 and heads for next summer. hopefully ill get to the 800 whp.
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